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    • OomPB
      OomPB last edited by OomPB

      We lost a lot of players and at this stage no franchise had their squads on paper, so still a lot of guessing.

      The Stormers: (last year of rugby on Newlands)

      My A team:
      Herschel Jantjies/Damian Willemse/Seaball Senatla/Huw Jones/Daniel du Plessis/Sergeal Pietersen/Dillian Lleyds
      Steven Kitshoff/Bongi/Frans Malherbe/JD Schickerling/Moerat/Kolisi/PsdT/Jaco Coetzee

      B Team
      Jano Vermaak/Josua Stander (JL du Plessis)/Adwill van der Merwe/Rikus Prinsloo/Ruhan Nel/Lionel Zas/Tristen Lleyds
      Ali Vermaak/Scarra/Wilco Louw/C vanZyl/Meihuizen/Ernst van Rhyn/Trokkie

      BULLS
      Bulls Player losses:
      Schalk Brits (Retired)
      Lood de Jager (to England Sale Sharks)
      Jason Jenkins (to Japan Toyota Verblitz)
      Eli Snyman (to Italy Benetton)
      RG Snyman (to Japan Honda Heat)
      Hendré Stassen (to France Stade Français)
      Thembelani Bholi (to Southern Kings)
      Jannes Kirsten (to England Exeter Chiefs)
      Paul Schoeman (to Japan Honda Heat)
      Roelof Smit (to Lions)
      Hanro Liebenberg (to England Leicester Tigers)
      Duane Vermeulen (to Japan Kubota Spears)
      André Warner (to Lions)
      Handré Pollard (to France Montpellier)
      Chris Smith (returned to Pumas)
      JT Jackson (to Southern Kings)
      Jesse Kriel (to Japan Canon Eagles)
      Travis Ismaiel (to England Harlequins)
      Duncan Matthews (to Lions)

      Confirmed gains so far:
      Juandré Kruger (from France Toulon)
      Abongile Nonkontwana (from Cheetahs)
      Josh Strauss (from England Sale Sharks)
      Morné Steyn (from France Stade Français)

      LIONS
      Props
      Johannes Jonker
      Leo Kruger
      Nathan McBeth
      Sti Sithole
      Dylan Smith
      Frans van Wyk
      Jannie du Plessis ?
      Asenathi Ntlabakanye

      Hookers
      PJ Botha
      Jan-Henning Campher
      Pieter Jansen

      Locks
      Rhyno Herbst
      Reinhard Nothnagel
      Marvin Orie
      Ruben Schoeman
      PJ Steenkamp
      Ruan Vermaak

      Loose forwards
      Cyle Brink
      Hacjivah Dayimani
      Pikkie de Villiers
      Len Massyn
      Marnus Schoeman
      Vincent Tshituka
      Francke Horn
      Roelof Smit

      Scrum-halves
      Ross Cronjé
      Andre Warner
      Dillon Smit
      Bradley Thain
      Morné van den Berg

      Fly-halves
      Eddie Fouché
      Shaun Reynolds
      Elton Jantjies
      James Mollentze

      Centres
      Jan-Louis la Grange
      Manuel Rass
      Wandisile Simelane
      Dan Kriel
      Lourens van der Schyff

      Wingers
      Tyreeq February
      Duncan Matthews
      Stean Pienaar
      Jamba Ulengo
      Courtnall Skosan

      Fullbacks
      Tyrone Green
      Gianni Lombard
      Andries Coetzee
      Tiaan Swanepoel

      SHARKS
      Sharks Player losses:

      Tendai Mtawarira (retired)
      Coenie Oosthuizen (to England Sale Sharks)
      Cullen Collopy (to United States New Orleans Gold)
      Akker van der Merwe (to England Sale Sharks)
      Ruan Botha (to England London Irish)
      Jean-Luc du Preez (to England Sale Sharks)
      Jacques Vermeulen (to England Exeter Chiefs)
      Dan du Preez (to England Sale Sharks)
      Philip van der Walt (to England Newcastle Falcons)
      Robert du Preez (to England Sale Sharks)
      Andre Esterhuizen (to Japan Munakata Sanix Blues)
      Kobus van Wyk (to New Zealand Hurricanes)
      Rhyno Smith (to Cheetahs)
      Courtney Winnaar (to Southern Kings)
      Robert du Preez Snr (released) - Coach

