Body Building Vegan style!



  • [quote name='JK']Antipodean - I use to love the weetbix too mate but made the change to oats and never looked back. Weetbix is highly processed and a bit like a low quality filler (like bog etc used by the panel beater).[/QUOTE]
    Once I finish this pack, I'll switch to oats and give them a go.

    [quote name='junior']Oats for breakfast and a couple of pieces of fruit during the day. Once a week I'll have some sushi hand rolls with brown rice for a treat. Otherwise that's pretty much it. Hopefully I'll be super-ripped soon![/QUOTE]
    Super ripped? Unless you've got a substantial starting weight, you may end up translucent!



  • Oats with protein powder for breakfast is the bømb. Favourite meal of the day.

    Surely its not necessary to cut out all carbs particularly if you're training regularly. Brown rice and yams are ok. Some types of bread arent bad either.



  • just cut the carbs at night, and CHANGE the carbs at lunchtime. Zero bread, kumara, pumpkin or rice for lunch should keep you going! And Oats for breakfst, protein powder, kiwifruit chopped into it, and 3 whipped egg whites. That is the breakfast of champions!!

    Just by doing those little things, huge changes will come about. One of Ness's chick friends, an armed offenders copper has lost ten KGs just by cutting out bread, no other changes to her diet at all. Although when you do cut something out like that with a conscious effort, you often do start taking healthier options across the board!

    Bread is the devil's food!!



  • [quote name='BartMan']just cut the carbs at night, and CHANGE the carbs at lunchtime. Zero bread, kumara, pumpkin or rice for lunch should keep you going! And Oats for breakfst, protein powder, kiwifruit chopped into it, and 3 whipped egg whites. That is the breakfast of champions!!

    Just by doing those little things, huge changes will come about. One of Ness's chick friends, an armed offenders copper has lost ten KGs just by cutting out bread, no other changes to her diet at all. Although when you do cut something out like that with a conscious effort, you often do start taking healthier options across the board!
    [B]
    Bread is the devil's food!![/[/B]QUOTE]

    All bread!!? please tell me it isn't true!! I LOVE my bread but I'd be interested to see how much difference it'd make if I cut it out.



  • Same here PKB. I need to drop as much weight as I can in 6 weeks, so I am prepared to do absolutely anything.



  • A week in to this endeavour and I've lost near an inch off the gut.



  • do it! I LOVE'd bread. I was the bloke that used to put a slice of bread [I]between [/I]two slices of bread and have a bread sandwich... I now eat it once a month if that on a treat meal day. But by christ, it's half a loaf with more peanut butter than is healthy for you!! and in a frenzy that makes the Saw movies look tame...

    So ditch all bread and that'll be a great start.

    That, and eat no carbs with dinner. That no dinner carbs is usually the start of our lean down before comps. But shed loads of veg to fill you up - we stir fry up a storm all the time, and usually do enough for lunch the next day too.

    Only carbs to take in would be your cup and a half of oats for breakfast - whole grain rolled, and 200-300g of kumara or pumpkin with lunch.

    that mid afternoon snack is important too - you will get hungry at about 3-4 pm, that is your weak point (or mine anyway). So a protein shake is the go there, or a tin of tuna lite (185g), something easy and quick

    Weight watchers jelly for dessert as a late meal, at the time when you start getting peckish.

    PM me Hooroo, what's the 6 week target, lets get you sorted and fighting fit.

    but that should sort out most people with some quick weight loss.

    and lay off the piss, more empty calories there, and also leads to that late night feed of bad stuff that adds even more calories...!!



  • anti - the fist thing that goes is a ton of water - I am surprised that we all don't squelch when we walk around! All those empty carbs make you hold onto water like an arab in a drought!



  • Even if it's just water, I'm happy to see it gone. I expect next week will be the test.



  • yeah, water - or fluid, that you don't need to carry anyway, so it is all good! And also the reason why people lose a lot of weight at the start of any diet! Clean eating!



  • [quote name='BartMan']That, and eat no carbs with dinner. That no dinner carbs is usually the start of our lean down before comps. But shed loads of veg to fill you up - we stir fry up a storm all the time, and usually do enough for lunch the next day too. [/QUOTE]

    Just wanted to add, I usually get a pan with water going, chuck in sliced up meat and any light seasoning, then the heavier veges like carrots/eggplant, then for the last minute tomatoes/bell pepper/then the greens for a quick softening, and pour the whole thing in a big bowl. It's soupish (but don't use too much water is better), but totally clean and delicious (and no oil), and very quick to do-and once it's started, you can cut the lighter veges till the meat's cooked. To make it even quicker, 2-3 minutes int he freezer takes the heat off. 5-7 minutes to cook the whole meal.



  • OOohhhhh Kea! PLease write a recipe and post in here. Sounds south east asian and yummo



  • I've ditched coffee, which included what I expect was alot of sugar (especially when I had 3 or 4 mochas at work) upped my water big time, ditching bread (since Monday; although the wife cant understand the benefits as a long time dieter...) and looking at healthier alternatives of most things.

    Getting more regular exercise too, not far from my goal weight (95kg) will see if I wanna keep going when I get there.

