Jonah the tv series



  • Anyone know anything about this ?
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10269664/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_1
    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8797992/?ref_=nm_flmg_dr_2

    This guy is playing the great man

    Mosese Veaila
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  • @jegga I hope it's not as shit as the Stephen Donald movie.



  • @MN5 Beaver's movie had a happy ending. Jonah's, not so.



  • Just clean up this footage, and play it over and over and over for 90~100 mins. Good enough for me!



  • The Jonah doco was mint. Came out on DVD which betrays its age! Some awesome footage of his play and training on it.





  • @Machpants

    Yep. I also loved the try he against Scotland ('96?)* - running down the touchline when he had about 3 inches of room to move in. Astonishing balance and pace.

    *Think it was the same Test Cullen scored 4 in and Gregor Townsend ran thru the AB midfield at will. Amazing game.



  • @Machpants

    That one try against England (bulldozing over Mike Catt) still blows my mind.
    I can't off-hand think of anyone in world rugby, past or present who could've scored there.

    The pass goes behind him. He has to stop, turn and go back for it.
    He has a defender right there as he gathers the ball. Swats him down.
    Get's ankle-tapped by the next defender and barely stays upright as he is confronted by the fullback. Barrels over him like a truck over a pebble.

    No right to score that try, and yet he did. Legend.



  • @Billy-Webb said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Machpants

    That one try against England (bulldozing over Mike Catt) still blows my mind.
    I can't off-hand think of anyone in world rugby, past or present who could've scored there.

    The pass goes behind him. He has to stop, turn and go back for it.
    He has a defender right there as he gathers the ball. Swats him down.
    Get's ankle-tapped by the next defender and barely stays upright as he is confronted by the fullback. Barrels over him like a truck over a pebble.

    No right to score that try, and yet he did. Legend.

    Jonah did shit that i am sure defy a large number of physical laws. Huge, great acceleration, swerve at pace, hands like dinner plates, he had it all. What a phenom.

    And the only truly global superstar the game has ever had.



  • The only athlete I have ever seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Machpants

    Yep. I also loved the try he against Scotland ('96?)* - running down the touchline when he had about 3 inches of room to move in. Astonishing balance and pace.

    *Think it was the same Test Cullen scored 4 in and Gregor Townsend ran thru the AB midfield at will. Amazing game.

    heh I remember listening to that, didn't have a sky decoder but I as it was uhf I could tune in the audio with static...a year later and we'd got a pc with a tuner card and I worked out how to decode sky through that. Tech piracy the great economic leveller



  • @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    The only athlete I have never seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.

    Great call! Dupree was also a freak.
    Plenty of guys that size, but a miniscule number who also have that kind of speed, and most importantly, balance.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    The only athlete I have never seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.

    Great call! Dupree was also a freak.
    Plenty of guys that size, but a miniscule number who also have that kind of speed, and most importantly, balance.

    Probably the closest guy I can think of, it can also be noted he did his stuff against guys who on the whole were bigger and stronger.



  • @Victor-Meldrew said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Machpants

    Yep. I also loved the try he against Scotland ('96?)* - running down the touchline when he had about 3 inches of room to move in. Astonishing balance and pace.

    *Think it was the same Test Cullen scored 4 in and Gregor Townsend ran thru the AB midfield at will. Amazing game.

    Scots actually played fucken well that day it's just a shame for them that Jonah and Cully were otherwordly cos man for man many of them outplayed their AB opposites.



  • @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    Scots actually played fucken well that day

    Sure did. They put 34 or 38 points on the Awe Blacks - that takes some doing.

    My abiding memory is the TV commentary with the great Bill McLaren, Laurie Mains doing analysis and Muzzer Mexted doing sideline. Nothing I've heard since comes close.



  • @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    The only athlete I have never seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.

    Great call! Dupree was also a freak.
    Plenty of guys that size, but a miniscule number who also have that kind of speed, and most importantly, balance.

    Probably the closest guy I can think of, it can also be noted he did his stuff against guys who on the whole were bigger and stronger.

    Freak. How the F did the Wallabies let him get away?

    Think it should also be noted that Jonah was barely doing weights until later in his career and I think after the kidney thing first struck.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    The only athlete I have never seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.

    Great call! Dupree was also a freak.
    Plenty of guys that size, but a miniscule number who also have that kind of speed, and most importantly, balance.

    Probably the closest guy I can think of, it can also be noted he did his stuff against guys who on the whole were bigger and stronger.

    Freak. How the F did the Wallabies let him get away?

    Think it should also be noted that Jonah was barely doing weights until later in his career and I think after the kidney thing first struck.