      Player gains so far:
      Michael Kumbirai (from Stormers)
      Ox Nché (from Cheetahs)
      Jordan Sesink-Clee (from Maties)
      Sikhumbuzo Notshe (from Stormers)
      James Venter (from Lions)
      Henco Venter (from Cheetahs)
      Jordan Chait (from Maties)
      Werner Kok (from South Africa Sevens)
      Madosh Tambwe (from Lions)
      Sean Everitt (from Sharks) - Coach

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      • Stargazer
        Stargazer last edited by

        I read that there is a preseason game between the Sharks and Russia (yes, you read that right) on Friday, 10 January 2020.

        IIRC, "Marvel Day" is on Sunday, 19 January.

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        • Snowy
          Snowy @OomPB last edited by

          @OomPB said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

          The Stormers: (last year of rugby on Newlands)

          What's that about? Just the Stormers moving or no rugby at all?

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            Stargazer @Snowy last edited by

            @Snowy

            NEWLANDS’ FUTURE IN DOUBT FOLLOWING WESTERN PROVINCE STADIUM DEAL

            Western Province Rugby will move to Cape Town Stadium in 2021 in a move that places the future of Newlands Stadium, the team’s current home, in doubt.
            
            The City of Cape Town’s Council has approved a binding heads of agreement between the city, Cape Town Stadium (pictured) and Western Province for the team to make the venue its home from February 1, 2021. The deal will potentially span the next 99 years.
            
            A “mutually beneficial” revenue share model has been agreed upon that grants Western Province preferential access to play all of its matches at Cape Town Stadium. Under the agreement, the city will be responsible for repairs, maintenance and operational costs at the stadium, which will retain its multi-purpose status and continue staging other sports and events.
            
            As part of the deal, additional suites will be constructed at Cape Town Stadium, which has a capacity of 55,000 and was built for the 2010 FIFA World Cup in South Africa.
            
            Western Province Rugby Group chief executive Paul Zacks said: “These heads of agreement are the culmination of three long years of hard work. There is much ahead of us before we can play at Cape Town Stadium in 2021, with the primary anchor tenant agreement still to be finalised.”
            
            The announcement comes after multiple reports last month claimed that Newlands Stadium, one of the world’s most historic rugby union venues, is poised to be demolished and redeveloped as residential and retail property.
            
            Banking and asset management group Investec has reportedly been granted development rights to Newlands from 2021 through an agreement with the Western Province Rugby Football Union, which owns the stadium.
            
            Reports claim that Investec has agreed a 99-year lease on Newlands, with an immediate payment of R110m (£5.8m/€6.7m/$7.5m) due to the WPRFU. Investec is said to be seeking to transform the Newlands site into residential and retail development, with the WPRFU to benefit from a five-per-cent share in any profits derived from this plan, plus a further 3.5-per-cent share from the resale of any units developed. The plan would require the green light from the City of Cape Town.
            
            Newlands has a current capacity of around 52,000 and opened in 1888, staging its first official rugby match in 1890. It currently serves as the home of the Stormers Super Rugby franchise and domestic team Western Province, along with being a regular venue for national team games.
            
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            • Bovidae
              Bovidae last edited by

              Are Sale Sharks going to be new Saracens with all the SA expats?

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                DMX last edited by

                I am curious as to whether Springboks can remain strong with strong schools system, weakened Super Rugby and many overseas? It’s a broader question for the whole Southern Hemisphere but maybe we will see how Boks go after the World Cup and who and when the players will be available.

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                  cgrant @OomPB last edited by

                  @OomPB said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

                  We lost a lot of players and at this stage no franchise had their squads on paper, so still a lot of guessing.

