Too many pick-a-nic baskets ...



  • Hi. I'm booboo and I'm fat.

    Have reached my fat bastard threshold, the point at which I have decided I need to do something about it.

    My weight has slowly yet steadily been creeping up over the last year (no footy) from the mildly "morbidly obese" 108kg (which I've been for too long) to the far too fat 113.5kg.

    I've been telling myself I'll exercise my way out of it - while not changing the eating - but have also been quite slack at gymming.

    So Mrs boo (who's own motivation has sparked this) and self have:

    1. gone to see a dietician recommended by a friend of hers that lost truck loads
    2. been given book on meals by said friend (referenced by said dietician)
    3. logged on to [url="http://www.calorieking.com.au"]www.calorieking.com.au[/url]

    The website is awesome as we've been given a set number of calories to aim at (1600 for me, 1200 for Mrs boo) (amongst other stuff like percentages of proteins, carbohydrates and certain foods that supposedly help weight loss), and it does a great job at tracking that.

    Anyways ... have hit 111kg already in the first week. Somebody said "it's all fluid" - but I'm not sure what that means.

    And will be ensuring more diligence at exercising too.

    Have not read other threads on here as yet .. so hope I have complied with the protocol for here .

    More comments and less booboo in the coming weeks (hopefully).



  • Good work dude, how tall are ya for point of reference ?

    Personally virtual cold turkey on the booze has worked wonders for me these last couple of weeks.



  • Great to see you join the ex-fat bastards forum. By keeping your weblog up to date and checking in on the progress of others you will keep the motivation up. Most on here started for he exact same reasons as you and myself included started at around the 113-116kg range. Am happy to say that I have lost 20kg and maintained that loss for the last 2 years.



  • [quote name='MN5' timestamp='1347868041' post='311580']Good work dude, how tall are ya for point of reference ?

    Personally virtual cold turkey on the booze has worked wonders for me these last couple of weeks.[/quote]

    +1. I don't really drink that much any more, and I think I enjoy it more for that reason.

    Eating control is the way to go. The first ten kegs will just drop off, and then you can start getting serious about the exercise

    Keeping all the info in a spreadsheet also helps. Weekly measure of weight, chest, waist, and hips is as great motivator.



  • Welcome booboo.

    1600 calories seems VERY LOW for someone your size mate. You must be quite hungry????

    As a point of reference I usually aim for around 2500 to just maintain my weight (around 80kg) and about 2000 for when I am trying to trim the fat right down (like now).

    Good luck with the goals!



  • Weight loss first then transition to focusing on your bodyshape (esp if you are doing weights and/or cardio). That app sounds awesome. My cousin, who is a big tall bastard, had a lot of trouble losing his puppy fat. He is in his early 20s and by taking up running and tracking his kai on a phone app he's cut down amazingly. He's fit and stoked at being that much healthier.

    Good to have you onboard booboo!! I think most of us find updating our threads a really good motivator for our respective training goals. Join us in commiserating our broken ass bodies (injuries! yuck!) and celebrating our feats of strength lol.



  • [quote name='NTA' timestamp='1347876316' post='311612']
    +1. I don't really drink that much any more, and I think I enjoy it more for that reason.

    Eating control is the way to go. The first ten kegs will just drop off, and then you can start getting serious about the exercise

    Keeping all the info in a spreadsheet also helps. Weekly measure of weight, chest, waist, and hips is as great motivator.
    [/quote]

    Today is check in day
    Weight 111.0kg
    Chest 111cm
    Waist 108cm
    Hips 109cm

    (didn't record measurements last week).

    I see I actually peaked at 114.5 when I weighed myself last Monday - but for some reason I was down to 113.5 the next day when I started this. So I'm taking that as my starting weight.

    [quote name='JK' timestamp='1347910255' post='311650']
    Welcome booboo.

    1600 calories seems VERY LOW for someone your size mate. You must be quite hungry????

    As a point of reference I usually aim for around 2500 to just maintain my weight (around 80kg) and about 2000 for when I am trying to trim the fat right down (like now).

    Good luck with the goals!
    [/quote]

    1600 was the target given to me. And 1850 would be a level to maintain weight.

    Accoding to some sources it does seem low - Calorie King website had something higher (which I've forgotten) - but remarkably un-hungry. Amzing how 150g (or less) of meat and a salad fills you up!! Weird.

    Bonus is doing this with Mrs boo is she'll look damn hot at the end of it - so my motivation to keep up with her



  • [quote/]
    Bonus is doing this with Mrs boo is she'll look damn hot at the end of it - so my motivation to keep up with her
    [/quote]

    Plus you'll have more energy to keep up!!

    I may or may not have dropped 'it' from the above sentence!! ahem...



  • [quote name='NTA' timestamp='1347876316' post='311612']
    +1. I don't really drink that much any more, and I think I enjoy it more for that reason.

    Eating control is the way to go. The first ten kegs will just drop off, and then you can start getting serious about the exercise

    Keeping all the info in a spreadsheet also helps. Weekly measure of weight, chest, waist, and hips is as great motivator.
    [/quote]

    Yeah I do that as well on an excel thing at home, If I do a rep or two less than last time I try and think why ( poor sleep, stress or whatever ) and make sure I do the same or better next time. How the shirts/jeans feel is a good indicator too although they are a bit snug right out of the wash sometimes.

    Regarding the booze I treated myself to a lager from New World last night which was no where near as satisfying as I thought it would be !



  • I also hardly drink nowdays and when I do I go low carb and its actually not bad. Only have a couple per fortnight anyway so minimal impact.

