Otago v Hawke's Bay



  • Otago

    1 Aki Seuili, 2 Sam Anderson-Heather (c), 3 Hisa Sasagi, 4 Tom Rowe, 5 Josh Dickson, 6 Naulia Dawai, 7 Slade McDowall, 8 Sione Misiloi, 9 Josh Renton, 10 Josh Ioane, 11 Jona Nareki, 12 Patelesio Tomkinson, 13 Matt Faddes, 14 Mitchell Scott, 15 Vilimoni Koroi.

    Reserves:
    16 Sekonia Pole, 17 Tom Hill, 18 Donald Brighouse, 19 Joketani Koroi, 20 Sam Dickson, 21 Kurt Hammer, 22 Matt Whaanga, 23 Josh Timu

    https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/otago/changes-otago-side-take-magpies



  • The game is tomorrow evening; what's taking so long for the HBRU to post the squad list on their FB page?

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    The squad will probably be the same anyway, with only one change: Ben May in the starting line-up and Apikotoa or Braidwood taking his spot on the bench.



  • @stargazer said in Otago v Hawke's Bay:

    The game is tomorrow evening; what's taking so long for the HBRU to post the squad list on their FB page?

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    The squad will probably be the same anyway, with only one change: Ben May in the starting line-up and Apikotoa or Braidwood taking his spot on the bench.

    Mitre 10 Cup Regulation 12.1 says
    Provincial Unions are required to announce publicly 24 hours prior to the kick-ff of any Domestic Competition match the 15 players who will start that match and their respective positions together with the seven replacements/substitutes.

    So, they've got until 5.45 pm today.



  • @number-10 Has that changed? I thought it was 48 hours previously?



  • By the way, I see that the ref tomorrow is Shuhei Kubo from Japan.



  • @stargazer said in Otago v Hawke's Bay:

    The game is tomorrow evening; what's taking so long for the HBRU to post the squad list on their FB page?

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    The squad will probably be the same anyway, with only one change: Ben May in the starting line-up and Apikotoa or Braidwood taking his spot on the bench.

    Maybe they're trying to pick a back configuration that will actually have some attacking thrust. Our maul will be worked out very soon so we need to find other ways to score points.



  • @nepia Hmmm, Dunn to 12, Lowe to 13, Ili to 14 and Tofilau to the bench? Just guessing.



  • @stargazer said in Otago v Hawke's Bay:

    @nepia Hmmm, Dunn to 12, Lowe to 13, Ili to 14 and Tofilau to the bench? Just guessing.

    Why don't we have better backs? Maybe it's time to go young and bring Toala on at the back, Lowe in the midfield and the ex Sunwolf to the wing?



  • @nepia Don't think that will happen this week. The squad stayed in the S Island after last week's game; and the U19s - including Toala - played in Wellington last Sunday and returned to the Bay.



  • @stargazer said in Otago v Hawke's Bay:

    @nepia Don't think that will happen this week. The squad stayed in the S Island after last week's game; and the U19s - including Toala - played in Wellington last Sunday and returned to the Bay.

    Boo.



  • Magpies:

    1 Mark Braidwood, 2 Ash Dixon (c), 3 Ben May, 4 Michael Allardice, 5 Tom Parsons, 6 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, 7 Josh Kaifa, 8 Gareth Evans, 9 Brad Weber, 10 Tiaan Falcon, 11 Mason Emerson, 12 Pasqualle Dunn, 13 Stacey Ili, 14 Jonah Lowe, 15 JJ Taulagi

    Reserves
    16 Ben Power, 17 Joe Apikotoa, 18 Pouri Rakete-Stones, 19 Devan Flanders, 20 Will Tremain, 21 Folau Fakatava, 22 Sasa Tofilau, 23 Michael Buckley

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    So they've swapped Allardice and Parsons, as well as May and Apikotoa, and also Dunn and Tofilau. Ulufonua has been dropped or is injured, and Tremain will make his debut from the bench. I wonder who is covering lock now that Ulufonua is out of the 23? Flanders? Evans?



  • Lack of penetration against Southland the reason why Dunn is in at 12 instead of Tofilau?

    No lock replacement on the bench means a loose forward is going to have cover - perhaps Mikaele-Tu'u as the biggest? Or Evans as the most experienced? Can't help but feel the Titanic has just left Southampton bound for New York.

    Otago will be a more realistic examination than Southland who are heading towards losing all 10 games as they did last year.

    So, we will have to bring more to the game than tries off forward drives from a lineout - namely backline penetration and finishing.