                  The Stormers: (last year of rugby on Newlands)

                  My A team:
                  Herschel Jantjies/Damian Willemse/Seaball Senatla/Huw Jones/Daniel du Plessis/Sergeal Pietersen/Dillian Lleyds
                  Steven Kitshoff/Bongi/Frans Malherbe/JD Schickerling/Moerat/Kolisi/PsdT/Jaco Coetzee

                  B Team
                  Jano Vermaak/Josua Stander (JL du Plessis)/Adwill van der Merwe/Rikus Prinsloo/Ruhan Nel/Lionel Zas/Tristen Lleyds
                  Ali Vermaak/Scarra/Wilco Louw/C vanZyl/Meihuizen/Ernst van Rhyn/Trokkie

                  BULLS
                  Bulls Player losses:
                  Schalk Brits (Retired)
                  Lood de Jager (to England Sale Sharks)
                  Jason Jenkins (to Japan Toyota Verblitz)
                  Eli Snyman (to Italy Benetton)
                  RG Snyman (to Japan Honda Heat)
                  Hendré Stassen (to France Stade Français)
                  Thembelani Bholi (to Southern Kings)
                  Jannes Kirsten (to England Exeter Chiefs)
                  Paul Schoeman (to Japan Honda Heat)
                  Roelof Smit (to Lions)
                  Hanro Liebenberg (to England Leicester Tigers)
                  Duane Vermeulen (to Japan Kubota Spears)
                  André Warner (to Lions)
                  Handré Pollard (to France Montpellier)
                  Chris Smith (returned to Pumas)
                  JT Jackson (to Southern Kings)
                  Jesse Kriel (to Japan Canon Eagles)
                  Travis Ismaiel (to England Harlequins)
                  Duncan Matthews (to Lions)

                  Confirmed gains so far:
                  Juandré Kruger (from France Toulon)
                  Abongile Nonkontwana (from Cheetahs)
                  Josh Strauss (from England Sale Sharks)
                  Morné Steyn (from France Stade Français)

                  LIONS
                  Props
                  Johannes Jonker
                  Leo Kruger
                  Nathan McBeth
                  Sti Sithole
                  Dylan Smith
                  Frans van Wyk
                  Jannie du Plessis ?
                  Asenathi Ntlabakanye

                  Hookers
                  PJ Botha
                  Jan-Henning Campher
                  Pieter Jansen

                  Locks
                  Rhyno Herbst
                  Reinhard Nothnagel
                  Marvin Orie
                  Ruben Schoeman
                  PJ Steenkamp
                  Ruan Vermaak

                  Loose forwards
                  Cyle Brink
                  Hacjivah Dayimani
                  Pikkie de Villiers
                  Len Massyn
                  Marnus Schoeman
                  Vincent Tshituka
                  Francke Horn
                  Roelof Smit

                  Scrum-halves
                  Ross Cronjé
                  Andre Warner
                  Dillon Smit
                  Bradley Thain
                  Morné van den Berg

                  Fly-halves
                  Eddie Fouché
                  Shaun Reynolds
                  Elton Jantjies
                  James Mollentze

                  Centres
                  Jan-Louis la Grange
                  Manuel Rass
                  Wandisile Simelane
                  Dan Kriel
                  Lourens van der Schyff

                  Wingers
                  Tyreeq February
                  Duncan Matthews
                  Stean Pienaar
                  Jamba Ulengo
                  Courtnall Skosan

                  Fullbacks
                  Tyrone Green
                  Gianni Lombard
                  Andries Coetzee
                  Tiaan Swanepoel

                  SHARKS
                  Sharks Player losses:

                  Tendai Mtawarira (retired)
                  Coenie Oosthuizen (to England Sale Sharks)
                  Cullen Collopy (to United States New Orleans Gold)
                  Akker van der Merwe (to England Sale Sharks)
                  Ruan Botha (to England London Irish)
                  Jean-Luc du Preez (to England Sale Sharks)
                  Jacques Vermeulen (to England Exeter Chiefs)
                  Dan du Preez (to England Sale Sharks)
                  Philip van der Walt (to England Newcastle Falcons)
                  Robert du Preez (to England Sale Sharks)
                  Andre Esterhuizen (to Japan Munakata Sanix Blues)
                  Kobus van Wyk (to New Zealand Hurricanes)
                  Rhyno Smith (to Cheetahs)
                  Courtney Winnaar (to Southern Kings)
                  Robert du Preez Snr (released) - Coach

