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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Folau Factor:
@canefan said in The Folau Factor:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Folau Factor:
@canefan said in The Folau Factor:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in The Folau Factor:
Religion makes people do any number of unnatural and abnormal things. It's not normal to suppress your normal sexual instincts and abstain until marriage (or priests and nuns forever - sometimes)
Tell that to your average page boy
Actually I'm sorry but I have to call that out. Your "average" page boy (I assume you mean altar boy)? So you reckon the average altar boy is being raped by priests? That's pretty fucked up mate.
Clearly my attempt at cheap humour triggered you. I apologise
All good. Its just that my uncle is a priest and I was an altar boy once. It's disgraceful what has occurred but those sick bastards are a tiny minority.
Haha yeah was about to say I thought I was a pretty average altar boy...
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@barbarian said in The Folau Factor:
Yes but the difference is Mundine isn't on a team of any kind, nor working for an organisation.
If that was the case I'd wager he'd be fired long ago. Probably September 12th, 2001.
Did I mention anything about him being sacked by an employer? I was talking about platforms or sponsors being pressured to stay away from him. Can't recall Suncorp having any issue with him.
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@Donsteppa said in The Folau Factor:
@Salacious-Crumb said in The Folau Factor:
And if you want to see new religions with preachers giving apocalyptic âThe End Is Nighâ sermons and demanding repentance, sacrifice and obedience, go to an environmental demonstration some day, the cult is laid out right in front of you, and donât dare commit the heresy of blasphemy by questioning their orthodoxy, they can get quite violent defending their dogma against sinners.
Organised religion might be declining, but religiosity towards a growing range of topics never seems to...
Not sure if you're being serious but you're dead right here.
Traditionalist religion, (more so Christianity) might be on the decline in the west but people are just swapping one belief for another. I genuinely believe most people need something to believe in to deal with the day to day struggle of life the real question is do these new religions give the same sense of fulfillment as the old? Are they beneficial to society or are they destructive?
The largest genocides on earth occurred under a godless religion.
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@Rembrandt said in The Folau Factor:
@Donsteppa said in The Folau Factor:
@Salacious-Crumb said in The Folau Factor:
And if you want to see new religions with preachers giving apocalyptic âThe End Is Nighâ sermons and demanding repentance, sacrifice and obedience, go to an environmental demonstration some day, the cult is laid out right in front of you, and donât dare commit the heresy of blasphemy by questioning their orthodoxy, they can get quite violent defending their dogma against sinners.
Organised religion might be declining, but religiosity towards a growing range of topics never seems to...
Not sure if you're being serious but you're dead right here.
Traditionalist religion, (more so Christianity) might be on the decline in the west but people are just swapping one belief for another. I genuinely believe most people need something to believe in to deal with the day to day struggle of life the real question is do these new religions give the same sense of fulfillment as the old? Are they beneficial to society or are they destructive?
The largest genocides on earth occurred under a godless religion.
@Rancid-Schnitzel my point above bolded
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@booboo said in The Folau Factor:
@Rembrandt said in The Folau Factor:
@Donsteppa said in The Folau Factor:
@Salacious-Crumb said in The Folau Factor:
And if you want to see new religions with preachers giving apocalyptic âThe End Is Nighâ sermons and demanding repentance, sacrifice and obedience, go to an environmental demonstration some day, the cult is laid out right in front of you, and donât dare commit the heresy of blasphemy by questioning their orthodoxy, they can get quite violent defending their dogma against sinners.
Organised religion might be declining, but religiosity towards a growing range of topics never seems to...
Not sure if you're being serious but you're dead right here.
Traditionalist religion, (more so Christianity) might be on the decline in the west but people are just swapping one belief for another. I genuinely believe most people need something to believe in to deal with the day to day struggle of life the real question is do these new religions give the same sense of fulfillment as the old? Are they beneficial to society or are they destructive?
The largest genocides on earth occurred under a godless religion.
@Rancid-Schnitzel my point above bolded
Fair enough. I was talking more about the ceremony and weird shit that goes with it.
