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@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@antipodean And Donald Trump thinks it's fake news and a construct by the Democrats meant to discredit him....
@canefan No he doesnt. Don't make shit up or even worse mindlessly believe the bullshit you are fed by the Democrat biased media.
FFS
The words came out of his mouth so for once I was inclined to believe he said them
No they did not.
Show us the actual clip then, with full context.I saw it. Do your own research
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@antipodean And Donald Trump thinks it's fake news and a construct by the Democrats meant to discredit him....
@canefan No he doesnt. Don't make shit up or even worse mindlessly believe the bullshit you are fed by the Democrat biased media.
FFS
The words came out of his mouth so for once I was inclined to believe he said them
No they did not.
Show us the actual clip then, with full context.I saw it. Do your own research
You are full of it.
Snope that hates Trump
And another
The Democrats have been lying about Trumps response for week, pivoting from calling him a racist for taking actions to stop flights from China, to not doing enough... in between they criticised the diversity of the group they put together to address it.
Then they claimed that CDC had funding cut, which a blatant lie, they have had funding increases.They Democrats and its media buddies are very skillful at these lies
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That's quite the loop hole
Federal government figures show 1477 students arrived in Australia on Friday and Saturday using this loophole.
Australian universities have copped criticism for offering cash “grants” to Chinese students to help them get around the coronavirus travel ban
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@Rembrandt said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
That's quite the loop hole
Federal government figures show 1477 students arrived in Australia on Friday and Saturday using this loophole.
Australian universities have copped criticism for offering cash “grants” to Chinese students to help them get around the coronavirus travel ban
It's a tricky one for both countries. International students have become a huge export revenue earner in NZ and Australia... but a cynic might wonder if some in the sector sometimes appear to worry more about their revenue stream than about student welfare & outcomes...
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119985064/coronavirus-university-of-auckland-says-govt-travel-bans-a-political-decision
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119942873/victoria-university-says-minister-was-missing-in-action-during-crisis -
Those poor universities!
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/119985064/coronavirus-university-of-auckland-says-govt-travel-bans-a-political-decisionThe World Health Organisation said travel bans during health emergencies are ineffective in most situations.
...uh huh..yet they refer to the reduced figures coming from China, which if we were to be super charitable and believe them then at the very least it would be because of extreme travel restrictions within China
This does however align with WHO's obsession with social stigma rather than the disease itself..
WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said...“Stigma, to be honest, is more dangerous than the virus itself. Let’s really underline that. Stigma is the most dangerous enemy,” he told a news briefing in Geneva.
I think I am starting to share @Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD cynicism over these 'expert' recommendations.
@Donsteppa snap!
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China requires citizens to use a smartphone app that dictates if they should be quarantined.
As China encourages people to return to work despite the coronavirus outbreak, it has begun a bold mass experiment in using data to regulate citizens’ lives — by requiring them to use software on their smartphones that dictates whether they should be quarantined or allowed into subways, malls and other public spaces.
But a New York Times analysis of the software’s code found that the system does more than decide in real time whether someone poses a contagion risk. It also appears to share information with the police, setting a template for new forms of automated social control that could persist long after the epidemic subsides.
The Alipay Health Code, as China’s official news media has called the system, was first introduced in the eastern city of Hangzhou — a project by the local government with the help of Ant Financial, a sister company of the e-commerce giant Alibaba.
Neither the company nor Chinese officials have explained in detail how the system classifies people. That has caused fear and bewilderment among those who are ordered to isolate themselves and have no idea why.
Such surveillance creep would have historical precedent, said Maya Wang, a China researcher for Human Rights Watch. China has a record of using major events, including the 2008 Beijing Olympics and the 2010 World Expo in Shanghai, to introduce new monitoring tools that outlast their original purpose, Ms. Wang said.
“The coronavirus outbreak is proving to be one of those landmarks in the history of the spread of mass surveillance in China,” she said.
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I see the claim:
"The Government's travel ban on people from coronavirus-hit mainland China is a political decision that isn't justified by public health considerations"I assume the complainant expects the ban to be lifted because it is unfair or inequitable or inappropriate or racist or something. Any excuse will do to gain the advantage he seeks - the consequences are not his concern.
It is almost certain that, as happens in politics, there are numerous approaches to parliamentarians to arrange exceptions to the ban, which they do readily - the consequences are not their concern. These measures are porous for sure.
This afternoon I heard from family in my Epping-Eastwood area (in Sydney) that our little local Ryde Hospital has an infected doctor and a precautionary stand down of staff with whom he associated - the virus strike is apolitical, random, unpredictable and ever present evidently.
How does the Ryde shift meister handle loss of a half dozen or more medical staff for a fortnight today? How does he handle it if the same thing happens tomorrow or the next day?
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This from a South African forum I read -
This morning at the post office, while I was in line, two people with masks entered."
TOTAL PANIC!
Then they said: "This is a robbery"...and we all calmed down...
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@reddog said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
No one sane in Asia - including realists in the mainland - trust WHO. Look after yourself people.
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2nd confirmed case.
Woman who came back from Italy last week. Had a return flight to Palmie on Monday.
two kids at school on the Shore (that'll set the panic merchants off).
Husband showing signs of disease.
Effectively she picked up the disease in Italy and was in contact with people here for a week before being diagnosed - so a bit more of a risk than the first case
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
2nd confirmed case.
Woman who came back from Italy last week. Had a return flight to Palmie on Monday.
two kids at school on the Shore (that'll set the panic merchants off).
Husband showing signs of disease.
Effectively she picked up the disease in Italy and was in contact with people here for a week before being diagnosed - so a bit more of a risk than the first case
This weekend I’m turning my triton into a Mad Max car .
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@Paekakboyz said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@jegga so it is you on those bloody VTNZ ads!
hmm now are you the rough bugger driving or the guy strapped to the back
No one drives my Ute but me .
Also no one else wants to.
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
2nd confirmed case.
Woman who came back from Italy last week. Had a return flight to Palmie on Monday.
two kids at school on the Shore (that'll set the panic merchants off).
Husband showing signs of disease.
Effectively she picked up the disease in Italy and was in contact with people here for a week before being diagnosed - so a bit more of a risk than the first case
"*The woman also took two domestic flights - Air NZ flight 5103 Auckland to Palmerston North on March 2, and Air NZ 8114 Palmerston North to Auckland on the same day.
The Herald understands the woman travelled to Palmerston North for work but returned to Auckland after becoming too ill."*
How nice of her to be too ill for work that she had to go home - on a fucking plane with 50 other people that could now have the disease and be spreading it around Auckland.
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@jegga said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Let’s use this an excuse to permanently cage off and quarantine Palmerston North.
After a suitable amount of time has passed we can nuke it from orbit . It’s the only way to be sure .
Hang on, are you the mysterious woman @jegga ?
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@voodoo said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@jegga said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Let’s use this an excuse to permanently cage off and quarantine Palmerston North.
After a suitable amount of time has passed we can nuke it from orbit . It’s the only way to be sure .
Hang on, are you the mysterious woman @jegga ?
I only identified as her for the flights