Hurricanes v Blues



  • Blues flying back from SA have a short turnaround week.

    By contrast the Hurricanes had the bye in round four, then eased back into it with a semi opposed training run vs the Sunwolves.
    They've been preparing for this game for two weeks

    It'd be a massive upset if the Hurricanes don't win



  • @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Blues flying back from SA have a short turnaround week.

    By contrast the Hurricanes had the bye in round four, then eased back into it with a semi opposed training run vs the Sunwolves.
    They've been preparing for this game for two weeks

    It'd be a massive upset if the Hurricanes don't win

    I see what you're doing there, but it won't work. We don't even have a notable first five!!!!



  • @canefan

    I'm not trying to claim underdog status. I'm just stating the facts why the Blues are the underdogs

    I think we have the better pack. That last quarter is going to be tough though.. I expect the Blues to fade



  • @canefan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Duluth said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Blues flying back from SA have a short turnaround week.

    By contrast the Hurricanes had the bye in round four, then eased back into it with a semi opposed training run vs the Sunwolves.
    They've been preparing for this game for two weeks

    It'd be a massive upset if the Hurricanes don't win

    I see what you're doing there, but it won't work. We don't even have a notable first five!!!!

    our notable 10 is still on holiday! Can't try that one.



  • Looking forward to the scrums - Lomax v Lorax should be fun.



  • @Duluth Might be worth making a few changes for this one, similar to what we did against the Bulls.



  • Should be a fun watch. The Canes are fairly hard to beat at home and with the Blues returning from SA I think it will probably be a step too far for them. I suppose the key for the Blues is to pressure Fletcher Smith as much as possible.



  • @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Might be worth making a few changes for this one, similar to what we did against the Bulls.

    Depending on the injury status guys like Christie, Akira, GCT and Page could be useful in the 23. They didn't travel to SA



  • @Canes4life said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    Should be a fun watch. The Canes are fairly hard to beat at home and with the Blues returning from SA I think it will probably be a step too far for them. I suppose the key for the Blues is to pressure Fletcher Smith as much as possible.

    you boys are red hot favourites. Red hot.

    TAB has Blues at $2.65, Canes at $1.48. Getting within 20 is clearly a plan.

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  • The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.



  • @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    So its an inevitable massive banana peel for the canes. Underdog status regained.



  • @Rembrandt said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    So its an inevitable massive banana peel for the canes. Underdog status regained.

    By definition wouldn't a banana peel game indicate Canes are favourites? Underdog Blues.



  • @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    That truly is an awful stat.

    I don't think we are going to win this, but I thought the same against the Stormers. Seems to be that sort of competition this year.

    If we do win, that cements that the Blues have turned a corner.



  • @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    That truly is an awful stat.

    I don't think we are going to win this, but I thought the same against the Stormers. Seems to be that sort of competition this year.

    If we do win, that cements that the Blues have turned a corner.

    That's 6 years without a win away in NZ? That is surprising



  • @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    That truly is an awful stat.

    I don't think we are going to win this, but I thought the same against the Stormers. Seems to be that sort of competition this year.

    If we do win, that cements that the Blues have turned a corner.

    That's 6 years without a win away in NZ? That is surprising

    Tana was coach for three years, so there is half the time 🙂 Kirwan was not much better.



  • @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    That truly is an awful stat.

    I don't think we are going to win this, but I thought the same against the Stormers. Seems to be that sort of competition this year.

    If we do win, that cements that the Blues have turned a corner.

    That's 6 years without a win away in NZ? That is surprising

    Tana was coach for three years, so there is half the time 🙂 Kirwan was not much better.

    Does that go back as far as Pat Lam or just Tana and Kirwan?



  • @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    That truly is an awful stat.

    I don't think we are going to win this, but I thought the same against the Stormers. Seems to be that sort of competition this year.

    If we do win, that cements that the Blues have turned a corner.