    I've shed 3.6kg's since Jan 01 (was 102.6)

    Have picked up a 10kg rubber medicine ball and a couple of kettle bells to go with my weights and punch ball in the garage...always good to have a plan, gotta stick to it!



  • A lot go GOOOD stuff in this thread. Its amazing what minor tweaks in our diets can do.

    Gonna do a bit of a bulk in a few months. Will probably need to bounce a few things off ya bartman. But it'll be pretty clean I reckon - lots of oats, brown rice, veges and good protein sources.



  • [quote name='Hooroo']OOohhhhh Kea! PLease write a recipe and post in here. Sounds south east asian and yummo[/QUOTE]

    OK, Hooroo, well since I'm in Taiwan it may be, but for me it's just a quick healthy meal.
    After exercise I first put the rice cooker on (with a cup of brown rice) and clean up. Then I get the veges and meat out. Everything is already in plastic containers and a little cut up making it easy to use and the fridge clean.

    Ingredients, in order of use
    -Lean beef-slices, cut into cube/decent chunks
    -Chicken, cubed
    -1 to 2 cups hot water
    -Seasoning: a little salt, basil (dry now or fresh later) or oregano, cumin, soy sauce, and mushroom oyster sauce
    -First veges: 10cm section Chinese eggplant cut into 8 pieces-length-ways, same amount carrot. Some lotus root slices.
    -Second veges: 1 clove garlic (medium diced), a sprinkle black pepper, about 1/3 a large onion (slices), 1/2 tomato (medium diced), some green and yellow bell pepper (slices).
    -Last veges: 2-3 types of green leaf veges (bokchoy, Chinese cabbage, other greens), and any 1 fresh herb you have (basil/celery leaves).

    Cooking:
    -Get pan and begin to boil beef, chicken, water, seasoning.
    -While starting to heat up, cut and chuck in the first veges.
    -Then while that's softening in the pot/pan prepare the second veges, and cook a little.
    -Finally, stir in the last veges on highish heat for 10-20 seconds.
    -Pour out into nice bowl and let sit in freezer a couple of minutes.

    Maybe done in 10 minutes if not rushing. That's a complete recipe, but I often skimp depending on what's available in the fridge. Hope that helps.



  • Bart: general views about (1) carrots (2) pumpernickle and/or rye bread?



  • [quote name='Kea']OK, Hooroo, well since I'm in Taiwan it may be, but for me it's just a quick healthy meal.
    After exercise I first put the rice cooker on (with a cup of brown rice) and clean up. Then I get the veges and meat out. Everything is already in plastic containers and a little cut up making it easy to use and the fridge clean.

    Ingredients, in order of use
    -Lean beef-slices, cut into cube/decent chunks
    -Chicken, cubed
    -1 to 2 cups hot water
    -Seasoning: a little salt, basil (dry now or fresh later) or oregano, cumin, soy sauce, and mushroom oyster sauce
    -First veges: 10cm section Chinese eggplant cut into 8 pieces-length-ways, same amount carrot. Some lotus root slices.
    -Second veges: 1 clove garlic (medium diced), a sprinkle black pepper, about 1/3 a large onion (slices), 1/2 tomato (medium diced), some green and yellow bell pepper (slices).
    -Last veges: 2-3 types of green leaf veges (bokchoy, Chinese cabbage, other greens), and any 1 fresh herb you have (basil/celery leaves).

    Cooking:
    -Get pan and begin to boil beef, chicken, water, seasoning.
    -While starting to heat up, cut and chuck in the first veges.
    -Then while that's softening in the pot/pan prepare the second veges, and cook a little.
    -Finally, stir in the last veges on highish heat for 10-20 seconds.
    -Pour out into nice bowl and let sit in freezer a couple of minutes.

    Maybe done in 10 minutes if not rushing. That's a complete recipe, but I often skimp depending on what's available in the fridge. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]

    It does help, very much so. Thanks for that.

    That will be my dinner at some stage this weekend.



  • (1) Carrots make you turn orange, and (2), dunno, not on or eating plans, so have not been on the radar with us or out nutritionist! I'll have to ask if I remember on Monday.

    (1) revisited. When we are leaning down carrots are off the menu, as they are quite carb filled (when you are meant to be eating zero carbs). But to be fair, for our first comp when we were super rookies Ness DID in fact turn orange from eating too many carrots, but she still was mean and lean and ripped to pieces! But we're not meant to eat them then, but I don't know how much effect they really have! They taste nice though...

    JK - go to [url]www.gofigure.co.nz[/url] - there's a bloke looking to bulk up, eating 8000 calories a day!! I think I am on about 1700 a day at the moment in my maintenance-build stage. He's a big bugger though (tall). Lots of good eating stuff etc on that site too.



  • Thanks Bart. I assume you'd have to eat a farking lot of carrots to get fat off them.

    I've never been a big veggie eater and still hate them but they are unfortunately essential. One thing I have to say is pretty amazing is that I havent been sick for almost a year (touch wood). Strangely enough I was often sick when I ate potato chips and ice cream for breakfast. What the fark was I thinking!



  • RS - same here - since we started this BB lark, and eating healthy and clean (mainly) I have not been sick, and I think Ness has had a fluey thing once. But other than that, any more healthy and it would be sickening!!

    and mmmm, potato chips with ice cream dip, nothing wring with that, once every 41 years!