Getting serious.



  • Recently I was coaxed back into playing rugby in 2012. I'm only 33 so I've got some running left and the desire is still there.

    I bought an Infiniti rower off trademe( not as good as a concept2 but not far off) and the plan is to get to a more sprite like 90kg than the current dump truck 101kg Im back at now. I have now doubt I can do it. I have adopted a new diet and having recently changed careers I eat more regularly. But it's maintaining it for close to a year that is the real challenge.

    Im going to see how quickly I can get there, safely of course. I will upload my dietary plan for those interested too.



  • Good luck to you my friend.

    I know its not sexy, but i find "binge dieting" is the best way for me to lose weight. Its pretty easy to lose 2-3kg a week by keeping my intake to under 8000kj a day, usually in 2 week bursts. Then i adjust to a maintainence diet (read: pretty much eat whet you want as long as your not going up). Ive dropped about 18kg in 18months with only about 8-10 weeks of serious dieting.



  • Yes good luck pal, what club, what grade etc ?

    Depressingly I qualify for Golden oldies next year.

    My weight hasn't been changing as dramatically as Voltrons but whatever the level you play at ( says MN5 whose rugby comeback is about 12 years in the making and counting ) I think it's important to do some weights and power type exercises. I mean obviously a ripped 95kg is better than being 90kg but not in as good a shape if that makes sense.....



  • dieting is a dirty word.

    eat clean - cut the junk, and you'll lose 2 or 3 kilos of FLUID in 2 or 3 days!! and then keep eating clean and eating less cals than you use, and the real weight loss flies in under that radar!

    Bottom line it is simple, eat anything, but make sure you use more than you bank, and you'll lose weight!



  • [quote name='MN5']Yes good luck pal, what club, what grade etc ?

    Depressingly I qualify for Golden oldies next year.

    My weight hasn't been changing as dramatically as Voltrons but whatever the level you play at ( says MN5 whose rugby comeback is about 12 years in the making and counting ) I think it's important to do some weights and power type exercises. I mean obviously a ripped 95kg is better than being 90kg but not in as good a shape if that makes sense.....[/QUOTE]

    HOBM. I thought I'd die before that happened but all the boys I grew up with are going to give it one final nudge. I'd lost touch with MSP in the last couple of years so we'll see how it goes.



  • [quote name='Voltron']Good luck to you my friend.

    I know its not sexy, but i find "binge dieting" is the best way for me to lose weight. Its pretty easy to lose 2-3kg a week by keeping my intake to under 8000kj a day, usually in 2 week bursts. Then i adjust to a maintainence diet (read: pretty much eat whet you want as long as your not going up). Ive dropped about 18kg in 18months with only about 8-10 weeks of serious dieting.[/QUOTE]

    Weight is not going to be an issue for me I reckon its the training and games that will kill me...



  • Today was to be Day One but the daughter had her birthday sleep over last night and I found myself eating leftover pizza for brekkers....

    False start start tomorrow.



  • I've dropped about 10kg in the last 12 months just watching what I eat and doing moderate exercise. I don't go to the gym, I don't have a personal trainer, I don't do group exercise. It is just me, the chinup bar, and a couple of dumbells most days, and the others it is just me and the footpath. Just read the nutritional panels on everything you eat, and count the kilojoules. Salad is actually great once you stop eating refined sugar.

    Have a day off each week to eat whatever you goddamn want. I find this is a magnificent concept to keep me mentally fresh.



  • Yeah I also suspect it should be easier now the Cup is over and you're not choppin obscene amounts of beer while watching the games ( or maybe thats just me ) weighed in at 100 again after the weekend, DOH !!

    In my case looks like a few patented walks up the hill carrying two children are in order methinks !



  • Piking out! Would be a more apt title at this stage. Been working so much lately that I often forget what day it is. Im in the middle of a 16 day(or 17 not quite sure) stretch as it is now. I am basically coming home, cooking the kids tea and colapsing on the couch. Barely have a enough time for the Fern FFS...