                  Player gains so far:
                  Michael Kumbirai (from Stormers)
                  Ox Nché (from Cheetahs)
                  Jordan Sesink-Clee (from Maties)
                  Sikhumbuzo Notshe (from Stormers)
                  James Venter (from Lions)
                  Henco Venter (from Cheetahs)
                  Jordan Chait (from Maties)
                  Werner Kok (from South Africa Sevens)
                  Madosh Tambwe (from Lions)
                  Sean Everitt (from Sharks) - Coach

                  Juandre Kruger is currently playing for the Llanelli Scarlets.

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                  • Billy Webb
                    Billy Webb @Snowy last edited by

                    @Snowy said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

                    @OomPB said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

                    The Stormers: (last year of rugby on Newlands)

                    What's that about? Just the Stormers moving or no rugby at all?

                    It has taken Western Province rugby pretty much going bankrupt (a tale of maladministration for another day) for the sensible decision to finally be taken.
                    Rugby in Cape Town will from 2021 be played at the world class Cape Town stadium instead of the disaster-in-waiting deathtrap of Newlands.

                    The traditional Western Province blokes like @OomPB will no doubt be sad to lose a historic venue - and I have sympathy - but it is the right move.

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                    • OomPB
                      OomPB @Bovidae last edited by

                      @Bovidae said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

                      Are Sale Sharks going to be new Saracens with all the SA expats?

                      Watched them yesterday, Mostly SA Sharks chicken runners plus Faf, did not look good .

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                      • OomPB
                        OomPB @cgrant last edited by

                        @cgrant S24 "Kruger will link up with the Bulls squad in December in preparation for the 2020 Super Rugby season."

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                        • OomPB
                          OomPB @DMX last edited by

                          @DMX said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

                          I am curious as to whether Springboks can remain strong with strong schools system, weakened Super Rugby and many overseas? It’s a broader question for the whole Southern Hemisphere but maybe we will see how Boks go after the World Cup and who and when the players will be available.

                          I suspect the Springbokke will be much stronger. For once they will have a smooth transition between 2 world cup cycles under Rassie.

                          Our SH bros starts with new coaches and players.

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                          • OomPB
                            OomPB @OomPB last edited by

                            S24
                            https://m.sport24.co.za/Rugby/SuperRugby/wp-confirm-there-may-be-life-after-world-cup-20191217

                            Western Province confirm there may be life after World Cup

                            The announcement on Tuesday that most of the Western Province World Cup Springboks remain committed to the union for next year is confirmation that at least one South African Vodacom Super Rugby franchise there may be life after the World Cup.

                            Most of the local franchises have been decimated by departures and retirements but the DHL Stormers will go into the new Super Rugby season with the core of the World Cup winning pack on their books. In addition to the eight Springboks who have signed contract extensions, the Stormers will also still have the services of fellow Boks Herschel Jantjies and Wilco Louw, who are still on contract.

                            Bok skipper Siya Kolisi heads the list of players who have committed to 2020, and he is joined by World Rugby Player of the Year Pieter-Steph du Toit, props Steven Kitshoff and Frans Malherbe and hooker Bongi Mbonambi from the pack that beat England in the World Cup final just six weeks ago.

                            Scarra Ntubeni, who became a Bok just before the World Cup although he did not go to Japan, Damian Willemse, who went to Japan as a replacement for the injured Jesse Kriel, and Dillyn Leyds are the other players with Bok colours that have signed until 2021. It is understood that the prospect of facing the British and Irish Lions in 2021 was a big draw for the players who re-committed.