    Not sure about that, he was definitely doing something to get that much of an advantage over his contemporaries.



  • @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    The only athlete I have never seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.

    Great call! Dupree was also a freak.
    Plenty of guys that size, but a miniscule number who also have that kind of speed, and most importantly, balance.

    Probably the closest guy I can think of, it can also be noted he did his stuff against guys who on the whole were bigger and stronger.

    Freak. How the F did the Wallabies let him get away?

    Think it should also be noted that Jonah was barely doing weights until later in his career and I think after the kidney thing first struck.

    Not sure about that, he was definitely doing something to get that much of an advantage over his contemporaries.

    He was just a physical freak. Remember him saying that he didn't like doing weights because he felt it slowed him down. That was after the 1995 RWC. That was actually a common belief shared by many until quite recently.



  • Any word on how much Nadene charged for the rights?



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    The only athlete I have never seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.

    Great call! Dupree was also a freak.
    Plenty of guys that size, but a miniscule number who also have that kind of speed, and most importantly, balance.

    Probably the closest guy I can think of, it can also be noted he did his stuff against guys who on the whole were bigger and stronger.

    Freak. How the F did the Wallabies let him get away?

    Think it should also be noted that Jonah was barely doing weights until later in his career and I think after the kidney thing first struck.

    Not sure about that, he was definitely doing something to get that much of an advantage over his contemporaries.

    He was just a physical freak. Remember him saying that he didn't like doing weights because he felt it slowed him down. That was after the 1995 RWC. That was actually a common belief shared by many until quite recently.

    Again, not sure about that. If you look at his frame even at a young age he looks pretty familiar with the weight room



  • @MN5 just missing the top end pace but a freak none the less. Also, and not everyone will agree, Nadolo has been playing against players conditioned to handle bigger, faster wingers. Lomu, at least for the first half of career had it almost all his own way.



  • @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    The only athlete I have never seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.

    Great call! Dupree was also a freak.
    Plenty of guys that size, but a miniscule number who also have that kind of speed, and most importantly, balance.

    Probably the closest guy I can think of, it can also be noted he did his stuff against guys who on the whole were bigger and stronger.

    Freak. How the F did the Wallabies let him get away?

    Think it should also be noted that Jonah was barely doing weights until later in his career and I think after the kidney thing first struck.

    Not sure about that, he was definitely doing something to get that much of an advantage over his contemporaries.

    He was just a physical freak. Remember him saying that he didn't like doing weights because he felt it slowed him down. That was after the 1995 RWC. That was actually a common belief shared by many until quite recently.

    Again, not sure about that. If you look at his frame even at a young age he looks pretty familiar with the weight room

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    The only athlete I have never seen that comes close, and its only archive footage I have seen, is Marcus Dupree. And as huge as he looked he was smaller than Lomu.

    Great call! Dupree was also a freak.
    Plenty of guys that size, but a miniscule number who also have that kind of speed, and most importantly, balance.

    Probably the closest guy I can think of, it can also be noted he did his stuff against guys who on the whole were bigger and stronger.

    Freak. How the F did the Wallabies let him get away?

    Think it should also be noted that Jonah was barely doing weights until later in his career and I think after the kidney thing first struck.

    Not sure about that, he was definitely doing something to get that much of an advantage over his contemporaries.

    He was just a physical freak. Remember him saying that he didn't like doing weights because he felt it slowed him down. That was after the 1995 RWC. That was actually a common belief shared by many until quite recently.

    Again, not sure about that. If you look at his frame even at a young age he looks pretty familiar with the weight room

    I'm just quoting what he said. Probably have the magazine lying around my parents place somewhere.

    Some guys are just physical phenoms who don't need to get near weights to get jacked.

    Check out this dude.
    https://images.app.goo.gl/ahwNpzHLkq3J8N9XA
    Bo Jackson. Hated weights. Felt they made him too bulky. His only weights training consisted of putting a 20kg weight on his forehead to strengthen his neck.



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel Agree, some guys are just built (piston wristed gibbons). I know a bunch of guys like that, not just Polys too - I know these three Scandi origin brothers who all just naturally looked like Thor (I repeat, piston wristed gibbons).



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    I'm just quoting what he said.

    He said he did weight training his entire life. He was a fan of bodybuilding growing up.

    He did make comments about gaining muscle mass too easily so he limited his weight training sessions. He did not stop lifting though

    It wasn't the weight training makes you slow argument. It was the he didn't want to be any heavier argument.



  • @Duluth said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    I'm just quoting what he said.

