MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019



  • 3 votes as usual



  • A Smit
    Patty T
    K Reid ( 🙂 )

    I feel guilty I can't add votes for Dubs, ALB, Cane, Ardie



  • Read
    Smith
    Whitelock

    Ardie, ALB, Reece and SBW my next best.



  • Read
    Ardie
    SBW



  • Ardie - his stats were amazing on attack - more than all the rest of the forwards put together, and 13 tackles no misses.
    Read - played basically 6, with kaino like venom
    A Smith - awesome Connor Murray like kicking AND bullet pass. TJ when he came on had his one awful pass but man he was like an extra loosie. What a 1 2



  • Read
    Smith
    ALB

    SBW had his best game in ages, and Patty T was massive. Rest were very good and our bench had punch too.

    Not much you can say when you score nada. Great reply to last week but Oz were way off their pace from last week.



  • So many guys could have made the top 3. I picked SBW (best game I can remember in black at a crucial point), Read (back to his best) and Bridge



  • A smith - master class of tactics
    Cane - he lead that physicality in the forwards, not super flashy but super physical
    Barrett - thought he lead the team well from the back, more for that than anything.

    Really could have been almost anyone. All did there jobs.



  • @Machpants said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    Ardie - his stats were amazing on attack - more than all the rest of the forwards put together, and 13 tackles no misses.
    Read - played basically 6, with kaino like venom
    A Smith - awesome Connor Murray like kicking AND bullet pass. TJ when he came on had his one awful pass but man he was like an extra loosie. What a 1 2

    This. Read playing tight and Ardie wider on attack worked a treat. Ardie was wrecking havoc and Read had the crazy eyes back on defense, was smacking blokes all night.

    A Smith was back to his very best. He and TJP are both in outstanding form at the moment, we're very blessed to have two world class 9s at the top of their game right now.

    Honorable mentions to basically the rest of the team, but most pleasing for me was SBW who made a real difference in the midfield. I think he's a lock for 12 if fit, with ALB and Goodhue taking the other midfield spots in the 23.



  • I know this was a hard game to only pick three but currently Bridge is sitting on more votes than ALB and Cane FFS.
    Nice for a new guy to play well and do his job but he was not in the same class as those guys and they were even below a few others.



  • In no order...

    A Smith...the pass and those kicks plus workrate, when he plays like that he is in a class of his own.
    S Whitelock...huge motor, into everything, scrums, lineout, rucks, tackled and then tackled some more.
    K Read...rightly criticised most of the year, but like a few other greats before him in poor form early in a RWC year, looks to be building into peak form for the RWC.

    Honorable mentions to Pat T, Ardie, Cane, BB, RM, SBW, ALB...hell, pretty much the other 20 guys who wanted to show last week was an aberration.



  • Love the spread there. A lot of guys putting their hands up



  • @Rembrandt said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    Love the spread there. A lot of guys putting their hands up

    It was the consummate team performance



  • Cane, Savea, Tu'ipolutu for me



  • All great. Smith, Savea and Read made the biggest difference IMO.



  • Smith, Read, ALB. Bubbling under - Whitelock, Cane, Savea, Beauds.



  • I went Ardie, Cane and Read for the fact the loosies as a trio were exceptional. They all offer something different but combined as a unit to really dominate. Looking forward to seeing more of this combination moving forward.



  • Mounga, Savea, Read



  • Read, Savea, Bridge



  • Can't really vote on this one. Consummate team effort.

    Apart from Coles' brain-fart (and apart from that he was bloody good), they were all outstanding. E.g. Ardie & Read stood out but it was Sam Cane's work allowed them to do that.



  • @Canes4life

    Best performance by the ABs backrow since Kaino, McCaw and Read against South Africa in 2015 RWc semi.



  • Savea, Read, Mo'unga



  • I'm going the three loosies as well.

    Edit: Wondering how the fudgecakes Cane is polling so low. 🤔



  • I take it that an Aussie voted for Coles!