    Im losing weight but not the right way. Pure exhaustion and lack of eating are not the basis for healthy living. But you do what you have to eh.

    Anyway I have 3 weeks leave coming up so I'll try to get started then.



  • Also there will be the guys here who will probably be like "harden the fuck up and make time" Im not sooking out I just don't have any free time.



  • [quote name='NTA']I've dropped about 10kg in the last 12 months just watching what I eat and doing moderate exercise. I don't go to the gym, I don't have a personal trainer, I don't do group exercise. It is just me, the chinup bar, and a couple of dumbells most days, and the others it is just me and the footpath. Just read the nutritional panels on everything you eat, and count the kilojoules. Salad is actually great once you stop eating refined sugar.

    Have a day off each week to eat whatever you goddamn want. I find this is a magnificent concept to keep me mentally fresh.[/QUOTE]

    yeah that is similar to what I do, alot of stomach and stretches too around my core, press ups along with a set of dumb bells for bicep, tricep and shoulder stuff. Just targeting some of the main muscles and doing alot of core work as I have had minor niggles with my lower back



  • [quote name='Razbra']Also there will be the guys here who will probably be like "harden the fuck up and make time" Im not sooking out I just don't have any free time.[/QUOTE]

    I'm in a similar position, so know it's difficult. Try an incorporate exercise into your work day, say if you work on the 5th floor always take the stairs, park far from work so you have to walk there, and do it at a fast clip, stuff like that. All adds up while you have a compressed schedule.

    The key thing when yo are that busy is to plan your meals for lunch and afternoon snacks, also a small thing that can save you heaps.



  • [quote name='Razbra']Also there will be the guys here who will probably be like "harden the fuck up and make time" Im not sooking out I just don't have any free time.[/QUOTE]

    Nah dont beat yourself up about it mate. My training cycle has always gone in fits and starts, I think just about everyones (except for Barts and Brad Thorns) does as well. When you have kids its twice as hard to find the time and when one of the little tykes goes down sick its damn near impossible to do anything. I've started doing more regular short sharp sessions at home. For example ten minutes of doing lifts with my keg plus a few planks and chins on the back lawn is 1000 times better for me than not making it to the gym. Do what you can when you can, (if you can)...... and when you do find have more energy/free time I'm sure you will make the most of the opportunity.



  • yeah you need some form of execise that fits with your work/home life - stealing bits of time to workout as you can. Exactly the same as changing your eating habits. Bart (and Kirwan) have both posted about how they prep for kai. I seem to manage it for a couple of days then forget or get distracted and then I'm back to buying my lunch or eating a really late (and light) breakfast.

    But you don't want a feast or famine approach to working out either - you'll improve but not at the pace you'd hope for. Probably not that great for motivation either.



  • [quote name='Kirwan']I'm in a similar position, so know it's difficult. Try an incorporate exercise into your work day, say if you work on the 5th floor always take the stairs, park far from work so you have to walk there, and do it at a fast clip, stuff like that. All adds up while you have a compressed schedule.

    The key thing when yo are that busy is to plan your meals for lunch and afternoon snacks, also a small thing that can save you heaps.[/QUOTE]

    Funny how I have no time but yet Im here now....Im at work though....



  • [quote name='Razbra']Funny how I have no time but yet Im here now....Im at work though....[/QUOTE]

    Whatever you do mate dont for a second consider forsaking the Fern just for the sake of your physical wellbeing!!



  • [quote name='Red Beard']Whatever you do mate dont for a second consider forsaking the Fern just for the sake of your physical wellbeing!![/QUOTE]

    I can imagine there is a little man standing behind a curtain saying in a hushed, almost whispered voice "Shut up Rb, shut up, we could be rid of him..." and the odd poster..