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Meanwhile in the UK, Madam I'm Adam NOT: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/07/10/christian-doctor-lost-job-government-department-refusing-identify/
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Witch-hunting.
Billy Vunipola refuses to back down over support for Israel Folau's homophobic comments
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12250289
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12250289
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Originally put this in the netball thread... but the Ferns don't deserve the angst ... so will put here ...
Anyway ... I wonder what those trolls who taunted Maria for missing the tying goal v Aus in pool play as karma are thinking ...
Without even thinking about the irony of using a religious belief to criticise someone else's religious belief ...
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For those tragics interested in the restrictions employers can put on employees, commentary below.
I'm really not convinced the two cases are as similar as this fella makes out, but that's his opinion
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Thereâs contrasting views on the adverse action/general protections provisions even within the High Court, so Fitzsimmons article is âinterestingâ but not really that insightful on how Folauâs case will play out.
I think the new restraint of trade elements to Folauâs case will be very interesting.
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Izzy keeps rolling with the religio-crazy schtick
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@canefan said in The Folau Factor:
Izzy keeps rolling with the religio-crazy schtick
Izzy must think God is sadistic if he enjoys killing people and burning down their homes because two people gave each other consensual pleasure.
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@canefan He is obviously not a student of history or he would have realised that fires and droughts were occurring in Australia long before they legalised same sex marriage and abortion. The ARFU might well have a legal out in that contracts can only be enforced and be legally binding if both parties are of sound mind (and over a certain age). Just wondering if that is the situation in this instance after this latest sermon?
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@canefan said in The Folau Factor:
@Higgins One thing appears to be certain. He doesn't appear to have any interest in playing footy again
What. A. Dumb. fluffybunny.
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@mariner4life said in Aussie Bush Fires:
@chimoaus said in Aussie Bush Fires:
476 Homes lost in NSW and Perth has its hottest November day ever since records began in 1897.
Heat wave Tuesday this week too.
It's a message from God according to Brother Israel
Israel Folau links bushfire crisis to same-sex marriage and abortion
Sacked rugby union star Israel Folau has linked the NSW bushfire crisis and drought to legalising same-sex marriage and abortion, warning the disasters are a "little taste of God's judgment".
Speaking at his church in north-west Sydney, Folau said his remarks were a "message mainly for the people that are outside [the church], within the world". The video footage was posted online on Sunday.
"I've been looking around the events that's been happening in Australia the last couple of weeks, all the natural disasters, the bushfires, the droughts, all these things that are currently happening," Folau said.
"I'm doing this all out of love, for people to hear this message and hopefully be able to receive it with open hearts and they may come to know the truth of [God's] word."
The footage of Folau preaching to the congregation at his church was posted to the Facebook page for The Truth of Jesus Christ Church Sydney in Kenthurst as more than 50 fires burned across NSW.
Six people have died and 476 homes have been destroyed in fires throughout the state since the start of this year's bushfire season.
Folau said: "God's word says for a man and a woman to be together, one man and one woman in the covenant of marriage.
"The world, I'm speaking to Australia right now, they've come and changed this law. They've changed that law and now they've legalised same-sex marriage."
He also said of abortion, which was decriminalised in NSW in October, that "in the eyes of God it's evil, in society today it's good".
"Look how rapid, these bushfires, these droughts, all these things have come, in a short period of time. You think it's a coincidence or not? God is speaking to you guys, Australia, you need to repent.
"What you see right now in the world is only a little taste of God's judgment that's coming, it's not even a big thing."
Folau said the natural disasters were "no coincidence" and the solution was for people to "turn from their wicked ways".
Rugby Australia sacked Folau after he wrote a post on Instagram saying drunks, homosexuals, adulterers, liars, fornicators, thieves, atheists and idolators would go to hell unless they repented.
Folau is suing Rugby Australia for unlawfully terminating his contract because of his Christian beliefs. Australian rugby officials maintain that Folau breached a players' code of conduct.
In October, Folau said he knew before his social media post warning that homosexuals and other sinners would go to hell that the remarks would be "offensive" but he would "absolutely" do it again.
Sports requiring athletes to support cultural positions