                            Cobus Wiese, Jaco Coetzee and Ruhan Nel are players on the fringes of Bok selection who are still under contract, with the loose forward and second row stocks being boosted by Juarno Augustus, Johan du Toit, Nama Xaba, Ben-Jason Dixon, Chris van Zyl and JD Schickerling all signing new contracts.

                            Props Kwenzo Blose, Leon Lyons and Neethling Fouche are gaining in experience and will off-set the departure of Michael Kumbirai (Sharks) and Carlu Sadie. With Ali Vermaak reportedly over his injury problems, the Stormers won’t lack for front-row depth, with Boks on the bench and in the starting team.

                            If the Stormers have a potential weakness it is at the back, where the departure of Damian de Allende will leave a big hole to fill. Coach John Dobson will be hoping that Dan du Plessis is able to get through the season without being blighted by the injuries that have held back his career. Ditto for Dan’s cousin, flyhalf Jean-Luc du Plessis.

                            The Stormers are currently busy with their pre-season camp in George and were joined by their Springbok World Cup contingent last week. One of the first priorities Dobson faces is to get everyone on the same page with regards the team culture, with a very clear message likely to be spelt out to those players who have now experienced World Cup success that their career narrative didn’t end in the global final at Yokohama.

                            In addition to the established stars, there are several young players with huge promise, such as Salmaan Moerat and Ernst van Rhyn, both of them former national age group captains, who could do with the guidance offered by the World Cup winners as they start to work towards building a new dynasty at WP.

                            "We know what these players offer on and off the field, the challenge now is to get the most out of their considerable talents," said Dobson.

                            Kolisi, who of course will continue as Stormers captain, said that by keeping the core of the squad together, the Stormers have a great opportunity to achieve something special next season.

                            "I have been playing with some of these guys my whole career and we are all looking forward to reaching new heights in a Stormers jersey,” said Kolisi.

                            “We have a strong group of senior players and talented youngsters coming through all the time, which is what we need to reach our goal of rewarding the Newlands faithful for their incredible support.

                            "I know it has been a tough few years for us and we really appreciate them for sticking with us and hopefully we will have plenty to celebrate in the future."

                            Western Province Rugby Group CEO Paul Zacks said that given the strength of the players contracted, the future looks bright for the DHL Stormers.

                            "While the introduction of the new contracting model, salary caps and the number of senior players that we can contract has made it a challenging process, I am most pleased to confirm that we have managed to retain the majority of our senior players for 2020 and beyond,” said Zacks.

                            "It is encouraging to see how many top players have bought into our vision for the future and we look forward to seeing them help develop some of the outstanding young talent we have coming through the ranks in the years to come.”

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                            • OomPB
                              OomPB @OomPB last edited by

                              Huw Jones may join the Stormers again.

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                              • OomPB
                                OomPB last edited by

                                Warm ups:
                                January 10, Friday
                                Sharks v Pukke
                                Venue: Kings Park, Durban
                                Kick-off: 15.00

                                Sharks v Russia
                                Venue: Kings Park, Durban
                                Kick-off: 17.00

                                January 11, Saturday
                                Stormers v Maties, UCT, CPUT and a DHL WP XV
                                Venue: Florida Park, Ravensmead
                                Kick-off: 12.00

                                January 17, Friday
                                Sharks v Russia
                                Venue: Kings Park, Durban
                                Kick-off: 15.00

                                Lions v Bulls
                                Venue: Loftus Versveld, Pretoria
                                Kick-off: TBC

                                Jaguares v Georgia
                                Venue: Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires
                                Kick-off: 21.00 (02.00 January 18, South Africa time)

                                January 19, Sunday
                                *Stormers v Sharks (Super Sunday)
                                Venue: FNB Stadium, Soweto
                                Kick-off: 13.00

                                *Lions v Bulls (Super Sunday)
                                Venue: FNB Stadium, Soweto
                                Kick-off: 15.15

                                January 24, Friday
                                Jaguares v Georgia
                                Venue: San Isidro Club, Buenos Aires
                                Kick-off: 16.45 (22.45 South Africa time)

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                                  OomPB @OomPB last edited by

                                  Super Hero Sunday tomorrow in Soweto.

