Hansen



  • Steve Hansen inherited Graham Henry's once in a generation team. He did nothing with it.

    We've been poor for the past three years.

    Flat track bullies who were owned by Ireland and England.

    Like John Mitchell in 2003 he was out of ideas so he went with the hot Super Rugby team. And he selected a lot of duds. Bridge, Scott Barrett, Reece, Mounga. Discarded experience and selected mediocrity. Also like Mitchell he's an arrogant tool who likes to criticize players in public. I hope Ioane and Luatua are having some bitter laughs.



  • Agree. Limited coach who only won game because of the quality of NZ players.

    But his decision to stack the team with a number of very limited Crusaders players (including Barrett who is not a 6) was really his main downfall



  • Bullshit. You guys are pathetic.



  • @MajorRage I'm right and have been for three years about him.



  • Please to see the back of him. I hope everyone involved with this team is given the boot. Hopefully they bring in Jamie Joseph as head coach.



  • @MajorRage said in Hansen:

    Bullshit. You guys are pathetic.

    This., utter rubbish. England played a blinder. We played like we'd spent ourselves Vs Ireland. Like last semi,, except we had carter too save us with grit. Our current players aren't gritty but they are amazing



  • @Machpants Nope, complete Truth. When has this team won the big ones?



  • Wait till the arrogant fucks at NZRU appoint foster as the next coach. We are in big trouble then



  • @SammyC Absolutely mate. A lot of guys who've been believing their own bullshit.



  • A garbage post. Fucking garbage.

    But time for a full coaching clean out now. Bring in Razor and give him full reign to choose his staff. McLeod may survive but I doubt Razor will want the baggage.



  • It will be interesting to see how Hansen's tenure is rated in time. He has been the coach for a lot of firsts for the ABs, some of those not good (e.g. loses to Ireland).



  • @shark said in Hansen:

    A garbage post. Fucking garbage.

    But time for a full coaching clean out now. Bring in Razor and give him full reign to choose his staff. McLeod may survive but I doubt Razor will want the baggage.

    I think it’s time to step away from Crusader country.



  • Perhaps too soon for post mortems and obituaries. But here goes.

    Hansen's strengths were his organisation and his ability to stay cool and come across as an ordinary Kiwi bloke under fire. He has a good heart and good values.

    The weakness was his coaching. I don't think he did much to turn his players into better performing athletes. His side was never really the same after Wayne Smith left. In the end, his selection was found out too.



  • @shark I am 1000% correct and have been proven so by the continual losses against physical teams.



  • Hansen's arrogance went through the roof after he won in 2015.



  • Oh and by the way, this post 2015 team just isn't a patch on the previous side stacked with all-time greats. No-one could have done any better with the cattle available. Losing convincingly to a very good England side shouldn't be a major surprise to anyone given the patchy form shown throughout the 2016-19 era and the lesser standard of players available in general.



  • @Tim said in Hansen:

    @shark I am 1000% correct and have been proven so by the continual losses against physical teams.

    It would funny how predictable it was if it wasn’t a bloody semi final.

    I got swept up by the Ireland performance, but smashing a team that lost to Japan means nothing in hindsight



  • @shark Out coached regularly. Those losses against Ireland were crap.



  • @Kirwan holy fuck I agree



  • @sparky said in Hansen:

    The weakness was his coaching. I don't think he did much to turn his players into better performing athletes. His side was never really the same after Wayne Smith left. In the end,his selection was found out too.

    As his assistants got weaker (with Smith moving on) he seemingly delegated more. Tough to keep a high performance environment when most player probably rate their super coaches higher than Foz & co.



  • @Tim said in Hansen:

    @shark I am 1000% correct and have been proven so by the continual losses against physical teams.

    Oh give yourself another pat on the back why don't you?!



  • @shark Yeah, I was saying it too during the game to my wife. Makes you realise how great our side was in the last WC.



  • @shark I am the oracle.



  • @Kirwan Absolutely. If you want to beat the best you have to select and coach the best whether they come ready to fit into your systems or not.



  • @Tim said in Hansen:

    @shark I am the oracle.

    If it helps you process the loss, then you can proclaim yourself to be Jesus if you like.



  • @rotated

    I'm blaming Foz. Razor should have gone with this squad to Japan as part of the coaching set-up.



  • Tell Rennie to come home instead of taking a Wallabies job that no Aussie wants him for.



  • In a way I've missed this post WC loss blood letting on the fern. Let it out lads, it was disappointing alright. Been a very long time since we've had to drown our sorrows like this.



  • @shark said in Hansen:

    Oh and by the way, this post 2015 team just isn't a patch on the previous side stacked with all-time greats. No-one could have done any better with the cattle available. Losing convincingly to a very good England side shouldn't be a major surprise to anyone given the patchy form shown throughout the 2016-19 era and the lesser standard of players available in general.

