Cricket 2018/19



  • Summer schedule is out

    http://www.nzc.nz/schedules/fixtures/international/blackcaps

    Bay Oval getting plenty of love in white ball cricket.



  • @baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Summer schedule is out

    http://www.nzc.nz/schedules/fixtures/international/blackcaps

    Bay Oval getting plenty of love in white ball cricket.

    I was nto impressed.

    2 T20 at Eden park, no white ball, no red ball

    Fark all at Seddon either - a test and no ODIs.

    Amazing given the population up the north end of the country.

    Finally, what rocket scientist schedules 2 mens ODI on the 26 and 28 Jan at Bay Oval, and then puts the womens ODI on the 29th? Wouldn't the 27th make sense ... a triple header over three days on a holiday weekend?

    Not that impressed.



  • @nzzp said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket 2018/19:

    2 T20 at Eden park, no white ball, no red ball
    Amazing given the population up the north end of the country.

    Must be some messages to Auckland in that.

    Do the punters need to get out and support tests and ODIs or do they need to build a proper cricket ground?

    Or both? πŸ™‚



  • https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/105896777/auckland-cricket-fans-miss-out-again-as-eden-park-frustration-reaches-peak

    Eden Park provided a gate takings bonanza for NZC last summer, notably the crowd of 33,692 which poured in for the T20 international against Australia before the teams met again in the tri-series final. But NZC had to apply for resource consent to stage the country's first day-night test there, against England in March.

    Western Springs, here we come!



  • @nzzp

    Yeah the crowds have been good at Eden Park

    The "challenging" relationship mentioned in that article is not between NZC and Eden Park. It's "challenging" to get games in Auckland because of the councils decisions
    NZC wants more matches at Eden Park. Eden Park wants to host them. The council says no.

    The council puts the squeeze on the number of events that can be held at Eden Park and the council run RFA grounds will benefit in the long term. Seem like a conflict of interest?

    I'm all for a small Test match venue somewhere in Auckland though. That should have been sorted out years ago



  • Everything in one graphic.

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    Glad to see McLean Park is back in the schedule. They've just finished laying all the new grass; it will be interesting to see how well the new drainage works during the upcoming Mitre 10 Cup season.

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  • Well regardless of reasons it sucks we (Auckland) only get two T20s this whole summer. Was hoping to take the boy to some real cricket but shits and giggles will have to suffice.



  • @nzzp said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Summer schedule is out

    http://www.nzc.nz/schedules/fixtures/international/blackcaps

    Bay Oval getting plenty of love in white ball cricket.

    I was nto impressed.

    2 T20 at Eden park, no white ball, no red ball

    Fark all at Seddon either - a test and no ODIs.

    Amazing given the population up the north end of the country.

    Finally, what rocket scientist schedules 2 mens ODI on the 26 and 28 Jan at Bay Oval, and then puts the womens ODI on the 29th? Wouldn't the 27th make sense ... a triple header over three days on a holiday weekend?

    Not that impressed.

    Have another look at Seddon Park fixtures



  • @hooroo cheers - missed the ODI. May have to get on a roadie



  • @nzzp said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @hooroo cheers - missed the ODI. May have to get on a roadie

    Look again πŸ™‚

    2 ODI's and 2 T20's



  • @hooroo said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @nzzp said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @hooroo cheers - missed the ODI. May have to get on a roadie

    Look again πŸ™‚

    2 ODI's and 2 T20's

    yeah - sorry, while I'm keen to watch the odd bit of White Fern cricket, I'd probably only travel for the Caps. I'm a sexist pig.

    I was aware of the T20s, but we have those in Auckland too. They just aren't as interesting as a cricket watcher - the results are basically meaningless. Fun to watch, fun to attend, but just not as interesting as a good ODI or a hard fought Test.



  • @nzzp said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @hooroo said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @nzzp said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @hooroo cheers - missed the ODI. May have to get on a roadie

    Look again πŸ™‚

    2 ODI's and 2 T20's

    yeah - sorry, while I'm keen to watch the odd bit of White Fern cricket, I'd probably only travel for the Caps. I'm a sexist pig.

    I was aware of the T20s, but we have those in Auckland too. They just aren't as interesting as a cricket watcher - the results are basically meaningless. Fun to watch, fun to attend, but just not as interesting as a good ODI or a hard fought Test.

    !!!!!!!!!

    I'm sorry, I hear you. My miss! I didn't see that it wasn't all Black Caps!



  • There's a pretty good test being played at Edgbaston. India need 84 with 5 wickets, including Kohli on 43, in hand.
    Been great swing bowling from both sides and these medium scoring test matches where pitch conditions don't allow 400+ totals is nearly cricket at it's best these days



  • Cracker of a game! England win by 31 runs.



  • @donsteppa said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Cracker of a game! England win by 31 runs.

    it sure was! I caught the first hour, adn it was turned by some very good bowling from Stokes. Well played England, and a good reminder of how great Tests can be - massive pressure, every run counts, a bit in it for the bowlers.