    Another good site to track your eats is myfitnesspal.com. I run this on my blackberry and track everything I eat. Still think even 1850 is low. I'm steadily dropping weight on 2000cals at 80kg.



  • I drink f-all, but I also dont think about denying myself, if I wanna beer/wine/drambuie, I have one (I mean cooking steak on the BBQ just aint the same without a beer in hand even though I use my BBQ pretty much weekly, I dont always have a beer)

    There is always something in the fridge or cupboard, but I just dont get through it very quickly.

    Am upgrading to a smartphone finally, and will be looking at some of the apps about.



  • Check-in day.

    110.0kg even. Lost 1kg, 3.5kg overall in 2 weeks.

    Rapt with that as had looong weekend away and allowed myself to relax wrt to intake (both solid and - ahem - liquid .... not over the top just more than I intended.)

    Conversely did a reasonable amount of exercise walking through bush, up hill and down dale to look at waterfalls and such like. Mrs boo dragged me out of bed before sun rise this morning (remembering this is Qld and the sun rises at 5:15am) for an hour walk. Mrs boo less happy with her result after weekend despite exercise.

    Trouble with taking time off work is that it impacted on Fern time (i.e., have to go like a bugger to get stuff done before I go away ... and will have to do same to catch up) so have not had time to come back on here and reply at all - or peruse the other threads - so sorry guys.

    Measurements:
    Chest 110cm (-1cm)
    Waist 108cm (nil)
    Hips 109cm (-1cm)
    (measurement may be a bit more accurate this week though as had to fuge using a piece of string last week but ofund Mrs boo's tape measure today... )



  • 1600 cals - I don't even get down to that when leaning down - think about 1700. And I end up with hbodyfat of 2%, so look out!!

    Be careful about doing this, lsiing weight, and then going back to how you used to eat. If the eating plan you are following is not sustainable for the rest of your life, then it is really a waste of time, and can slot into 'fad diet' category. If that makes sense. It's one of my favourite hates, when people diet, lose weight, hit thir target, and then resume eating the same way they did when they were fat, what the hell do they expect!!!!

    anyway, good work!

    and 'it's all fluid', yup, when you first start cutting out all the crap carbs and things, your body lets go a ton of water. Apparently for each carb molecule your body takes it, it also takes in two water molocules. So you are a giant sponge!!



  • ^ What that guy said.

    I've come to accept the changes I've made, and that every luxury must be followed by disciplined eating and exercise.

    There is a point where the volume of luxuries simply cannot be balanced.

    This is the investment. The return is looking fitter than I ever have, and eventually a body like a (somewhat hairy) male model



  • Check-in day.

    108.5kg even. Lost 1.5kg, 5.0kg overall in 3 weeks.

    Measurements:
    Chest 108cm (-2cm, -3 overall)
    Waist 104cm (104cm -4 overall)
    Hips 108cm (-1cm, -2 overall)

    Thanks all for the advice re the calories. Have looked around at some more sources and agree that the 1600 seems very low. Checked the book that the dude gave us and it is 1600 that he wants me on ... so I don't know. It's working and I'm not too hungry. Had a couple of days when I'm rumbling just before bed so have a nibble (whereas previously I'd scoff 4 or more bits of bread and butter ... or should that be butter with a bit of bread ...) which probably puts me slightly over.

    And a couple of nights away over the last fortnight and have gone over the allocation - but obviosly have managed to keep things reasomably in check. If I plug in my exercise my net calories always stay below the 1600 ... but I'm trying to concentrate on reducing intake of crap first and foremost and not wanting to think I can exercise my way out of a pig-out.

    Have seriously cut down the alcohol (haven't got around to posting on TR's thread on off topic - will do so when I get a few moments), and limited myself to one mid-strength beer (Friday arvo work) and two glasses of Sav blanc (Saturday arvo). As I said above the effect of the reduced alcohol is two-fold (or three-fold or more-fold) as a. I'm not taking in those calories, b. not snacking/eating as I'm drinkning, c. I'm more inclined to exercise/be active.

    Will do my best not to yo-yo diet Bart. And thanks for clarifying that fluid thing!

    And Nick, at 44 I doubt whether I'll get back to being the fittest I've ever been - back in my ealry 20s (gulp 20 years ago) was 96kg with absolutely SFA body fat, gymming my heart out, playing footy and training and trying to turn what little talent I had into a starting spot in my second division club's senior team. Can't see that but another 8-10 kg would be good.



  • At 35 I aim to be fitter ( all round ) than I have ever been, I was very lean ( but no muscles ) and fit in my late teens, thought I was bulking up the right way when I went from the late 70's to about 95kg but much of this was down to filling out and a combo of a few weights but mainly too much beer. This all culminated in hitting 108kg in London which even at my height ( 1.9m ) was too much.



  • Hah London sure has the effect. I too got in the worst shape of my life over there!



  • The Heathrow injection!!

    I hit the UK a toned 84kg and had been trying to gain weight with all manner of supplements for about a year or more...within 5 months of hitting the UK I was 105kg!

    Oddly, even when I was very fit playing footy over there, gym, running, training I was playing at around 98kg, now arond 95kg.



  • Yep, London can fuck up your health like no other city. Whilst I kept up the drinking I tried to clean up the diet and despite smashing pints of Guinness galore I got down to 89kg when I got home to NZ, if only it were that easy now !!!



  • Reading a good book at the moment called 'power eating' on what you should eat for traiing needs etc. I think just to live, your body needs about (from memory, will go back and find out) 1200 for women and 1400 calories for men.