2019 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby



  • @Higgins Google tells me Cristobal Niedmann is a Chilean, who played for Taradale, this year.

    Phil McRoberts already played for Havelock North and the Saracens, last year. I've found references to him being the Saracens' captain and playing at no. 8.

    I wonder whether the halfback is the same player as this one: https://djcoilrugby.com/2019/02/13/utah-warriors-simon-quickfall/

    Travis Janssen's name is spelled wrong. He plays for Central. Don't know anything about him.

    Watson plays for MAC. That's all I know.



  • @Stargazer Thanks, still don't mean an awful lot to me. Presumably they are only real longshots of making the NPC team if a real bad injury crisis happened to strike. Don't think the fullback played for MAC when I saw them play at Whitmore Park last time I was home. He certainly did not appear on the published team list that day anyway which had Tom Iosefo listed in the number 15 jersey.



  • Today's results:

    The Tui smashed Northland 64 to 31.
    The Saracens suffered a very close loss to Wellington Centurions: 41 - 43.
    Hawkes Bay Saracens U18 lost 10 - 20 to Poverty Bay U18.



  • Is that the As playing under the guise of the Saracens or the B Team in the Under 18 grade. I suppose it will mainly be the Napier BHS 1st XV given no HBHS players will be eligible. Although looking at the score perhaps the NBHS players were also given the week off.



  • @Higgins I haven't seen the team line-up for the U18s game. I think it's up to team coaches or managers to post team line-ups and other updates; the HBRU doesn't post them (except the Magpies and sometimes the Tui). I don't remember who the U18 coach/manager is, but I haven't seen any posts about the U18 team. I found the score on the Poverty Bay FB page.

    I posted the squad list here. Quite a few players not from Napier and Hastings 1st XV.



  • Article in the HBT about the Tui game. Early days, but it looks like 18-year-old school girl Cortez Te Pou might be a little gem with - hopefully - a big future in the game. I've heard a lot about her already, and it's all very promising.



  • Hawkes Bay U15 Co-Ed 49 - 5 Invitational VX

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  • Junior Magpies' team for today's game against Southland:

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  • Full time: Junior Magpies 44 - 0 Southland U19



  • Not rugby but a HB team playing in the final of a national competition and I might get told to put it elsewhere but Napier City Rovers lead the Chatham Cup Final 3 - 2 over Melville with time almost up. Another feather in HB's cap even if I say so myself! A good precedent setter for the more important HB v Waikato NPC game on Thursday.





  • From FB:

    Game one is all done and dusted and the boys have put Southland to the sword to run out victors 44-0.
    
    Played in wet conditions the forward pack played as a unit and dominated set piece which paved the platform for 8 unanswered tries.
    
    Liam Udy Johns bagged a double, while Patick Teddy, Damarus Hokianga, Luke Russell, Troy Mclvor, Zac Southwick and Leighton Shaw all crossed the chalk. The kickers had a off day with only 2 converted with a conversation a piece to Sam Walton Sexton and Arana Murphy.
    
    The players forward of the day was awarded to Zac Southwick while Ben Kelt used his pace to good effect to be named the players back of the day.
    
    North Harbour grabbed a one point victory over Counties in the earlier match so Wednesday's match will see us square off against the boys north of the Harbour Bridge for a spot in the Michael Jones Trophy Final.
    


  • U19s highlights

    Line-outs. Scoring off rolling mauls. Looks familiar? Do other teams do it just as often, or is this becoming a Bay thing? 🤔



  • @Higgins said in 2019 Hawke's Bay Representative Rugby:

    There are a few names that are unknown to me. In the starting lineup numbers 4, 7, 9, 14 & 15 fall into this boat. Anyone willing to help others also struggling to identify these guys become more familiar weith them would be appreciated.

    Watson and Quickfall,were club players from North Harbour who joined MAC,but then defected to Tech or Pirates, cant remember which one,halfway through the season .



  • @kiwimatrix Goodness, how could me of all people forget that. It certainly made me feel very uneasy at the time I learnt of it as I posted on here at the time. Co-incidentally the only time I got up home this season was a Tech v MAC game at Whitmore Park and neither of those two players were in the matchday 23. I should have asked my fellow Texans how they felt about the situation at the aftermatch function but I was too busy trying to organise getting a polo shirt commemorating our 2nd successive NZ Club One Day Cricket Championship and simply forgot about it. MAC probably had the last laugh as they won rather well that day, much to my disappointment!



  • Junior Magpies for their game against North Harbour today.
    Comparing the squad to previous line-ups, it seems a few backs are playing out of position.



  • From HBRU FB page:

    Thriller here in Taupo as the boys have railed back from 9 -3 down to pip North Harbour 10-9.
    
    After numerous attempts at the line from close range Patrick Teddy barged over and Arana Murphy slotted a wide conversion for the boys to hit the front 6 minutes from full time. A nervous few minutes ensued and North Harbour had a last minute penalty goal attempt to grab victory. Fortunately it sailed wide to secure a spot in the Michael Jones Trophy final.
    