    That's 6 years without a win away in NZ? That is surprising

    Tana was coach for three years, so there is half the time 🙂 Kirwan was not much better.

    Does that go back as far as Pat Lam or just Tana and Kirwan?

    Lam made the semis, then had a horror run with injuries (Kaino ended up at lock).



  • @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    That truly is an awful stat.

    I don't think we are going to win this, but I thought the same against the Stormers. Seems to be that sort of competition this year.

    If we do win, that cements that the Blues have turned a corner.

    That's 6 years without a win away in NZ? That is surprising

    Tana was coach for three years, so there is half the time 🙂 Kirwan was not much better.

    Does that go back as far as Pat Lam or just Tana and Kirwan?

    Lam made the semis, then had a horror run with injuries (Kaino ended up at lock).

    I meant in terms of timing. I can't remember how long Kirwan was in the job for. Either way, it's a shocker of a run.

    Looking at the way your lot are playing now, I imagine that will be easily ended this season? Who do you have to play away once BB is back? Chiefs and Highlanders?



  • @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    That truly is an awful stat.

    I don't think we are going to win this, but I thought the same against the Stormers. Seems to be that sort of competition this year.

    If we do win, that cements that the Blues have turned a corner.

    That's 6 years without a win away in NZ? That is surprising

    Tana was coach for three years, so there is half the time 🙂 Kirwan was not much better.

    Does that go back as far as Pat Lam or just Tana and Kirwan?

    Lam made the semis, then had a horror run with injuries (Kaino ended up at lock).

    I meant in terms of timing. I can't remember how long Kirwan was in the job for. Either way, it's a shocker of a run.

    Looking at the way your lot are playing now, I imagine that will be easily ended this season? Who do you have to play away once BB is back? Chiefs and Highlanders?

    oh, I think Kirwan was three years too, and Leon has had one. So Lam is the distant past now.

    Yes, the away game against the Highlanders is the target to kill this stat.



  • @Kirwan only need to look at the table now, presently have to be one of the more even comps?

    4 points separates 1st place (Stormers and 8th place Blues - who, as we know beat the stormers on the weekend)

    NZ Conference even tighter with 'saders on top with 14, 'canes, Chiefs, Blues all 13 and Highlanders 5, although all those teams bar the blues have a game in hand.

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  • @taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan only need to look at the table now, presently have to be one of the more even comps?

    4 points separates 1st place (Stormers and 8th place Blues - who, as we know beat the stormers on the weekend)

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    I can't wait until they get rid of the stupid Pool ranking system. 5 teams that should be ahead of the Brumbies and two teams that should be ahead of the Crusaders





  • @taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo

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    Pedant alert

    I appreciate what you have done but it's not correct. Chiefs over Blues as we have beaten them and Hurricanes above chiefs due to points diff.



  • @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Kirwan said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @KiwiMurph said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    The Blues have lost their last 25 away NZ derby games. Underdogs.

    That truly is an awful stat.

    I don't think we are going to win this, but I thought the same against the Stormers. Seems to be that sort of competition this year.

    If we do win, that cements that the Blues have turned a corner.

    That's 6 years without a win away in NZ? That is surprising

    Tana was coach for three years, so there is half the time 🙂 Kirwan was not much better.

    Does that go back as far as Pat Lam or just Tana and Kirwan?

    Blues last away win vs NZ team was the first game of Kirwan's tenure - round 1 2013. Against Canes. Lam finished in 2012.



  • @Hooroo meh, I only did it based on total points and then points diff...Chiefs and 'canes have a game in hand too...

    fluffyfulla!



  • Sorry Blues, but I tipped you. Payback!



  • @KiwiMurph Haha then we hammered the Crusaders the next week and everyone thought we were heading back to the glory days. We ended up winning 4 more games that year.....



  • @African-Monkey was that the game that Moala had a blinder and scored that brilliant try from a cross kick?



  • @taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo

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    Four games in and the Sunwolves have a negative points differential of over a hundred.