    Who was the coach throughout the 2016-2019 era before tonight?

    This side is no 2015 (and the fact the current team believes they are somehow related to them is probably 25% of the problem) - but two world class locks, experienced loose forward trio and decent skill position backs is more than enough to put together a RWC winner.



  • Hansen had the squad to win the WC, he was just out coached by Eddie, simple as that. Hansen is still a good coach and did plenty for NZ rugby. I’m putting a full stop on his era and looking forward to the next one.



  • @Tim said in Hansen:

    Steve Hansen inherited Graham Henry's once in a generation team. He did nothing with it.

    We've been poor for the past three years.

    Flat track bullies who were owned by Ireland and England.

    Like John Mitchell in 2003 he was out of ideas so he went with the hot Super Rugby team. And he selected a lot of duds. Bridge, Scott Barrett, Reece, Mounga. Discarded experience and selected mediocrity. Also like Mitchell he's an arrogant tool who likes to criticize players in public. I hope Ioane and Luatua are having some bitter laughs.

    I can sort of imagine you ejaculating as you write. Like you’ve been waiting for a loss so you can beat your little drum. Pathetic



  • @Billy-Tell I've been saying it for three years. His flaws are obvious.



  • @Billy-Tell said in Hansen:

    @Tim said in Hansen:

    Steve Hansen inherited Graham Henry's once in a generation team. He did nothing with it.

    We've been poor for the past three years.

    Flat track bullies who were owned by Ireland and England.

    Like John Mitchell in 2003 he was out of ideas so he went with the hot Super Rugby team. And he selected a lot of duds. Bridge, Scott Barrett, Reece, Mounga. Discarded experience and selected mediocrity. Also like Mitchell he's an arrogant tool who likes to criticize players in public. I hope Ioane and Luatua are having some bitter laughs.

    I can sort of imagine you ejaculating as you write. Like you’ve been waiting for a loss so you can beat your little drum. Pathetic

    Rubbish, he and others have been worried about this all year. Nobodies happy we lost, but we are frustrated at the predictability of it



  • @Kirwan Exactly. And dropping Ioane and Cane was really aggravating.



  • @Kirwan said in Hansen:

    @Billy-Tell said in Hansen:

    @Tim said in Hansen:

    Steve Hansen inherited Graham Henry's once in a generation team. He did nothing with it.

    We've been poor for the past three years.

    Flat track bullies who were owned by Ireland and England.

    Like John Mitchell in 2003 he was out of ideas so he went with the hot Super Rugby team. And he selected a lot of duds. Bridge, Scott Barrett, Reece, Mounga. Discarded experience and selected mediocrity. Also like Mitchell he's an arrogant tool who likes to criticize players in public. I hope Ioane and Luatua are having some bitter laughs.

    I can sort of imagine you ejaculating as you write. Like you’ve been waiting for a loss so you can beat your little drum. Pathetic

    Rubbish, he and others have been worried about this all year. Nobodies happy we lost, but we are frustrated at the predictability of it

    Ah the wise in hindsight brigade. Post me your pre match predictions...or no one will believe you.



  • Remember when he picked an injured Squire ahead of Luatua for the squad that couldn't beat the Lions?



  • @Tim said in Hansen:

    @Kirwan Exactly. And dropping Ioane and Cane was really aggravating.

    Every 50/50 selection call had a Crusader bias too.



  • @Billy-Tell I picked NZ to lose this tournament.



  • @chimoaus said in Hansen:

    Hansen had the squad to win the WC, he was just out coached by Eddie, simple as that. Hansen is still a good coach and did plenty for NZ rugby. I’m putting a full stop on his era and looking forward to the next one.

    This is the frustration of it all. If we had to play again next week I would back us to adjust and win semi-comfortably.

    What has become predictable is the requirement for wake up call after wake up call...



  • @Billy-Tell said in Hansen:

    @Kirwan said in Hansen:

    @Billy-Tell said in Hansen:

    @Tim said in Hansen:

    Steve Hansen inherited Graham Henry's once in a generation team. He did nothing with it.

    We've been poor for the past three years.

    Flat track bullies who were owned by Ireland and England.

    Like John Mitchell in 2003 he was out of ideas so he went with the hot Super Rugby team. And he selected a lot of duds. Bridge, Scott Barrett, Reece, Mounga. Discarded experience and selected mediocrity. Also like Mitchell he's an arrogant tool who likes to criticize players in public. I hope Ioane and Luatua are having some bitter laughs.

    I can sort of imagine you ejaculating as you write. Like you’ve been waiting for a loss so you can beat your little drum. Pathetic

    Rubbish, he and others have been worried about this all year. Nobodies happy we lost, but we are frustrated at the predictability of it

    Ah the wise in hindsight brigade. Post me your pre match predictions...or no one will believe you.

    Posts are up on the forum, feel free to use the search


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