    Kick off is 3.25pm on Saturday with the opponent either Tasman or Taranaki.
    

    Opponent in the Championship Final will be Taranaki that beat Tasman 47 - 27.

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    HBT article about today's game:



  • From what I hear the squad is stoked about the win. Harbour were arguably the better team and the HB crew weren’t sure they had done enough using the tailwind in the first half. They blew a couple of opportunities and should have turned around a couple of scores up. But they ground out the 2nd half and the conversion 5 mins out into the wind was great.

    I’ll try and get some gen on their impressions of the Naki boys ahead of the final.



  • Rep games 14 - 15 September 2019:

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    Tui squad for the game against North Harbour below.
    Note the name Mikaele-Tu'u in the reserves. Liana is the younger sister of Marino and Antonio. Also a loosie, who - I think - prefers the 8 jersey. I think this is her last year at school. She'll make her first-class debut tomorrow, when she comes off the bench. She absolutely dominated when she played for Hastings Girls at the Condor 7s, last year and also played for the Hawke's Bay Women's Sevens team in 2018. She's also a Hawke's Bay and NZ Netball rep. I hope we won't lose her to another province, next year, like Renee Holmes, who now plays for Waikato (going to Uni in Hamilton, I presume).

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  • U15 Co-ed team

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  • Junior Magpies team to take on Taranaki:



  • Hawke's Bay U14:

    1 Malachi Kireka-Keefe
    2 Manaia Hauiti
    3 Jack Irvine
    4 Aidan Flack
    5 Levi Robinson
    6 Sovereign Staples
    7 D'Angelo Etika
    8 Telea Faumui
    9 Joel Russell
    10 Monte Timu
    11 Taufa Kaufononga
    12 Preston Whatarau
    13 Tali Ioasa
    14 Phortre Taea-Gurnick
    15 Joshua Augustine
    16 Juan Ross
    17 Kyan Ward
    18 Ollie Barham
    19 Tama Heather
    20 Maika Graham
    21 Te Aotaki Edmonds
    22 Ngarangi Hokianga



  • HB Saracens team. Great to see Marino Mikaele-Tu'u in the squad. If he gets through this game well, he should be available for the Magpies against Taranaki. Just wondering who'll drop out of the squad if that happens. Hopefully, not Devan Flanders.

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  • Great result!!

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  • It looks like the Hawke's Bay Saracens have again lost their game in the second half. I wonder what's up with that? They had a decent looking bench. Subbed too late? Or did the Wellington team wake up late?

    FT: Hawke's Bay Saracens 31 - 40 Wellington Development (HT: 26 - 14)



  • Sir Michael Jones Trophy Final

    Full time:
    9th/10th place: Hawke's Bay 25 - 52 Taranaki

    The Bay had to go very deep in the semis in that tight game against Harbour and I think they paid for it in this game. Too many handling errors and missed tackles. Set piece not functioning well, although it improved in the 2nd half. Esp the pick and go in the second half went well and the boys showed great patience. It was unfortunate that the ref allowed Taranaki to offend so much without real consequences. Only two yellow cards; another ref might have handed out 4. It - no doubt - cost us points.

    Having said that, Taranaki was definitely the better team and fully deserved their victory.

    I'm not too sure what the biggest problem is with this team. Most of the forwards played very well for Napier 1st XV last year. Add Liam Udy-Johns, and you have a good pack, although maybe lacking a bit in size (with a few exceptions). The timing of the rolling subs was a bit off at times, and I would have started Oskar Lynch instead of Sean Baker.

    I think our greatest weakness was the lack of quality backs, apart from maybe Gideon Kautai, although I should add that they didn't get too much ball either. We certainly could have used players like Leo Thompson and Michael Naitokani (Canterbury).

    Some of Napier 1st XV's other good backs (Jayden Stock, Jack Sheridan, Henry Williams), as well as their best prop (Jayden Walker) from last year were still playing for Napier 1st XV this year, so weren't eligible. Apart from the Thompson twins and Naitokani, five-eight Keegan Christian-Goss also seems to have disappeared from the Bay (not sure where he is). Halfback Treyah Kingi left for St Kent's and has been named in the NZ Schools squad.

    Taranaki had by far the bulk of the possession and territory. Their line speed was good and our tackling was poor. I suggest extensive tackle training for all players. Ball handling was also an issue.

    I can't see many Bay players getting an invitation for the U20s camps; Patrick Teddy should be IMO, maybe Liam Udy-Johns, that's about it.

    For next year, don't expect too much improvement, as the great bulk of players from this year's Hastings 1st XV won't be eligible as they'll go back to school for another year. We'll, however, have Latrell Smiler-Ah Kiong. Hopefully, the HBRU pick up Jordan Thompson-Dunn, Jayden Walker and some of forementioned Napier backs (particularly Jack Sheridan) as well.

    Sorry for the long write-up. Just some thoughts.