                                  52,000 ticket sold.

                                  Sharks vs Stormers
                                  Teams:

                                  Sharks

                                  15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 André Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Curwin Bosch, 9 Louis Schreuder, 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 7 Tyler Paul, 6 Henco Venter, 5 Hyron Andrews, 4 Le Roux Roets, 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Kerron van Vuuren, 1 Ox Nche

                                  Substitutes: 16 Dylan Richardson, 17 Mzamo Majola, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 JJ van der Mescht, 20 Ruben van Heerden, 21 James Venter, 22 Tera Mtembu, 23 Sanele Nohamba, 24 Boeta Chamberlain, 25 Jeremy Ward, 26 Marius Louw, 27 Madosh Tambwe, 28 Lwazi Mvovo

                                  Stormers

                                  15 Dillyn Leyds, 14 Sergeal Petersen, 13 Ruhan Nel, 12 Rikus Pretorius, 11 Edwill van der Merwe, 10 Damian Willemse, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Siya Kolisi (captain), 7 Ernst van Rhyn, 6 Nama Xaba, 5 David Meihuizen, 4 Salmaan Moerat, 3 Neethling Fouche, 2 Scarra Ntubeni, 1 Steven Kitshoff

                                  Substitutes: 16 Chad Solomon, 17 Kwenzo Blose, 18 Wilco Louw, 19 Hilton Lobberts, 20 Ben-Jason Dixon, 21 Thys Kitshoff, 22 Godlen Masimla, 23 Jean-Luc du Plessis, 24 Seabelo Senatla, 25 Michal Hazner, 26 David Kriel

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                                    OomPB last edited by

                                    Super Hero Sunday scores:
                                    Stormers 21-19 Sharks
                                    Bulls 40-35 Lions

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                                      Davesofthunder last edited by

                                      Any good summaries on the South African conference as we get closer?

                                      Keen to get a better grip on how those teams are stacking up after all the changes for 2020

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                                      • Stargazer
                                        Stargazer last edited by

                                        The 2020 Sharks squad has been announced:

                                        .

                                        Media release: https://sharksrugby.co.za/2020/01/21/cell-c-sharks-captain-and-squad-announcement/

                                        Springbok centre, Lukhanyo Am has been named the captain.

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                                          Bulls 2020 squad:
                                          Forwards: Simphiwe Matanzima, Gerhard Steenekamp, Lizo Gqoboka, Corniel Els, Jaco Visagie, Muller Uys, Johan Grobbelaar, Louis van der Westhuizen, Trevor Nyakane, Wiehahn Herbst, Dayan van der Westhuizen, Andries Ferreira, Ryno Pieterse, Ian Groenewald, Juandré Kruger, Ruan Nortje, Tim Agaba, Marco van Staden, Jeandré Rudolph, Ruan Steenkamp, Abongile Nonkontwana, Wian Vosloo, Josh Strauss.

                                          Backs: Ivan van Zyl, Embrose Papier, Marco Jansen van Vuren, Morné Steyn, Chris Smith, Manie Libbok, Rosko Specman, Divan Rossouw, Burger Odendaal, Dylan Sage, Franco Naude, Cornal Hendricks, Nafi Tuitavake, Marnus Potgieter, Johnny Kotze, Jade Stighling, Warrick Gelant, Richard Kriel.

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                                          • OomPB
                                            OomPB last edited by

                                            Stormers could not get Huw Jones but signed Jamie Roberts

                                            https://thestormers.com/welsh-rugby-legend-roberts-bolsters-dhl-stormers/

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                                              OomPB @Davesofthunder last edited by OomPB

                                              @Davesofthunder said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

                                              Any good summaries on the South African conference as we get closer?

