2019 club rugby



  • @Stargazer Iakapo Mapu apparently scored 3 tries for taradale.I googled him,hes a young loose forward who played for Manu Samoa last year and is highly rated by Steve Jackson their coach.



  • @kiwimatrix said in 2019 club rugby:

    @Stargazer Iakapo Mapu apparently scored 3 tries for taradale.I googled him,hes a young loose forward who played for Manu Samoa last year and is highly rated by Steve Jackson their coach.

    ?? He's not on the Taradale team list and also not among the try scorers of last Saturday's game :

    Taradale 46 (J Scanlan 3, J Baker, H Sheild, N Ramsay, M Eden, M Tufuga tries; B Truesdale 3 cons),
    Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 5 (D Scott). HT: 24-0
    


  • @Stargazer Yeah I noticed that too,but in the Monday game wrap in the hbt it mentions that and he also got the 3 points in the best and fairest in the paper. Also an article on Saturday about Manihera Eden also mentions taradale having 4 Samoan boys ready to do some damage, so perhaps they arrived after the squad lists were submitted.



  • @kiwimatrix It's odd. HBT isn't a good paper and has been wrong before, but I've seen the HBRU make mistakes, too. I guess, we'll find out in the weeks to come.



  • Results 23/3:

    Premiers Nash Cup - round 2
    MAC 17 - 25 Havelock North
    HRS 31 - 27 Clive
    NOBM 85 - 12 Central
    Taradale 50 - 5 NTOB
    Tamatea 15 - 17 Pirate

    Town/Country - Pratt Trophy - round 1
    Pirate LBD - WBD Clive
    Porangahau 19 -10 Havelock North
    Maraenui 28 - 10 MAC
    NOBM 17 -17 Otane
    WCUMR 27 - 29 NTOB
    YMP x - x Taradale
    Central WBD - LBD Tamatea



  • I heard someone mentioning that NOBM smashing everyone else with such scores is not good for HB club rugby.
    What do you guys think? You can't really say they're stacked with Magpies, so why are they so dominant?

    By the way, this was today's squad:

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  • @Stargazer I wonder if it's too early to tell, they've played two cabbage teams so far (in the context of this year), we might get a better gauge when they come up against a team with a defensive pattern.



  • What level is the Pratt Trophy? I thought there used to be a Premier Reserve grade that followed the same draw as the Premier grade. Has that fallen by the wayside and the Pratt Trophy become effectively the Premier Reserve grade and is open to all clubs?



  • @Higgins Premier Reserve grade is only played during the second part of the season. Has been that way for years.

    First half of the season:
    Premiers - Nash Cup
    Town/Country - Pratt Trophy
    Div 3 - Maury Coady Cup
    and Colts & women

    Second half of the season:
    Premiers - Maddison Trophy
    Premier Reserve - Jack Swain Cup
    Div 2 - Arthur Bowman Cup
    Div 3 - Ron Parker Memorial Cup
    and Colts & women



  • Was at the NOB Marist v Central game.

    Central actually scored first for a 7-0 lead, but at halftime it was 40-12 to NOB Marist and Central did not score in the second half.

    The forwards were pretty even in the tight, but NOB Marist were hugely superior in the loose forwards and in the backs.

    Tom Parsons played 60 minutes for Central, his brother Ben came on for the last 20.



  • Nash Cup - try & points scorers:

    Havelock North 25 (M Vuicakau 2, A Blake tries; Blake 2 pens, 2 cons)
    MAC 17 (P Smith, D Hokianga, F Selesele tries; Smith con). HT: 7-5

    Taradale 50 (J Malielegaoi 2, O Sapsford 2, J Baker, N Sanft , I Mapu, H Sheild tries; B Truesdale 3, Sapsford, Malielegaoi cons)
    Napier Technical 5 (E Martin try)
    HT: 26-5

    Hastings Rugby and Sports 31 (S Ofa 2, N Fomai, S Timu, J Rihia tries; Timu 2, I Ioane cons)
    Clive 27 (L Goodin 2, L Udy-Johns 2, J Tangaere tries; J Henry con). HT: 19-10

    Napier Old Boys Marist 85 (M Buckley 4, L Edwards 2, R Hayes 2, S Paese 2, J Winson, M Drew, P Fatialofa tries; Edwards 10 cons)
    Central 12 (J Cutbush 2 tries; B Hardwidge con). HT: 40-12

    Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 17 (H Hann 2, T Dodd-Edwards tries; T Lord con)
    Tamatea 15 (P Ariki, L McClutchie tries; H Solomon pen, con). HT: 10-all



  • This was posted on twitter; this weekend's games:

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  • Watched Tamatea v Clive.

    Clive won 50-36.

    Lincoln McClutchie was classy, I thought, in a beaten team.

    Scored two tries, both times cutting inside his marker in the Clive 22, kicked well (out of hand and for posts) and passed well, two or three times dummying and then offloading to put the man outside him into gaps. Also bossed the team well with a lot of talk.

    Last year's Hastings BHS first XV captain Liam Udy-Johns played well at flanker for Clive.