  • [quote name='Razbra']I can imagine there is a little man standing behind a curtain saying in a hushed, almost whispered voice "Shut up Rb, shut up, we could be rid of him..." and the odd poster..[/QUOTE]

    Well "Fuck The Bastards" if there are any naysayers.



  • I'm only joking....I hope...I'm not that sensitive really..anyway I'm at home now. Early too. So I'm making steamed vege with rice and lean marinated pork. I'm going to try for half an hour on the rower before I go to bed.



  • What an absolute shit effort this was back in the day!!!

    This year I undertook a couple of plans. 4 week and then 12 week.

    The results were pretty good.

    The 4 week shocked the system. I got back into running and cycling. I lost 5kgs through high aerobic activity and almost no weights. no real diet as such just clean(buzzword) eating.

    The 12 week was a complete c*nt of a thing. 7 meals a day. limited dietary options, no sugar, no dairy and no carbs - fibrous carb like ok though. Lots of sups lots of stims and shit loads of weights. Cardio everyday but no running. Just enough to get a sweat going.

    I started the year at 106kg I am now 95 give or take a kg. pretty close to abs for the first time since forever. I got really strong and my poor posture sorted its self out. This was an extreme program 8 gym sessions a week. I am visibly fitter and trimmer.

    The struggle now is to not binge eat while recovering from a snapped achilles. Last night I ate an entire packet of 40% choc chip cookies. there were 20 cookies in that pack. Don't look at me - im hideous....

    Tried SBW skateboard rowing and probs need to wait a bit longer....and probs need better coordination.

    I finally got serious this year and this injury really sucked all the positivity out of the room.



  • Hang in there mate.

    One pack of cookies aren't going to wreck ya.

    Haven't had archilles injury myself so not too sure how to go about recovery but you should be able to do plenty of swimming. Plus of course work that upper body. Guns always impress



  • @JK Everyone keeps cringing when they ask "why the moonboot?"

    But Im actually fairly positive. Its Christmas, I have 4 paid weeks off and some NZ IPAs to try.

    Things could be worse.



  • I got right back up to 109kg. Poor attitude, desk based work and feeling sorry for myself.

    My wife has decided on a career change after the last couple of years getting herself into the shape of a very fit 20yo. She's doing a PT course and it suits her. We are an odd couple currently. Large, overweight husband and tiny fit as fuck wife. She has put her foot down and Im her in house experiment. 2 weeks in and I have dropped 4.5kg and again its clean eating, at regular times. Lots of cardio, a bit of yoga and low weight/high reps.

    I eat like normal person and I don't feel like killing everyone like I did on the 12 week program. There were days I'd see someone eating a pie at work and I would imagine what it would be like wear their skin as a suit......... I take a little protein with watered down apple juice post work out and that is really the extent of my sups. I have given the grog away though. Its a non entity in my life really. All the guys I enjoy drinking with have moved away or live in NZ. The missus is not a big drinker so it doesn't even occur to me, most of the time, that I could/should even be buying a beer. We don't eat out a lot anymore so there are less triggers.

    My calf muscle is almost back to normal and I am no longer limping. It is still a work in progress and I seriously miss being able to break into a jog when I need to. Its been 9 months since it happened and I was told to expect 18months of recovery. Half way and no looking too bad.



  • @raznomore can't jog yet sounds pretty bad? I was playing touch a couple of weeks out of the boot, but did have the op.



  • @Bones said in Getting serious.:

    @raznomore can't jog yet sounds pretty bad? I was playing touch a couple of weeks out of the boot, but did have the op.

    Shit bro, not 'the op' ?....

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  • @MN5 .



  • @Bones said in Getting serious.:

    @raznomore can't jog yet sounds pretty bad? I was playing touch a couple of weeks out of the boot, but did have the op.

    I struggled to put weight on it in the first month. I fucked up there. It set me back, being lazy and a wuss, about 6 months.



