Crusaders vs Sharks



  • @cgrant Things improved when they moved Bridge to fullback. I don't think Jordan had that much impact at all tbh.



  • @kev said in Crusaders vs Sharks:

    Not many times you see a Crusaders pack rag dolled like that. That’s how the Boks will play the ABs.

    Yeah - and it's a bit concerning. Boks could easily have beaten us twice last year - would have but for subbing off Cronje and Le Roux in Pretoria.

    I think Hansen needs to think a bit about where and how he adds a bit more physicality to our team.

    Kaino's departure is a big loss in this regard and I'm not sure 2019 Kieran Read is going to bring quite the same power that the 2015 version did - and those are important power positions. Nonu and Big Jules had some power in the backs that we haven't fully replaced either.





  • @Chris-B said in Crusaders vs Sharks:

    @kev said in Crusaders vs Sharks:

    Not many times you see a Crusaders pack rag dolled like that. That’s how the Boks will play the ABs.

    Yeah - and it's a bit concerning. Boks could easily have beaten us twice last year - would have but for subbing off Cronje and Le Roux in Pretoria.

    And England and Ireland. Either Hansen has been flogging them all season in trainings, or we have some real issues to worry about.

    That said, we got dominated physically in the SF against the Bokke last RWC. Our attack got us enough points that day -- but against Ireland last year we just created nothing and played terribly.

    In hindsight too, the first test against the Bok last year we absolutely dominated everywhere but on the scoreboard. So maybe we just get some faith in Steve-O.

    Winning two cups back to back has taken away the sting of possibly (now:probably) missing out on another, too. OUr record at RWC is now good, and it should take some team performance to beat us. If we get beaten by an inspired team on the day I'll be disappointed but not gutted. If we lose to grinding teams playing like the Brumbies or Ireland 2018 I'll be frustrated and probably throw my toys.



  • @nzzp don’t forget the dry powder that lies beneath NZRU headquarters.



  • @ACT-Crusader said in Crusaders vs Sharks:

    @nzzp don’t forget the dry powder that lies beneath NZRU headquarters.

    The Gunpowder Plot, 2019 edition 😃



  • @nzzp said in Crusaders vs Sharks:

    @Chris-B said in Crusaders vs Sharks:

    Winning two cups back to back has taken away the sting of possibly (now:probably) missing out on another, too. OUr record at RWC is now good, and it should take some team performance to beat us. If we get beaten by an inspired team on the day I'll be disappointed but not gutted. If we lose to grinding teams playing like the Brumbies or Ireland 2018 I'll be frustrated and probably throw my toys.

    I have a sneaking thought in the back of my mind that we should perhaps be pretty desperate to win this Cup, because who knows whether we'll have teams capable of winning in the future. If you use Nonu as being the yardstick of a "Golden Generation", this is the last hurrah. But, more particularly, four more years of Whitelock and Retallick looks some distance off and I don't see many obvious replacements coming through - other than size-wise Triple-P.



  • @Chris-B Yeah, our recent u20s teams certainly don't inspire confidence. We need another golden generation to come through like the 2011 u20s batch, but that seems a long way off at this stage.



  • @akan004 What we probably also need is better selectors/coaches for our NZ Schools, the SR U18 teams and NZU20 teams. I have the distinct feeling that talented players may be slipping through the net.



  • @Chris-B said in Crusaders vs Sharks:

    I have a sneaking thought in the back of my mind that we should perhaps be pretty desperate to win this Cup, because who knows whether we'll have teams capable of winning in the future. If you use Nonu as being the yardstick of a "Golden Generation", this is the last hurrah. But, more particularly, four more years of Whitelock and Retallick looks some distance off and I don't see many obvious replacements coming through - other than size-wise Triple-P.

    Yeah - but if you threw Piutau and Luatua into this team, they'd probably go to that next level. We have thrown up the talent, we just struggle to keep it.


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