  • Watched NOBM v HRS

    36-31 to NOB. HRS out to an early 10-nil need, NOB came back to be 22-10 up, with the score 22-17 at half time.

    HRS got 2 intercept tries in the game with NOB throwing it wide from inside their 22 at almost every occasion.

    The back 3 for NOB looked good, with Liam Edwards at fullback particularly good. Ricky Hayes was very solid at 7 for NOB too.



  • @Number-10 Good to hear that about McClutchie! I still find it a bit frustrating that the Canes haven't given him the same opportunities as Flanders, Kereru-Symes, and Toala. McClutchie is showing so much promise; they should ditch JGB for next year and sign McC, but then a development contract for this season would have made so much sense.

    I can't wait to see our young Magpies in action for NZU20s next month, to see how much they've progressed since last season. You'd expect all four players to get selected. Tavita-Metcalfe may miss out; last year's injury may have huge consequences for him. He simply hasn't had enough game time since his injury. And, Fakatava; even if he was able to participate, he might not have been released by the Landers anyway, because of Aaron Smith's injury.

    By the way, did Karl Lowe play for Clive? Is he still playing well, or is age showing?



  • Just saw the Clive team list; no Karl Lowe.

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  • Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?

    No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.

    That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.



  • @Number-10 Kereru-Symes played for Hurricanes Hunters (Dev) on Friday, so that explains why he wasn't playing club rugby.

    Karl Lowe is on the Clive team list that was published earlier (see a previous post), just like one of Jonah's other brothers, Jacob. But indeed, maybe he's only available when Hastings Boys isn't playing?



  • Just a heads up,former Havelock North coach Joseph Snee who won a couple of titles down your way and has been up in Auckland for the last several years is returning back to the Bay .
    Snee won a title with Grammar Tech Up here in Auckland and has been involved with the Auckland Dev squad for the last few seasons..it will be interesting to see where he ends up in the Bay..?.
    Good to have a quality coach returning to the Bay.



  • @Number-10 said in 2019 club rugby:

    Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?

    No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.

    That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.

    According to the paper Kereru-Symes played for MAC yesterday and Tim Farrell made his first appearance for 18 months.



  • From that article:

    Magpies prop Pouri Rakete-Stones was again a powerful figure in the Pirate pack.
    
    In his first season out of secondary schools rugby tighthead prop Patrick Teddy was NOBM's player-of-the-match. ... Centre Saia Paese was again classy in the hosts backline.
    
    "We had a few guys playing out of position and didn't have the same pace as NOBM out wide as Mason [Magpies winger Emerson] was playing sevens in Japan," Rosenberg added.
    
    Magpies hooker Kianu Kereru-Symes made his debut for MAC as a loosie  ...
    
    Clive lead 43-10 and with the Storm Week in mind, all 10 teams will play three games within eight days this week, made numerous changes and leaked 26 points during the final 15 minutes. Three members of last year's Hastings Boys' High School 1st XV, tighthead prop Zac Southwick, lock Donovan Mataira and flanker Liam Udy-Johns provided plenty of grunt to the winning engine room.
    
    Magpies pivot Lincoln McClutchie was classy for Tamatea and finished with 21 points from two tries, four conversions and a penalty. His older brother, Keil McClutchie, provided quality impact off the pine at second five-eight ...
    
    Magpies prop and 2017 world champion Baby Black Tim Farrell had 20 minutes off the pine in his first outing in 18 months after an injury and scored a try for Altherm Window Systems Napier Technical.
    



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  • @kiwimatrix said in 2019 club rugby:

    @Number-10 said in 2019 club rugby:

    Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?

    No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.

    That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.

    According to the paper Kereru-Symes played for MAC yesterday and Tim Farrell made his first appearance for 18 months.

    Ah, that will explain it!



  • Tonight went and watched Hastings RS v Tech OB, Hastings RS won 36-10.

    Tech were scoreless in the second half, and hardly ever got out of their half.

    I didn't think the lights were good enough at Elwood Park.

    Jason Long played for Hastings RS but Mason Emerson didn't.

    Mark Braidwood and Trent Boswell-Wakefield both came on in the second half for Tech OB, but Tim Farrell did not play - apparently Tech just want to ease him back in.

    Apparently Clive defaulted to Havelock Nth, Clive didn't have enough front rowers.



  • @Number-10 Mason Emerson is still in Japan, I think (the HBT mentioned him playing sevens there).



  • Tonight's results (round 4):

    Clive LBD - WBD Havelock North
    HRS 36 - 10 NTOB
    Taradale 38 - 19 Tamatea
    NOBM 57 - 8 Pirate
    Central 30 - 27 MAC



  • Wednesday's points scorers:

    Hastings Rugby and Sports 36 (J Saifiti 2, J Devery 2, G Kautai, F Matamata tries; T Agnew 3 cons),
    Napier Technical 10 (J Saufoi try; L Shaw pen, con). HT: 17-10.