  • @stargazer said in Otago v Hawke's Bay:

    Magpies:

    1 Mark Braidwood, 2 Ash Dixon (c), 3 Ben May, 4 Michael Allardice, 5 Tom Parsons, 6 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u, 7 Josh Kaifa, 8 Gareth Evans, 9 Brad Weber, 10 Tiaan Falcon, 11 Mason Emerson, 12 Pasqualle Dunn, 13 Stacey Ili, 14 Jonah Lowe, 15 JJ Taulagi

    Reserves
    16 Ben Power, 17 Joe Apikotoa, 18 Pouri Rakete-Stones, 19 Devan Flanders, 20 Will Tremain, 21 Folau Fakatava, 22 Sasa Tofilau, 23 Michael Buckley

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    So they've swapped Allardice and Parsons, as well as May and Apikotoa, and also Dunn and Tofilau. Ulufonua has been dropped or is injured, and Tremain will make his debut from the bench. I wonder who is covering lock now that Ulufonua is out of the 23? Flanders? Evans?

    The published team in this morning's HB Today has Sam Ulufonua in the reserves in place of Will Tremain, which is different to the announcement on the HBRU Facebook page. I prefer this (with Ulufonua) - it has a much better balance.



  • @number-10 Yeah, I agree with that. My guess is that either Ulufonua got injured during training and that that's the reason for Tremain's inclusion; or, he was under an injury cloud and he didn't get named, but was cleared in time for the game tonight. It's a pity we don't know which line-up is the most up-to-date one, but I guess we'll find out tonight.



  • So that's what Ben Herring looks like without a mullet



  • It really looks like Faddis' abilities have followed his hair and vanished. Can't believe he was the NPC player of the year a couple of years ago



  • I'm really liking the loose forward balance of the Magpies currently. Hopefully they all stay injury free



  • @stockcar86 Was that held up or do we have a visually challenged referee and touch judge?



  • No harm in checking is there?



  • What a strange end to the half. Not even a replay either.



  • Certainly not, it looked pretty good from where I was sitting but then again I do see things rather optimistically when it comes to my team.
    With a bit of luck some of the passing will be a bit more accurate in the second half. Or maybe that should read some of the catching be a bit better. It looked a bit like simply pass it along and hope for the best.



  • I think we were robbed there. Ref should at least have gone to the TMO to check.



  • Here comes a try!



  • About time too for the yellow card, pity it wasn't for one of their forwards.



  • Yes, just as predicted, try HB to B May. Otago 17 - 19 Hawkes Bay after 50 minutes



  • Clear forward pass, right in front of said visually challenged referee and touch judge. Luckily we scramble out of it thanks to Ash Dixon getting under the Otago player for a held up ruling in the in-goal area.



  • Referee finally sees the third knock on by Otago in that movement



  • Another clear Otago forward pass followed by a knock on missed, yet again



  • TRY HB, to Mason Emerson who showed good pace as he blitzed his way down the left hand touchline to score in the corner



  • And Brad Weber follows Emerson's lead a couple of minutes later to score in exactly the same spot Otago 20 - 31 Hawkes Bay after 66 minutes



  • Some Canterbury like finishing to run down the final three minutes going on here



  • Shame on you @Higgins comparing us to them...



  • Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. A second bonus point win!



  • I was referring to the way they do absolutely nothing other than one off running straight into the nearest defender to set up a ruck time after time to run down the clock with virtually no risk in losing possession. Canterbury are the absolute experts at it. Saw them do it for the best part of ten minutes against Wellington about ten years back



  • Full time: Otago 25 - 31 Hawke's Bay



  • @stargazer Sure beats the 60 pointer they handed to us last year. See what getting rid of Mr. Philpott does.



  • @higgins said in Otago v Hawke's Bay:

    Some Canterbury like finishing to run down the final three minutes going on here

    Fakatava bosses a team pretty well for an 18 year old. We look good at 9 for a few years.



  • @nepia said in Otago v Hawke's Bay:

    @higgins said in Otago v Hawke's Bay:

    Some Canterbury like finishing to run down the final three minutes going on here

    Fakatava bosses a team pretty well for an 18 year old. We look good at 9 for a few years.

    Yeah, I watched him three times in club rugby this year and I was a fan after seeing him the first time.



  • I wasn't sure what to expect this season with all the newbies, including so many very, very young players, but after 2 games we've already the same number of wins and competition points as last season after the full round robin. It can only get better!



  • Congratulations to Will Tremain for putting on the black and white for the first time tonight. A third generation Tremain to play for the Bay, something to be proud of!
    

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    So we have 3rd generation Tremain, Falcon and Weber. A Magpies brother in Gareth Evans and Jonah Lowe. More sons/grandsons/nephews/brothers/cousins of former Magpies? Did Pouri's dad play for the Magpies?


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