Christchurch Gunman in Mosque



  • @NTA said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    Fuck I just read Anning's press release. It is worse than the tweets.

    Yeah after I posted my thoughts on it, I actually had to go and throw up. After being in places like Rwanda, Bosnia-Herzegovina and Timor, I thought I was inured to the depths some beings can descend to, but this struck too close to home for me I guess.



  • @NTA

    Summary?



  • He condemns violence but they deserved it coz muslims .....

    Getting a lot of up votes too from the usual RWNJ’s



  • We, New Zealand, we were not a target because we are a safe harbour for those who hate.
    We were not chosen for this act of violence because we condone racism, because we are an enclave for extremism.
    We were chosen for the very fact that we are none of those things.
    Because we represent diversity, kindness, compassion. A home for those who share our values. Refuge for those who needs it. And those values will not and cannot be shaken by this attack.
    We are a proud nation of more than 200 ethnicities, 160 languages. And amongst that diversity we share common values. And the one that we place the currency on right now is our compassion and support for the community of those directly affected by this tragedy.
    And secondly, the strongest possible condemnation of the ideology of the people who did this.
    You may have chosen us – we utterly reject and condemn you

    This says everything in rebuttal of that slimebucket senator. Proud of our PM.



  • @gt12 said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    @NTA

    Summary?

    "I'm Fraser Anning and I'm a raging cuntwad who has a tiny but loud pack of rabid RWNJs more concerned with blaring about "free speech" and western values, provided all that aligns with me being - literally - a Nazi"

    Effectively, nothing new.



  • @SynicBast yeah , she really stepped up .

    If ever there was a time for Winston and his collection of drinking buddies to stfu it is now.



  • @jegga actually I heard Winnie this evening and he seemed stunned (like the rest of us) and was remarkably sane and measured



  • Terrible news.

    Thoughts go out to all involved and those living through this.

    That Aussie fluffybunny should be fired pronto.



  • @SynicBast not a moment I expect she ever thought she would have to be in, addressing our nation after such a tragedy, but to do so with empathy, respect while also giving the middle finger to people like this takes some skill and class.



  • Unfortunately, I've seen the video this afternoon. It appeared on my timeline and it played automatically. I've blocked that f*cking news channel. I wish I could un-see what I have seen. The stuff you don't even see in movies. Coward bastards, shooting people in the back or lying on the floor. These terrorists deserve to be skinned alive.

    Does anyone know a way of getting images like that out of your head? The wife suggested watching a movie; not sure that's going to help. F*ck.



  • @Stargazer f*ck, that's awful. I suggest professional help is in order.



  • @Stargazer said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    Unfortunately, I've seen the video this afternoon. It appeared on my timeline and it played automatically. I've blocked that f*cking news channel. I wish I could un-see what I have seen. The stuff you don't even see in movies. Coward bastards, shooting people in the back or lying on the floor. These terrorists deserve to be skinned alive.

    Does anyone know a way of getting images like that out of your head? The wife suggested watching a movie; not sure that's going to help. F*ck.

    Get blind drunk ? Keep posting while you’re doing it , we could all do with a laugh right now



  • @Godder I saw the first five seconds of it appear on my social media and went "report". Just don't wanna see women and children being murdered thank you very much.



  • @Stargazer said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    Does anyone know a way of getting images like that out of your head? The wife suggested watching a movie; not sure that's going to help. F*ck.

    If you have kids, just hold them. If no kids, but you have a cat or a dog, cuddle them. Basically focus as much on mundane things that make you feel good.

    That's how I've gotten through today so far. That and staying in contact with Kiwis online. This place was a lifeline of sanity. I may disagree politically with many here, buyt when it comes down to it, we're all kiwis (except NTA and he gets honorary status anyway)



  • Having 'seen the elephant' as the phrase goes having a bender with you mates in always a good one. But def short term, thats just to focus on a bit of good and fun, we traditionally used to burn a piano when a plane went in - paying it whilst on fire etc. But you gotta look beyond that, cos that is not going to help forever, do not be afraid to talk to professionals. That shit can grow in your head - focus on the awesome you have, be thankful for your life, and embrace every good social/familial/animal contact you have!





  • @Stargazer bro, take care. Different things work for different people.
    I haven’t seen the video, but when there has been difficult times I’ve gone to the gym, played some basketball, gone for a run or bike ride. Expend a bit of energy it may help you sleep.

    One day at a time bro.



  • @Stargazer what the others have said, whatever it takes to flick away from dwelling on it. Knacker yourself (and maybe the missus) before sleep. And if sleep isnt coming maybe a book or something to keep you occupied till you pass out. Or as Dr Jegga noted get hella juiced and live post some shit talk with your fern crew!
    But def talk to someone if there's even a hint of feeling the need.


  • Banned

    I've been avoiding this thing for a few hours and just got my update here.
    49!
    There are no words.



  • Been on the phone all morning trying to make sure everyone is safe. I only know one Muslim back home. Lets be honest its Christchurch after all. He is safe.

    Spoke to my mum who works in the hospital she says they will be doing what they can. But there are only twelve operating theatres in the hospital and she doubts many surgeons have any experience with gunshot wounds. But everyone is just rolling their sleeves up and doing what they can to save as many as they can. I know we think of those surgeon guys as porsche driving flash harrys. But on days like this those guys step up.

    Personally I am just angry. You want a war, go to Syria you fuckwad. There is more then enough people for you to go toe to toe with. You won't do that though because you are all chickenshit cowards.

    I hope these losers names are wiped from existence. I hope the guy who tried to take him down unarmed is hailed as a hero to all Cantabs for all time, his name should never go away.

    Finally as I have said on here before, I work with a big group of Muslim guys. They have all come to see me in the office this morning to say they will be praying for everyone in Christchurch today. Paris is with you today! All be it a small part of a shitty suburb in Paris.