    Taradale 38 (N Biss 2, I Rore, C Niedmann, B Truesdale, I Mapu tries; Truesdale 3, J Malielegaoi cons),
    Tamatea 19 (J Harris, M Kean, P Smith tries; L McClutchie 2 cons). HT: 24-7.

    NOBM 57 (S Paese 3, M Lauano 2, J Winson, P Fatialofa, T Symon-Burke, R Hayes tries; J Lauano 3, L Edwards 3 cons),
    Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 8 (O Heather try; Z Clarke pen). HT: 26-3.

    Central 30 (T Fogarty, M Smith, T Janssen, B Parsons tries; K Drury-Hawkins 2 pens, 2 cons),
    MAC 27 (P Smith 3, R Paewai, K Kereru-Symes tries; Smith con). HT: 17-12.
    Havelock North beat Clive by default.



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  • Have Clive managed to find any front rowers yet or will this be another default loss by them? Also whats the story behind the Bridge Pa team in Div 3, perhaps some of the League guys fronting up for rugby until their season starts later?



  • @Higgins I assumed Clive Prems not having frontrowers for Wednesday's game had to do with the fact that it was a mid-week game. I may be wrong.

    I don't know about Bridge Pa. I think they also had their first ever 7s team end of last yea, and their own 7s tournament earlier this year. I remember reading an article in which it was mentioned, but I can't find it anymore. Saw this on their Facebook page:

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/187103964656793/permalink/2326405564059945/



  • Today's results. NOBM lost!

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  • The standings after round 5:

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  • @Stargazer shock horror..Must have been some performance from Clive.



  • @Steven-Harris You mean Taradale?



  • @Stargazer correct Taradale



  • I was at the NOBM game.

    NOB tried to play a more expansive game than the weather permitted, however saying that, there was a huge difference in performance from what I saw last week.

    The ref.

    Last week was Dan Waenga, and as an ex player he had a good feel for the game and let it flow, played reasonable advantages, and had a good relationship with the players. I'm not sure who the ref was at the Taradale game today, but he dished out 3 yellows (one initially was a red then he changed it to a yellow). There must have been 30 penalties in the game, and at least 6 for head high tackles that were incidental at best.

    Congrats on Taradale for the win - their right winger was fast and accurate, and their prop who was also throwing lineouts was effective.



  • This weekend's point scorers:

    Taradale 26 (I Mapu, A Mufana, N Senft tries; B Truesdale 3 pens, con),
    Napier Old Boys Marist 19 (S Paese, L Edwards, P Teddy tries; L Edwards 2 cons).
    HT: NOBM 12-11.

    Central 32 (T Fogarty 2, T Parsons, T Janssen, R Smith tries; B Hardwidge 2 cons, pen),
    Havelock North 31 (A Tuitavuki, T Lamborn, D Flanders, M Morrison, K Paewai tries; A Blake 3 cons).
    HT: Havelock 26-8.

    Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 53 (T Dodd-Edwards 2, S Morrison, P Rakete-Stones, M Albert, H Hann, K Miller tries; Z Clarke 6 cons, 2 pens),
    MAC 13 (Not supplied).
    HT: 20-5.

    Hastings Rugby and Sports 33 (D Tulou, M Lolofie, I Ioane, J Taafi, S Ofa tries; Ioane 4 cons),
    Tamatea 8 (D Neho try; L McClutchie pen).
    HT: 12-8.

    Clive 23 (B Pena, E Collins, L Udy-Johns, J Fuimaono tries; J Henry pen),
    Napier Technical 19 (M Fox, J Faia, penalty try tries; L Shaw con).
    HT: 5-all.





  • Yesterday's results:

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  • And the Premiers point scorers. Penikolo Latu is definitely back 😀 !

    Napier Technical 76 (P Latu 3, J Faia 2, I Martin, L Shaw, M Braidwood, M Fox, M Lealaisalanoa, T Walters, J Saufoi tries; Shaw 8 cons)
    Tamatea 22 (P Ariki 2, D Neho, P Kireka tries; L McClutchie con).
    HT: 40-12.

    Havelock North 20 (D Flanders, K Paewai, A Tuitavake tries; M Hill pen, A Blake con)
    Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 20 (G Tryon, P Rakete-Stones, M Martin tries; Z Clarke con, pen).
    HT: 12-3.

    Taradale 54 (N Ramsay 2, N Sanft, M Taipili, E Wano, J Malielegaoi, M Eden, A Tuck tries; B Truesdale 7 cons)
    Central 20 (M Jackson, T Parsons, J White tries; B Hardwidge pen, con ).
    HT: 40-15.

    Napier Old Boys Marist 42 (Not supplied)
    Clive 21 (D Penitito, L Goodin, C Kireka tries; E Collins 2, L Udy-Johns cons).
    HT: 28-7.

    Hastings Rugby and Sports 50 (N Fomai 3, T Vaiusu, S Ofa, J Saifiti, J Long, penalty try tries; T Vaiusu 3, G Kautai cons)
    MAC 18 (R Paewai, M Watson, D Menhennet tries; Watson pen).
    HT: 31-13


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