                                              Keen to get a better grip on how those teams are stacking up after all the changes for 2020

                                              I am biased but on paper the Stormers should do well specially with the pack (Kolisi, PSdT, Malherbe, Bongi, Kitshoff) and exciting Herschel Jantjies and Damian Willemse. They havent lost that many players like the others and have better depth compare to the others.
                                              The Sharks have a very good backline (Andre Esterhuizen and Am in midfield, and a back three of Mapimpi, Nkosi and Aphelele Fassi.). Lions have a very young but talented squad, Bulls will there or there about. Jaquares will also be strong.

                                              Not sure about the Jacquares.

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                                                Davesofthunder @OomPB last edited by

                                                @OomPB

                                                Good point on the stormers, the scale of losses amongst the other teams is crazy!

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                                                  ARHS last edited by

                                                  Stormers are a real threat this year. Should battle it out with chiefs and crusaders and maybe jaguares

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                                                    cgrant last edited by

                                                    Last year, I predicted the Jaguares to finish on top of the SA conference. I am not so sure for 2020. They have lost a few key players (Sanchez, Lavanini, Matera). It will be very tight.

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                                                    • OomPB
                                                      OomPB last edited by

                                                      DHL Stormers squad: Juarno Augustus, Kwenzo Blose, Jaco Coetzee, Paul de Wet, Dan du Plessis, Jean-Luc du Plessis, Johan du Toit, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Ben-Jason Dixon, Schalk Erasmus, Neethling Fouche, Michal Haznar, Lyle Hendricks, Herschel Jantjies, Dan Jooste, Steven Kitshoff, Siya Kolisi, David Kriel, Dillyn Leyds, Wilco Louw, Leon Lyons, Godlen Masimla, Frans Malherbe, Bongi Mbonambi, David Meihuizen, Salmaan Moerat, Matt More, Ruhan Nel, Scarra Ntubeni, Sergeal Petersen, Rikus Pretorius, Jamie Roberts, Sazi Sandi, JD Schickerling, Seabelo Senatla, Chad Solomon, Edwill van der Merwe, Ernst van Rhyn, Abner van Reenen, Chris van Zyl, Ali Vermaak, Cobus Wiese, Damian Willemse, Nama Xaba, Leolin Zas.

                                                      https://thestormers.com/dhl-stormers-2020-squad-announced/

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                                                        Sharks team vs Bulls

                                                        15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am (captain), 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Curwin Bosch, 9 Louis Schreuder, 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 7 Tyler Paul, 6 James Venter, 5 Hyron Andrews, 4 Ruben van Heerden, 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Kerron van Vuuren, 1 Ox Nche
                                                        Substitutes: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Le Roux Roets, 20 Henco Venter, 21 Sanele Nohamba, 22 Boeta Chamberlain, 23 Jeremy Ward

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                                                          macandcheese Banned @cgrant last edited by

                                                          @cgrant said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

                                                          Last year, I predicted the Jaguares to finish on top of the SA conference. I am not so sure for 2020. They have lost a few key players (Sanchez, Lavanini, Matera). It will be very tight.

                                                          Sanchez left at end of 2018 He's been replaced by Miotti who'll be Pumas #10 by 2023 RWC

                                                          Lavanini is a liability He'l be replaced by Alemanno who's alot more disciplined & is a lineout option to boot

                                                          Moyano gone to Toulon Good player but Jaguares have tons of wing option S Carreras will start at #11

                                                          Only significant loss will be Matera who was best player in Super Rugby last year

                                                          Jaguares will replace Matera by committee:

                                                          Grondona Pedimonte (U20), Gorrisen Lezana will all start at Flanker/#8 as Desio cover flank as well as #8

                                                          I expect Jaguares to again dominate SA Conf & go back to back Stormers only team sniffing the Jaguares talent level

                                                          1. Jaguares - Win SR
                                                          2. Stormers - QF
                                                          3. Sharks - QF
                                                          4. Lions - 10th
                                                          5. Bulls - 11th
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                                                          • OomPB
                                                            OomPB @OomPB last edited by OomPB

                                                            @OomPB said in SA S15 Conference 2020:

                                                            Sharks team vs Bulls

                                                            15 Aphelele Fassi, 14 Sbu Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am (captain), 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Curwin Bosch, 9 Louis Schreuder, 8 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 7 Tyler Paul, 6 James Venter, 5 Hyron Andrews, 4 Ruben van Heerden, 3 Thomas du Toit, 2 Kerron van Vuuren, 1 Ox Nche
                                                            Substitutes: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Juan Schoeman, 18 John-Hubert Meyer, 19 Le Roux Roets, 20 Henco Venter, 21 Sanele Nohamba, 22 Boeta Chamberlain, 23 Jeremy Ward

                                                            Bulls

                                                            15 Warrick Gelant, 14 Cornal Hendricks, 13 Johnny Kotze, 12 Burger Odendaal (captain), 11 Rosko Specman, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 Ivan van Zyl, 8 Josh Strauss, 7 Abongile Nonkontwana, 6 Jeandré Rudolph, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Andries Ferreira, 3 Wiehahn Herbst, 2 Jaco Visagie, 1 Lizo Gqoboka

                                                            Substitutes: 16 Johan Grobbelaar, 17 Simphiwe Matanzima, 18 Trevor Nyakane, 19 Ruan Nortje, 20 Ryno Pieterse, 21 Wian Vosloo, 22 Embrose Papier, 23 Manie Libbok

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                                                            • Stargazer
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                                                              Sharks touring squad (for Highlanders, Hurricanes, Rebels and Reds away games):

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                                                              https://sharksrugby.co.za/2020/02/01/touring-squad/

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                                                              • Machpants
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                                                                They'll be in a better state than the Canes when they hit the caketin!

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                                                                • Snowy
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                                                                  "Cell C Sharks" really is a very unfortunate name. They sound like a prison gang that gets let out for matches.

                                                                  Always good to win first up though.

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                                                                  • Duluth
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                                                                    There was no match thread for it but the Lions v Stormers game had a hell of a finish

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                                                                    • Duluth
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                                                                      Nafi Tuitavake is starting for the Bulls this week

                                                                      I think that will be his first Super Rugby game since 2014 with the Crusaders

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                                                                      • OomPB
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                                                                        Sharks now the big favorite to win this. The have been on tour and sitting right at the top of the log.

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                                                                        • Stargazer
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                                                                          Bulls and Lions going into self-isolation when back in South Africa.

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                                                                          • OomPB
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                                                                            S24

                                                                            While the dreaded midnight deadline for local players to opt out of their existing contracts with South African franchises might've passed, there still a significant amount of anxiety over what the true extent of clause, part of SA Rugby's Industry Mitigation Plan in response to the Covid-19 pandemic, will be on playing rosters.
                                                                            

                                                                            BULLS
                                                                            In:

                                                                            Duane Vermeulen

                                                                            Marcel van der Merwe

                                                                            Gio Aplon

                                                                            Arno Botha

                                                                            Out:

                                                                            Johnny Kotze

                                                                            Manie Libbok

                                                                            LIONS
                                                                            Out:

                                                                            Malcolm Marx

                                                                            Tyrone Green

                                                                            Ruan Vermaak

                                                                            Shaun Reynolds

                                                                            SHARKS
                                                                            In:

                                                                            Manie Libbok

                                                                            Out:

                                                                            Andre Esterhuizen

                                                                            Tyler Paul

                                                                            Andisa Ntsila

                                                                            In:

                                                                            Kade Wolhuter

                                                                            Keke Morabe

                                                                            Out:

                                                                            Wilco Louw

                                                                            Dillyn Leyds

                                                                            JL du Plessis

                                                                            PSdT had a record offer from France, Mapimpi & Amm not far behind but they rejected it

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                                                                            • Machpants
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                                                                              That's a lot of good players lost

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                                                                              • nzzp
                                                                                nzzp @OomPB last edited by

                                                                                @OomPB sounds like PSDT is going?

                                                                                https://www.the42.ie/pieter-steph-du-toit-contract-5100800-May2020/?utm_source=shortlink

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                                                                                  • Machpants
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                                                                                    I wonder what dirt the Stormers have on him?

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