  • @Nepia said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    I'm going the three loosies as well.

    Edit: Wondering how the fudgecakes Cane is polling so low. 🤔

    He was great. Others might have stood out more, that is all



  • @DMX said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    I take it that an Aussie voted for Coles!

    nah that was me with a fat fingered stupid click. Still thinking of last week.

    If I had my votes again would definitely go Smith/SBW/Reado



  • Ardie, Read, Tuipulotu. Really wanted to choose a couple of others but the win was down to the pack.



  • Ok, so those voting for SBW - what was it that swayed you?



  • @Bones Physicality and his passing. He committed defenders and made space for others outside him. Loved his focus and discipline.

    He was my third vote (behind Read and Ardie), it could have very easily (and perhaps should have) gone to ALB, Aaron Smith, Cane, Mo'unga or Bridge. The fact he was better than I expected and it was his best game in Black for a long-time perhaps influenced my choice.



  • @sparky yeah that's the feeling I'm getting - the votes thrown his way seem to be more aimed at the fact he looked adequate and didn't shit the bed. To me he was one of the more ordinary players on the park and made some errors, but was comparatively good when compared to SBW previously.



  • @Bones SBW did a job I'm not sure Laumape or ALB could do. He acted as an extra backrow player at times and then showed a high-quality passing game at others.

    Crotty for me is the AB's best 12 but I can see why Hansen and co persist with SBW. On evenings like Saturday he can be a vital cog in a high-quality team performance..



  • @sparky said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    @Bones SBW did a job I'm not sure Laumape or ALB could do. He acted as an extra backrow player at times and then showed a high-quality passing game at others.

    Crotty for me is the AB's best 12 but I can see why Hansen and co persist with SBW. On evenings like Saturday he can be a vital cog in a high-quality team performance..

    I guess I simply didn't notice this.



  • @Bones said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    @sparky yeah that's the feeling I'm getting - the votes thrown his way seem to be more aimed at the fact he looked adequate and didn't shit the bed. To me he was one of the more ordinary players on the park and made some errors, but was comparatively good when compared to SBW previously.

    I texted my old man when he came off that I thought it was his best game in a long time.

    Dominant tackles, some good offloads and his try was very Nonu-esque. I just thought our backline functioned a lot better with him in it.



  • @MajorRage oh I can understand that, it was definitely his best game in aaaaages. Best AB though? Not by a long shot for me.



  • I went for A. Smith, Read and Tuipolutu because they all had their best game in Black for years (ever for Tuipolutu).



  • @Bones said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    @MajorRage oh I can understand that, it was definitely his best game in aaaaages. Best AB though? Not by a long shot for me.

    I wouldn't say he was best AB either ... I would probably give that to Savea. But I thought our backline looked the best it had in the last couple of years, and felt he was key to that.

    Although it's probably more the forwards that caused that, but they get too much kudos on this forum already ...



  • @MajorRage said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    @Bones said in MOTM vs Australia, Bledisloe II 2019:

    @MajorRage oh I can understand that, it was definitely his best game in aaaaages. Best AB though? Not by a long shot for me.

    I wouldn't say he was best AB either ... I would probably give that to Savea. But I thought our backline looked the best it had in the last couple of years, and felt he was key to that.

    Although it's probably more the forwards that caused that, but they get too much kudos on this forum already ...

    I thought the backline looked great too, I'm pretty hesitant to put that at SBW's feet though, especially when I didn't see anything that I think isn't done by any of the other options (plus it seems most rating him are missing the errors he made).



  • I think the conditions suited SBW - the wet weather meant more direct play which suits his strengths at this stage of his career where his lack of pace was not exposed.



  • Voted 6 days after the fact before seeing the results. Read and Savea were no-brainers. My 3rd vote could have been for a number of players but I went for Laulala - those scrums, and he very effective as a distributor too.


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