  • @donsteppa said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Cracker of a game! England win by 31 runs.

    .. and suck it India ( our cricket over lords)



  • @virgil said in Cricket 2018/19:

    @donsteppa said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Cracker of a game! England win by 31 runs.

    .. and suck it India ( our cricket over lords)

    Well, they may suck, but they pay for our cricket infrastructure. Without them, we'd have no domestic comp to speak of, and probably no NZA tours either. Little to no money for the Women's comp, etc.

    Basically, one inbound tour every few years is the backbone of our game. Remember when we were sponsored by a Dubai property development company? They weren't selling to Kiwis, that's for sure...

    ALso, Ben Stokes. May be worth a thread on best gingas in sport - he'd be a contendor



  • Not sure if it gets much lower than this: (five runs short of a maiden century too)

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/106060786/cricket-club-promises-disciplinary-action-for-bowlers-appalling-sportsmanship



  • @barbarian @booboo @ACT-Crusader this is worse than what Gaff did on the weekend. Two year suspension. Or firing squad, i am cool with either



  • I don't know how to feel. A part of me is obviously appalled, but a small part of me is a little bit impressed.

    As an Aussie, I've been brought up with the firm belief that cricket is not about making friends. This action is so low, so dirty, so disgusting, that I can't help but tip my hat to him.

    Why is it on him to give this bloke a tonne?

    If you're going to be a cnut, go all out. And throwing the ball for six is really an amazing response to the situation.



  • @barbarian said in Cricket 2018/19:

    I don't know how to feel. A part of me is obviously appalled, but a small part of me is a little bit impressed.

    As an Aussie, I've been brought up with the firm belief that cricket is not about making friends. This action is so low, so dirty, so disgusting, that I can't help but tip my hat to him.

    Why is it on him to give this bloke a tonne?

    If you're going to be a cnut, go all out. And throwing the ball for six is really an amazing response to the situation.

    It's actually pretty alpha. A bowler in a team that failed to defend, has somehow taken the prime spot.

    Cricket is an evil game.



  • Not to mention the act of throwing the ball for 6, from the pitch, is pretty impressive. Not sure my arm would be able to accomplish that.



  • @barbarian said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Not to mention the act of throwing the ball for 6, from the pitch, is pretty impressive. Not sure my arm would be able to accomplish that.

    beta



  • I've mentioned before that I once instructed a bowler to bowl 4 wides to end a game and in doing so deny a batsman his century.

    2 Indian teams, I'm the only non Indian. Batting team needed about 15 runs for an easy win. Batsman needed 15 runs for his ton.

    All good till the non century batsman decided not to take any runs, and thus deny the other guy his ton.

    This went on for 3 or 4 overs. We just wanted to go home for a few curries.
    With 4 to win and 4 for the ton I cracked the shits and whispered for our bowler to bowl 4 wides. He nearly hit square leg ump!.

    I ostensibly did the same as ol mate the javelin thrower and have no real regrets.

    Let social justice and a cold shoulder be the punishment and deterrent not to repeat this behaviour. Just like we did before screaming SJWs.



  • @siam said in Cricket 2018/19:

    I've mentioned before that I once instructed a bowler to bowl 4 wides to end a game and in doing so deny a batsman his century.

    2 Indian teams, I'm the only non Indian. Batting team needed about 15 runs for an easy win. Batsman needed 15 runs for his ton.

    All good till the non century batsman decided not to take any runs, and thus deny the other guy his ton.

    This went on for 3 or 4 overs. We just wanted to go home for a few curries.
    With 4 to win and 4 for the ton I cracked the shits and whispered for our bowler to bowl 4 wides. He nearly hit square leg ump!.

    I ostensibly did the same as ol mate the javelin thrower and have no real regrets.

    Let social justice and a cold shoulder be the punishment and deterrent not to repeat this behaviour. Just like we did before screaming SJWs.

    cricket is a game for psychopaths



  • @barbarian said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Not to mention the act of throwing the ball for 6, from the pitch, is pretty impressive. Not sure my arm would be able to accomplish that.

    Unless of course you’re playing on a NZ ground....



  • Ben Stokes trial is on at the moment, whats coming out so far is ... interesting.

    At the moment it looks like the violence only as it was homophobes claim which was portrayed was complete and utter horse shit. Still plenty to go in it though.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45082248





  • @baron-silas-greenback Interesting line in the article - both went for the NSW job. Hmmmm.



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  • @baron-silas-greenback said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Gary Stead is the Black Caps coach.

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/106175152/steady-as-he-goes-gary-stead-gets-nod-for-black-caps-coaching-job

    The selection system, with the coach having the right of veto alongside Larsen, is expected to continue. Stead's first assignment in charge will be the tour of the United Arab Emirates against Pakistan starting in late October, with squads already chosen by Hesson and Larsen.

