Springboks moving forward



  • Hi all, its been some time since I have been in my root forum and good to see most of the old timers still going strong.

    The Springboks have made us all very proud and are looking forward to the future.

    After we won the previous two WC's we lost control via coaches and players loss but this time Rassie will still control after he build us some real player depth.

    Our player movement are:
    Confirmed out:
    Schalk Brits (38), Beast Mtawarira (34), Flo Louw (34)

    Possibly out before RWC 2023:
    Bongi Mbonambi (30), Vincent Koch (29), Trevor Nyakane (30), Duane Vermeulen (33), Cobus Reinach (29), Elton Jantjies (29), Frans Steyn (32), Makazole Mapimpi (29), Willie le Roux (30)

    This leave is with :
    Malcolm Marx (25), Thomas du Toit (24), Steven Kitshoff (27), Frans Malherbe (28), Lood de Jager (26), Eben Etzebeth (27), Franco Mostert (28), RG Snyman (24), Pieter-Steph du Toit (27), Siya Kolisi (28), Kwagga Smith (26), Faf de Klerk (27), Herschel Jantjies (23), Handré Pollard (25)
    Damian Willemse (21), Lukhanyo Am (25), Damian de Allende (27), Jesse Kriel (25), Cheslin Kolbe (25), S'busiso Nkosi (23), Warrick Gelant (24)

    Players that got close:
    Coenie Oosthuizen (30), Marcell Coetzee (28), Jan Serfontein (26) Dillyn Leyds (27)
    Curwin Bosch (22), Wilco Louw (25) Ox Nché (24) André Esterhuizen (25), Sikhumbuzo Notshe (26), Akker van der Merwe (28), Marvin Orie (26), Marco van Staden (24), Rynhardt Elstadt (29)
    Lizo Gqoboka (29), Scarra Ntubeni (28)



  • @OomPB Welcome back PB.

    Interesting to see the relative ages. Quite a bunch of them are going to be a bit long-in-the-tooth come 2023. Let's hope they either retain great form like Beast, or some new youngsters come through strongly.

    The next target though will be the BIL's tour in 2021. I expect a good core group to at least make it that far.

    What will be interesting to see is whether Rassie is left free from interference to direct rugby in what he believes is the right direction.
    Or whether, since everybody loves a winner, we have a bunch of bandwagon jumpers both from inside and outside rugby who suddenly feel it is their duty to impose their "wisdom". Let's hope not. Otherwise it is going to be at least another 12 year drought.



  • @Billy-Webb Thanks Billy. Our pack was our strength in the WC. Fatties are like red wine only start to peak in their 30s. We'll still able to field the likes of Ginga, Tank, Marx, Frans, RG, Eben, Lood for many years in our tight 5.

    Our structures is still solid. However it will change because of the dropping of the u19CC. This years top schoolboys are all leaving for France.



  • And he returns ... odd timing, why would you come back now? 🙂

    Had enough of the Sydney private school love in that is GAGR?



  • @MajorRage 😕 I tried a few years back but wasnt welcome. Diversity is a very good thing. My english improved in Sydney.



  • @OomPB said in Springboks moving forward:

    @MajorRage 😕 I tried a few years back but wasnt welcome. Diversity is a very good thing. My english improved in Sydney.

    That's not something you hear everyday. 😉

    Welcome back Uncle PB



  • RWC Squad in 2020:

    Retired :Schalk Brits, Tendai Mtawarira

    Japan: Malcolm Marx, RG Snyman & Damian de Allende - Munster?, Kwagga Smith, Duane Vermeulen, Jesse Kriel, Willie le Roux

    S15:
    Stormers: Bongi Mbonambi (Kings), Steven Kitshoff, Frans Malherbe, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Siya Kolisi, Herschel Jantjies, Damian Willemse
    Sharks: Thomas du Toit, Lukhanyo Am, Makazole Mapimpi, S'busiso Nkosi
    Bulls: Trevor Nyakane, Warrick Gelant ,
    Lions: Elton Jantjies

    England
    Vincent Koch - Saracens, Lood de Jager - Sale, Franco Mostert - Gloucester, Francois Louw - Bath, Faf de Klerk - Sale Sharks, Cobus Reinach - Northampton

    France:
    Eben Etzebeth - Toulon, Handré Pollard - Montpellier, François Steyn - Montpellier, Cheslin Kolbe - Toulouse,



  • Has Rassie changed his mind about retiring then?



  • @dogmeat said in Springboks moving forward:

    Has Rassie changed his mind about retiring then?

    Rassie is going to Director of Rugby role, not hands on coaching - I wonder how much he wil stick his oar in, can cause problems for a new, esp inexperienced like the favourite to take the role, coach to take ownership.



  • @Machpants Nienaber is the favourite to take over the coaching role.



  • Heyneke Meyer needs a job again. 🙂



  • @OomPB said in Springboks moving forward:

    Nienaber

    Yeah and he has no head coaching experience. So will it just be a head coach in name only? Otherwise he is far too inexperienced



  • It looks like Kolbe prefers playing sevens next year (because of the Olympics, end of July), so possibly not available for (some of) the Springboks tests.

    Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the current French season with Toulouse.
    
    ‘I want to be a European champion with Toulouse and we can maybe do it this season,’ Kolbe added. ‘This is my next goal, with the one, I hope, to represent South Africa with the national team at sevens at the Tokyo Olympics in 2020.’
    
    Kolbe last played sevens in the 2016-17 World Series and was part of the Blitzboks team that finished with a bronze medal in the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.
    

    https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolbe-targeting-tokyo-olympics/



  • @Stargazer said in Springboks moving forward:

    It looks like Kolbe prefers playing sevens next year (because of the Olympics, end of July), so possibly not available for (some of) the Springboks tests.

    Cheslin Kolbe has revealed that he is targeting a return to sevens rugby in the 2020 Tokyo Olympic Games after finishing the current French season with Toulouse.
    
    ‘I want to be a European champion with Toulouse and we can maybe do it this season,’ Kolbe added. ‘This is my next goal, with the one, I hope, to represent South Africa with the national team at sevens at the Tokyo Olympics in 2020.’
    
    Kolbe last played sevens in the 2016-17 World Series and was part of the Blitzboks team that finished with a bronze medal in the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.
    

    https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/kolbe-targeting-tokyo-olympics/

    Will be interesting to see how this managed by SA Rugby.
    The SA Sevens setup generally shies away from "XV's imports" for these events (although it does happen) because Sevens has become such a specialist game. But Kolbe did spend a long time with them before, so it is not new to him.
    But I suspect, they'd like him with the Sevens team pretty exclusive of any other commitments.

    If he goes that route, it opens up opportunities elsewhere. S'bu Nkosi would get back to show his skills, which are not unimpressive.



  • For want of a better place to put this:



  • @OomPB Hi OomPB long time no hear, how are you doing?



  • @Joan-and-Mary said in Springboks moving forward:

    @OomPB Hi OomPB long time no hear, how are you doing?

    Great to see you are still around, my tipping team mate.


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