    He said he did weight training his entire life. He was a fan of bodybuilding growing up.

    He did make comments about gaining muscle mass too easily so he limited his weight training sessions. He did not stop lifting though

    It wasn't the weight training makes you slow argument. It was the he didn't want to be any heavier argument.

    The whole point is that it makes you heavier therefore slower, not that lifting itself makes you slower. That should be pretty self-explanatory. He might have lifted as a younger teen, but he definitely said he preferred not to lift weights around 95/96.

    He certainly changed that POV not long after and became something of a gym junky.



  • @Duluth said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    I'm just quoting what he said.

    He said he did weight training his entire life. He was a fan of bodybuilding growing up.

    He did make comments about gaining muscle mass too easily so he limited his weight training sessions. He did not stop lifting though

    It wasn't the weight training makes you slow argument. It was the he didn't want to be any heavier argument.

    Yeah that’s what I remember from his biography.



  • Best athlete I've seen play Rugby.



  • @raznomore said in Jonah the tv series:

    @MN5 just missing the top end pace but a freak none the less. Also, and not everyone will agree, Nadolo has been playing against players conditioned to handle bigger, faster wingers. Lomu, at least for the first half of career had it almost all his own way.

    Lomu? Or Nadolo?



  • @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Duluth said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in Jonah the tv series:

    I'm just quoting what he said.

    He said he did weight training his entire life. He was a fan of bodybuilding growing up.

    He did make comments about gaining muscle mass too easily so he limited his weight training sessions. He did not stop lifting though

    It wasn't the weight training makes you slow argument. It was the he didn't want to be any heavier argument.

    The whole point is that it makes you heavier therefore slower, not that lifting itself makes you slower. That should be pretty self-explanatory. He might have lifted as a younger teen, but he definitely said he preferred not to lift weights around 95/96.

    He certainly changed that POV not long after and became something of a gym junky.

    Even when he was a teenager he was still bumping off any and everyone and lots of these were hardened forwards, not just stringbean backs of the era. I would be absolutely astonished if he wasn’t well into the weights by the time he debuted. That and some intense athletics/plyometrics plus freakish good genes ( aside from his kidneys unfortunately) made him what he was.



  • @sparky said in Jonah the tv series:

    Best athlete I've seen play Rugby.

    Wrong, apparently that’s SBW



  • A lot of the polynesian boys get gains very easily from lifting/strength training , bit like the african american athletes,

    genetically gifted in that area



  • I watched this. It was OK, but with two big things wrong with it:

    1. Why did they keep jumping around all over the timeline? Even being pretty familiar with most of the story it made it very hard to follow. I ended up on Wikipedia because I'd forgotten how many wives he had and was trying to work out who was who.

    2. Major problem working out who all the characters were. Maybe they needed Gandalf to intone, "Behold, Laurie Mains, coach of the All Blacks" (Peter Jackson's go to continuity play).

    I've got no idea how anyone who didn't know Jonah's story would have followed that.



  • @kiwiinmelb said in Jonah the tv series:

    A lot of the polynesian boys get gains very easily from lifting/strength training , bit like the african american athletes,

    genetically gifted in that area

    Not to mention Jonahs favourite food - the Taro, rich in minerals and protein which may have contributed to his ability to gain strength



  • @Chris-B agree entirely. So many transitions and very little info on who the characters were. But what a reminder of how amazing he was while being plagued illness. Incredible he managed to achieve what he did.



  • @Nevorian said in Jonah the tv series:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Jonah the tv series:

    A lot of the polynesian boys get gains very easily from lifting/strength training , bit like the african american athletes,

    genetically gifted in that area

    Not to mention Jonahs favourite food - the Taro, rich in minerals and protein which may have contributed to his ability to gain strength

    Didn't they discover a few years back that it was actually the PI yam that was the steroid of the islands and not Taro?



  • @Chris-B yeah I found the same thing annoying 1 min it was 2003 and then zooms back to 95 o mean they could’ve just played it straight through



  • @Nepia had not heard that but I guess anything grown in the Pacific is from volcanic derived soils rich in many minerals etc



  • @Nepia said in Jonah the tv series:

    @Nevorian said in Jonah the tv series:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Jonah the tv series:

    A lot of the polynesian boys get gains very easily from lifting/strength training , bit like the african american athletes,

    genetically gifted in that area

    Not to mention Jonahs favourite food - the Taro, rich in minerals and protein which may have contributed to his ability to gain strength

    Didn't they discover a few years back that it was actually the PI yam that was the steroid of the islands and not Taro?

    I read that too .


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