QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs



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    Mitchell Jacobson
    Nathan Harris
    Nepo Laulala
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    Ryan Coxon
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  • Looks fairly full strength



  • @Hooroo Yeah, I think the Chiefs have a good chance of winning their QF, although the Jaguares are a different beast than early in the season and better than previous years. It won't be easy.



  • @Stargazer said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Hooroo Yeah, I think the Chiefs have a good chance of winning their QF, although the Jaguares are a different beast than early in the season and better than previous years. It won't be easy.

    Absolutely agree. Getting into top 8 was a surprise in itself so anything is just bonus time at the moment


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    @Stargazer said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Hooroo Yeah, I think the Chiefs have a good chance of winning their QF, although the Jaguares are a different beast than early in the season and better than previous years. It won't be easy.

    Chiefs will be 7 pt underdogs in Buenos Aires

    Jaguares have been the best team in Super Rugby the last 10 weeks

    9 wins & a bunch of teams dispatched with ease

    Their last meeting is meaningless due to the state of each team:

    Jaguares were 14th after that loss

    Struggling with new head coach and 1st fives

    Jaguares will be happy to play Chiefs who travel to BA on a short week

    World U20 final is this Saturday hence QF was pushed back by 24 hours

    Chiefs have their best squad healthy minus DMac

    If Jaguares play to their maximum they'll be too good for Chiefs to handle

    They were able to rest Creavy Lavanini Matera Cubelli Diaz Bonilla de la Fuente + Boffelli last week vs Sunwolves

    Buenos Aires crowd is going to be wild



  • @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Stargazer said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Hooroo Yeah, I think the Chiefs have a good chance of winning their QF, although the Jaguares are a different beast than early in the season and better than previous years. It won't be easy.

    Chiefs will be 7 pt underdogs in Buenos Aires

    Jaguares have been the best team in Super Rugby the last 10 weeks

    9 wins & a bunch of teams dispatched with ease

    Their last meeting is meaningless due to the state of each team:

    Jaguares were 14th after that loss

    Struggling with new head coach and 1st fives

    Jaguares will be happy to play Chiefs who travel to BA on a short week

    World U20 final is this Saturday hence QF was pushed back by 24 hours

    Chiefs have their best squad healthy minus DMac

    If Jaguares play to their maximum they'll be too good for Chiefs to handle

    They were able to rest Creavy Lavanini Matera Cubelli Diaz Bonilla de la Fuente + Boffelli last week vs Sunwolves

    Buenos Aires crowd is going to be wild

    I think the Chiefs are a different gravy with both Cane and Retallick healthy.

    I won't be surprised if the Chiefs win in the same way I won't be surprised if the Jaguares win.



  • @Jaguares4real will the power be back in BA by then 😉



  • @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    Buenos Aires crowd is going to be wild

    Great support fella, would be a fantastic place to go and watch. Are you based over there, or in NZ (or somewhere else?) I reckon Argentina would be a great place to go and tour following a rugby team ...



  • https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/113531971/super-rugby-chiefs-adversity-brought-team-closer-says-skipper-sam-cane

    This part can't be right? That is extraordinary if so and quite surprising. Surely the Crusaders would have done 8 straight?

    "But what do you know, here they are, an extraordinary turnaround seeing them roar into the playoffs for an eighth-straight year - extending what was already a current record-streak for any team in the competition."



  • @Hooroo I think the key point in there is 'current record-streak' - Crusaders current playoff streak is 4 (missed playoffs in 2015).



  • @KiwiMurph said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Hooroo I think the key point in there is 'current record-streak' - Crusaders current playoff streak is 4 (missed playoffs in 2015).

    OK, I didn't realise they missed out in 2015. Just kind of assumed they are always there.



  • @Hooroo Crusaders finished 7th but there were only 6 playoff spots in 2015.



  • Yeah, Crusaders finished 7th with 46 points, the Stormers won the South African conference with 45 points to finish 3rd.



  • It's going to be a shitfight, but hell yeah I'm up for that!


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    I'm UK based

    Just a fan of ARG rugby in how they don't rely on

    Mercenaries & Fake Foreigners to be good at rugby

    Their 2007 RWC side was a hell of a team got my interest in Rugby TBH


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    @Hooroo

    Those 2 players are great but Chiefs pack doesn't concern much TBH

    Jaguares play SA sides who try to blast Jaguares and have largely failed to do so this season minus 2nd half vs Stormers in Cape Town

    Sharks have an enormous pack much better than Chiefs & Jaguares handled them well

    Chiefs big threats IMO are Weber ALB and their Back 3

    Neutralise that threat & Jaguares will win by 10 points or so

    Not sure Chiefs fans appreciate the Jaguares side they're playing this weekend compared to side they played 3 months ago

    Team is night and Day in squad depth confidence and performance levels

    Jaguares gifted the match away in last 5 mins Won't happen again

    Time to end this mistake and beat Chiefs in Buenos Aires



  • @Jaguares4real

    Bigger is not better. I know the UK systems have focussed on size and the SAs are just bememoths anyway, but the beauty of rugby is that size does not equal effectiveness (even in the forwards).

    This game should be a cracker as both sides rely on forcing errors and pouncing afterwards.



  • @Jaguares4real said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    @Hooroo

    Those 2 players are great but Chiefs pack doesn't concern much TBH

    Jaguares play SA sides who try to blast Jaguares and have largely failed to do so this season minus 2nd half vs Stormers in Cape Town

    Sharks have an enormous pack much better than Chiefs & Jaguares handled them well

    Chiefs big threats IMO are Weber ALB and their Back 3

    Neutralise that threat & Jaguares will win by 10 points or so

    Not sure Chiefs fans appreciate the Jaguares side they're playing this weekend compared to side they played 3 months ago

    Team is night and Day in squad depth confidence and performance levels

    Jaguares gifted the match away in last 5 mins Won't happen again

    Time to end this mistake and beat Chiefs in Buenos Aires

    Buenos Aires does a MUCH better steak than the Tron. Go the Jaguares!!



  • I'm very surprised by the chiefs optimistism, I think it's mostly inherent NZ bias. The jags are on a real roll, and are at home. The chiefs, even after their opposed training run last game, have a bloody long way to go to get to Argentina. I think there will be comfortable wins for all the home teams



  • @Machpants said in QF 3: Jaguares v Chiefs:

    I'm very surprised by the chiefs optimistism, I think it's mostly inherent NZ bias. The jags are on a real roll, and are at home. The chiefs, even after their opposed training run last game, have a bloody long way to go to get to Argentina. I think there will be comfortable wins for all the home teams

    I think it is fair to have optimism that the Chiefs MAY overcome those facts. I don't think anyone here is declaring them favourites by any stretch.
    What we do know is that for the first week of playoffs the travel factor is not so big. Chiefs have ensured travel at NZ night time so body clocks aren't too disrupted and the lineup will be fairly stable (hopefully) so the training can focus on sharpness.
    I'm simply looking forward to the game as I am expecting a good one.

    Jags are pretty much an international side so our bunch of hicks should be the underdogs.


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