    Fucked if I feel like talking about sport now.



  • @dogmeat said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    @Tim he was born in oz but brought up here. No deflecting onto oz unfortunately

    More unfortunately adern confirms 40 dead

    I’m bereft

    He left Australia in 2012 and went travelling for a while.



  • I saw the video in my twitter feed thanks to the autoplay setting on my phone and it was horrifying. There is no punishment great enough for the sack of shit and his cohorts for the amount of suffering inflicted today on innocent people. Latest toll is 49, but that could easily increase as people succumb to injuries.

    I'm really struggling with the 'how could anyone be so evil' aspect. I also hope it doesn't turn into a mental health easy out for the why. There is enough stigma against those who live with a variety of conditions and would never dream of hurting another person without every heinous act being blamed on it. Some people are easily swayed, easily turned. Or just plain fucking awful.



  • Wouldn't it be great if our media never named him and he was never referred to by name by the authorites and he just ended up being an anonymous hateful loser who was going to spend the rest of his life in jail and be forgotten ?



  • @jegga said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    Wouldn't it be great if our media never named him and he was never referred to by name by the authorites and he just ended up being an anonymous hateful loser who was going to spend the rest of his life in jail and be forgotten ?

    Media will want a name so they can find the family member, neighbour, school teacher to interview.



  • @ACT-Crusader already talk of media heading to northern NSW town which is apparently part of his history



  • Yeah saw the video at work while we were in lockdown. Didn't really want to see but was hard not to when most people around me were playing it. I run virtually past the Linwood mosque every day so it's a bit close to home for me but yeah, no words can describe this tragedy. It hurts more and more now that it has fully sunk in.



  • A givealittle page has been set up to help support the families of victims. (Official)

    https://givealittle.co.nz/cause/christchurch-shooting-victims-fund



  • I watched the entire 16 minute video.
    The guy was happily reminiscing about what he had just done as he drove away. Quite rational.
    Plain evil as far I could see.



  • @MN5 said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    @taniwharugby said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    @Kirwan I'm sure there would be the initial buzz of saving lives, but taking a life would be tough for some to deal with.

    I don't know. According to the Norwegian police who captured Anders Bering Breivik, they were seriously pissed off he didn't give them an excuse to blow his head off.

    Regardless, this is horrendous. Who would have thought this could happen in NZ?

    it has though, Aramoana.

    Hey, late to the discussion but been following the story all day. Will chip in with the odd comment as I work through this.

    But firstly I think we all realise Aramoana was something completely different to this.



  • @jegga said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    The nz police asked kiwifarms to take down the video and manifesto, they refused and now I can’t access kiwifarms anymore .

    Good



  • Those who watched the video while pretending they didn’t want to...would you have done so if it was your mum, dad, siblings etc?

    You don’t HAVE to watch the video, even if your workmates are.

    Just call a spade a spade, you watched it because you were a bit fascinated and please spare us the false horror.



  • @Billy-Tell You could have just quoted me as what you're saying is pretty much directed at me haha and yeah there's an element of truth to what you're saying. I didn't really want to watch it and I mean that as I didn't go out of my way to find it but there was also a part of me somewhere that did hence why I decided to join in and watch it as someone was showing it on their phone. Sort of like joining a bandwagon.



  • @sparky said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    My thoughts with everyone in the Christchurch CBD, especially the first-responders and the medical staff in Christchurch hospital. These will be tough days for the Garden City, but you are some of the most tough and compassionate people on Earth.

    The key thing to remember about terrorists is that they must never win.

    Just quoting this as it is so well put.

    Heart goes out to all the friends and families of the victims.

    Love conquers hate.



  • That fucking video is everywhere. I’m not even looking but some prominent NZers who I follow on social media are getting it sent to them by loads of internet trolls. I can’t fucking believe this world. The internet and social media progression is systematically destroying the planet. Massive fucking turning point for me today. People who share the video are equally as evil as the nutjob who today forever fucking changed NZ. Very angry, somewhat emotional and feeling numb.

    Twitter has to start taking some real responsibility for the shit on their platform.



  • @MajorRage said in Christchurch Gunman in Mosque:

    That fucking video is everywhere. I’m not even looking but some prominent NZers who I follow on social media are getting it sent to them by loads of internet trolls. I can’t fucking believe this world. The internet and social media progression is systematically destroying the planet. Massive fucking turning point for me today. People who share the video are equally as evil as the nutjob who today forever fucking changed NZ. Very angry, somewhat emotional and feeling numb.

    Twitter has to start taking some real responsibility for the shit on their platform.

    re Twitter . Do you mean taking down content that is promoting illegal acts or just in general.
    Because one of those helps promote the goals of the shooter and the other hinders them.



  • OK I'm confused - why did Jacinda say 4 people were arrested, 3 men and 1 woman. Then go on to say only the men were in relation to this incident? Why mention the woman?



  • Well I've woken up and it wasn't all a bad dream.

    I've long been of the opinion that if a terrorist wanted to make a massive statement they could target a church in a provincial city.

    Lots of people, crammed in close together, all facing away from the restricted (effectively) single point of entry and exit.

    Just got the denomination of the victims and motivation of the perps wrong.





  • The world is still pretty fucked today...still shake my head when I hear the number, how can this be so, here, anywhere outside of a warzone, with that many involved how did they pull it off and no one else know...

    Fucking cnuts.



  • @Baron-Silas-Greenback in general.

    You shouldn’t be able to stumble across that video. Look at Chris Gayle on twitter. Then look at replies. Some fucktard has replied twice with the video.

    Check out his profile and he’s sent it to many others.

    What repercussions can he face? Nothing, really.

    That’s just not right, and it makes me unbelievable angry.


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