  • @raznomore said in Getting serious.:

    @Bones said in Getting serious.:

    @raznomore can't jog yet sounds pretty bad? I was playing touch a couple of weeks out of the boot, but did have the op.

    I struggled to put weight on it in the first month. I fucked up there. It set me back, being lazy and a wuss, about 6 months.

    There are degrees in Achilles tear injuries. A couple of mates have suffered and one was back walking in a few weeks, the other was in a boot for a couple of months and struggled badly thereafter. Nothing to do with being a wuss mate.



  • @raznomore yeah what Cato said, plus I think I'm pretty lucky, never any major broken bones or anything either. Hell I was back playing netball within 2 weeks of a hernia operation!



  • @Bones Netball? You're sure it wasn't a vasectomy?



  • @Catogrande no. Do any of your children look like me?



  • @Bones said in Getting serious.:

    @Catogrande no. Do any of your children look like me?

    There are a couple of real mingers which I disclaim. Are you offering to repay me for their schooling?



  • @Catogrande It was a vasectomy.



  • @Bones said in Getting serious.:

    @Catogrande It was a vasectomy.

    I think we call that the Italian March!



  • @Catogrande said in Getting serious.:

    @raznomore said in Getting serious.:

    @Bones said in Getting serious.:

    @raznomore can't jog yet sounds pretty bad? I was playing touch a couple of weeks out of the boot, but did have the op.

    I struggled to put weight on it in the first month. I fucked up there. It set me back, being lazy and a wuss, about 6 months.

    There are degrees in Achilles tear injuries. A couple of mates have suffered and one was back walking in a few weeks, the other was in a boot for a couple of months and struggled badly thereafter. Nothing to do with being a wuss mate.

    It was more the putting weight on it to strengthen the calf. I just didn't push my self the way I should have.



  • Finally at a stage where i can do more vigorous training and this weekend I will be getting the help of my new live in trainer. The mrs is now a PT and I've managed to convince her to take me on as her project.

    She is a nazi when it comes to her own training regime and nutrition. We may get a divorce when Im done but at least I'll look good for my Tinder photo..



  • been a long time. so ive been doing fuck all for a long time. work is a fluffybunny for time these days but in lazy too.

    my wife is a fucken monk with her nutrition and training but its her job now so she has to be.

    I lasted about 2 months under her instruction before she would no longer accept sex for payment. Sorry I meant 2 days not months.

    i take the dog(a mental 9 month old Kelpie/collie) for a run most mornings and come home after work and do chest and arms for as long as it take to get the boss off my back. after the achilles injury i got scared of leg training and have done enough to get my bad leg to the point where its almost the same size as the other one. I only really notice its small.

    anyway ive been down to as low as 92 in the last 8 months. Currently 99 and im hapoy with that. Major factor in my weight maintenance is that i gave up drinkibg for anythinv but special occasions.



  • @raznomore said in Getting serious.:

    been a long time. so ive been doing fuck all for a long time. work is a fluffybunny for time these days but in lazy too.

    my wife is a fucken monk with her nutrition and training but its her job now so she has to be.

    I lasted about 2 months under her instruction before she would no longer accept sex for payment. Sorry I meant 2 days not months.

    i take the dog(a mental 9 month old Kelpie/collie) for a run most mornings and come home after work and do chest and arms for as long as it take to get the boss off my back. after the achilles injury i got scared of leg training and have done enough to get my bad leg to the point where its alomst the same size as the other one. only really notice its small.

    anyway ive been down to as low as 92 in the last 8 months. Currently 99 and im hapoy with that. Major factor in my weight maintenance is that i gave up drinkibg for anythinv but special occasions.

    This sentence would indicate you're actually pissed but ok.



  • Any other PT's etc you can approach to get a training plan for your legs. Longer term getting more active with leg workouts would give you confidence that it's strong and further training is good rather than a risk?? If you are running on it regularly surely it's going pretty well no?


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