    Sounds like a classic NZC move.

    Two and a half months simply wouldn't be enough time for the incoming coach to meet with Larsen and select a squad.



  • @majorrage said in Cricket 2018/19:

    Ben Stokes trial is on at the moment, whats coming out so far is ... interesting.

    At the moment it looks like the violence only as it was homophobes claim which was portrayed was complete and utter horse shit. Still plenty to go in it though.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-45082248

    So, he's gotten off. In translation, this means that the jury believed his drunken view of what happened, over the view of the only sober person in the area, that being the bouncer. Oh, and all the CCTV showing what looks like a legal definition of affray ( offence consisting of the fighting of one or more persons in a public place to the terror (in French: Γ  l'effroi) of ordinary people) was obviously fake as well.

    What a bullshit verdict.

    On the flip side though, those saying he deserves more retribution before playing for England again seem a bit silly. He already missed an Ashes tour. Surely for an England cricketer, that's punishment enough.



  • I'm not sure the Ashes ban will be considered sufficient - basically he was suspended "indefinitely" pending a police investigation - but it wasn't a fixed suspension based on his behaviour. And then they brought him back anyway without the situation being resolved. They could have banned him for 6/12 months or life based purely on that indiscretion and then that would have been an end to it.

    Still unsure why he wasn't prosecuted for assault as well as affray - given affray does require some bystanders to be majorly affected and there weren't really any.

    But he will play in the 3rd test and depressingly the English fans will give him a hearty reception which will then become a thing that extends to the rest of his career - and the Barmy Army will sing songs about his heroic valour.

    Contrasts with Ryder and Bracewell and their unwritten "3 strikes and you're out". Stokes has had quite a few incidents in the past and nothing to suggest there won't be another in the future.



  • an interesting take here
    https://thesecretbarrister.com/

    still reading it, but the dude writes well



  • @majorrage said in Cricket 2018/19:

    On the flip side though, those saying he deserves more retribution before playing for England again seem a bit silly. He already missed an Ashes tour. Surely for an England cricketer, that's punishment enough.

    Playing on that tour would have been a greater punishment.

    @kiwipie said in Cricket 2018/19:

    I'm not sure the Ashes ban will be considered sufficient - basically he was suspended "indefinitely" pending a police investigation - but it wasn't a fixed suspension based on his behaviour. And then they brought him back anyway without the situation being resolved. They could have banned him for 6/12 months or life based purely on that indiscretion and then that would have been an end to it.

    I don't see how a potential life ban (or a 1 year ban for that matter) would be appropriate for this. If you dish out a life ban surely you are setting a precedent that will quickly become very uncomfortable.

    Dumb, dangerous and certainly looks ugly on camera without any context (biggest factor in this incident relative to others). But I don't see how you could give a lifetime ban to this and not a "standard" athlete drink driving conviction.

    Contrasts with Ryder and Bracewell and their unwritten "3 strikes and you're out". Stokes has had quite a few incidents in the past and nothing to suggest there won't be another in the future.

    What are you counting as strikes? At the time of the incident he was vice captain of the side and held in high standing. A couple of speeding tickets and breaking curfew in 2015? Hope the Gary Stead is running NZTA history checks on the squad his first week in the job in that case.



  • @rotated said in Cricket 2018/19:

    I don't see how a potential life ban (or a 1 year ban for that matter) would be appropriate for this. If you dish out a life ban surely you are setting a precedent that will quickly become very uncomfortable.
    Dumb, dangerous and certainly looks ugly on camera without any context (biggest factor in this incident relative to others). But I don't see how you could give a lifetime ban to this and not a "standard" athlete drink driving conviction.

    Obviously I wasn't stating he should get a life ban - obviously. I would say it goes without saying but obviously it doesn't.

    If you can get a 1 year ban for presiding over ball tampering (not actually tampering) when previous offences have been a 1 game ban or less then what's your point on precedents?



  • @nzzp said in Cricket 2018/19:

    an interesting take here
    https://thesecretbarrister.com/

    still reading it, but the dude writes well

    That was informative - read it earlier on.



  • @kiwipie important to note that Sutherland and cricket Aus came up with the 1 year ban in a virtue signalling context. I think the ICC ruled 2 match suspension which seemed pretty consistent with similar rulings.

    Just pointing out that the sandpaper incident doesn't necessarily provide a suitable precedent, as you alluded to

    Personally I think the court ruling and historic loss of income or status is enough justice. It was just a fight outside a nightclub, similar to thousands of such incidents every weekend.



  • Hahaha who is this Bumrah fluffybunny bowling for India??

    It's the most B-Grade club action i have ever seen

    Walk walk skip skip round arm medium pace around the wicket

    I'm surprised he's not bowling in black Nike runners



  • Cook 71 (57th fifty) and 147 (33rd hundred) in his final test to overtake Sanga as 5th highest run-getter in tests, and bump his average just a shade over 45. What a legend.


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