  • Really mixed bag, this weekend. Our senior teams doing well, the younger teams not so much.

    HB U14 lost 24-34 to Manawatu U14.

    No communication on any of the HBRU (social) media about the U16s, so waiting for Wellington Rugby to post the scores.





  • Tui v Taranaki Whio is the double-header game this Friday. Right before the Magpies' game, with a kick-off time of 5.00pm.
    Televised as well, on Sky Sport 1.

    This is the squad. Several players will play out of position, by the looks of it.

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  • Rep games on Sat 21 September:

    • Central Secondary Schools Shield (5th-6th place play-off)
      Hawke’s Bay Saracens U18 v Horowhenua-Kapiti U18 - Tremain Field, Napier @ 1.00pm

    • Manawatū U18 Girls v Hawke’s Bay U18 Girls - CET Arena (#1), Palmerston Nrth @ 1.00pm

    • Hurricanes U16 Tournament
      Hawke's Bay U16 v Manawatū U16 - Rugby Park, Dannevirke @ 1.00pm
      Hawke's Bay U16 Dev v Poverty Bay U16 - Wairoa College @ 1.00pm

    • Hawke’s Bay U14 v Hawke’s Bay U15 Co-ed - Tremain Field, Napier @ 1.00pm

    • Hawke’s Bay Māori v Manawatū Māori - Whitmore Park, Napier @ 1.30pm



  • Mixed results from yesterday's games. I couldn't find the result of the U18 girls' game.

    Hawke's Bay Saracens U18 10 - 33 Horowhenua-Kāpiti U18
    Hawke's Bay U16 26 - 8 Manawatū U16
    Hawke's Bay U16 Dev 5 - 40 Poverty Bay U16
    Hawke's Bay U14 39 - 7 HB U15 Co-ed Boys
    Hawke's Bay Māori 67 - 0 Manawatū Māori



  • Highlights from the Tui v Taranaki Whio game:



  • Tui squad for their game against Tasman, tonight (Fri 27 Sep 2019).

    This game will be live on Sky Sport 1 from 5.00pm.

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  • Great first half for the Tui, who are leading 27 - 5 at half time!



  • Another try fest from the Tui! They've beaten Tasman 55 to 5.

    The age range in this squad is insane. The oldest is probably Emma Jensen at 41 and the reserve prop who scored a try on debut today, Lukika Fa'avae, is only 16. Under the competition rules, they must have asked and obtained dispensation from NZR to be able to select her.

    Great season thus far. Their biggest round robin game of the season comes next week, when they play Otago.





  • I am posting this here as it belongs in the Magpies Rugby Section and no where else so not posting it in the Matches Thread.

    Anyway found yet another song that expresses our feelings for our team and another one that can go alongside the ones from Hammond Gamble and Bob Houston as movitional songs for us. Also got recollections of another song from sometime in the 80s that was rather short lived so will see what I can do trolling through youtube to try and locate it. Not holding my breath on that one though.
    Almost time now so hope final pre match preparations are going well for this pivotal match

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    Hawke's Bay U16 Boys:
    Jock Kilmister, Manahi Goulton, Reece Henderson, Nicholas Ennor, Gus Brown, Gilgal Maliasia (v), Cooper Flanders (c), Rakai Henare, Phillip Panapa-King, Hoera Stephenson, Mefi Tupou, Donoval Godinet (v), Kere Penitito, Bethal Leutele-Malasia, Afa Moleli, A-one Lolofie, Avian Rihia, Fraser Taurima-Heperi, Ben White, Max Ratcliffe, Kaihau Pasikala, Bradley Campbell, Grayson Hesketh, Tomasi Naicegulevu.

    Hawke's Bay U16 Development Boys:
    Naverone Te Riini, Vikta Tevita, Josh Rautahi, Dylan Wind, Oliver Gardiner, Josh Leach, Felix Paul (c), Tino Savea (v), Zedekia Awa, Koby Deacon, Tamati Te Pou, Kaitiaki Broughton, Bryson Ioane, Alex Dickey, Troydyn Bird (v), Tyrone Chrystal, Tuli Faleiva, Ned Safiti, Kingshouse Tupouola, Jasper Wallace, Izaiah Tuliau, Tyler Teikamata, Tuawhio Porima, Jahdyn Moulder.

    Communication from the HBRU about these tournaments and teams is non-existent.

    Edit: see those Hastings Boys 1st XV players in the 'A' squad!!! That they were so good this year and still have two years to go in the 1st XV team, is awesome for HB Rugby ... if they stay in the Bay. I also think I recognise a few names from Napier 1st XV.



  • Article about the Hurricanes U16 tournament in Gisborne:

    http://gisborneherald.co.nz/localnews/4307551-135/future-stars-on-show-at-hurricanes



  • Hawke's Bay have defeated Wellington 26-17 in their round-robin match at the Hurricanes Under 16 tournament.

    The two teams will meet again in the final on Thursday.


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