  • @antipodean said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @taniwharugby said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Hooroo

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    Four games in and the Sunwolves have a negative points differential of over a hundred.

    and that includes one good win



  • @Canes4life Yup that's the one. Chris Noakes was our 10 that day as well so miracles can happen from time to time...



  • @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes v Blues:

    @Canes4life Yup that's the one. Chris Noakes was our 10 that day as well so miracles can happen from time to time...

    This was a big reason for the fade throughout that season....



  • @African-Monkey Wasn't it Baden Kerr??



  • @Canes4life He was backup.



  • @KiwiMurph He was virtually a left footed Simon Hickey. Tidy enough who did the basics ok but waaaaaay too slow to cut it at the top level.



  • 15 Stephen Perofeta, 14 Joe Marchant, 13 Rieko Ioane, 12 TJ Faiane, 11 Mark Telea, 10 Otere Black, 9 Sam Nock; 8 Akira Ioane, 7 Blake Gibson, 6 Tom Robinson, 5 Jacob Pierce, 4 Patrick Tuipulotu (c), 3 Ofa Tuungafasi, 2 Kurt Eklund, 1 Karl Tu’inukuafe.

    Reserves: 16 James Parsons, 17 Ezekiel Lindenmuth, 18 Sione Mafileo, 19 Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, 20 Tony Lamborn, 21 Jonathan Ruru, 22 Harry Plummer, 23 Matt Duffie

    https://blues.rugby/developing-depth-after-trek-back-from-south-africa/

    The Blues will call on their depth after a short week and long trek from South Africa to take on the Hurricanes in Wellington on Saturday in Investec Super Rugby.
    
    Coach Leon MacDonald said that a key finding from last year was that a number of the squad dropped their intensity after playing too many minutes week-in, week-out.
    
    Accordingly, loose forward Hoskins Sotutu, 21, have been spelled this week with Blake Gibson given his third start and Akira Ioane his first start of the season.
    
    “At the beginning of the season I said that we would select on form, and that we over-played some players last year and their form dropped off as a result,” said MacDonald.
    
    “Hoskins was selected at No 8 on form and has played exceptionally well for us. Equally Akira has been training hard. He is in terrific shape and raring to go now that he has his chance.”
    
    Meanwhile Dalton Papalii will miss the game as he sits out his first mandatory All Black break.
    
    “We are blessed right now in terms of loose forwards with Blake Gibson able to start at seven and with Tony Lamborn to provide the thrust off the bench.”
    
    All Black Ofa Tu’ungafasi swaps with Sione Mafileo in the starting line-up, while James Parsons, who returns from injury, and Ezekiel Lindenmuth, come into the reserves. There is excitement within the squad with North Harbour’s Gerard Cowley-Tuioti, a key forward in the 2019 campaign, returning off the bench after successful rehabilitation from a pec muscle rupture in the Mitre-10 Cup.
    
    The backline remains unchanged after a sparkling display against the Stormers where Otere Black was impressive in guiding play from first-five.
    
    “We enjoyed an excellent two weeks in South Africa but with some unexpected disruption travelling home has meant we will only get a couple of on-field training sessions this week, “said MacDonald.
    
    “That’s not ideal but we will do our best to test our ability to be a more consistently competitive combination.”
    
    The Blues return home to host the Lions at Eden Park next Saturday, with the game brought forward to 4.25pm to assist the Sunwolves who have been forced to move their home games to Australia.
    
    The Blues A team play their Hurricanes counterparts in Wellington on Saturday at 1pm at Evans Bay.
    


  • @Duluth Finally Akira starts!

    With a bit Fatch fitness and BB coming back in a few weeks, thigs are looking up even more for your lot



  • HURRICANES TEAM NAMED FOR BLUES CLASH AT SKY STADIUM
    Thu 5th Mar

    Vince Aso will play his 50th game for the Hurricanes they get ready to face the Blues at Sky Stadium on Saturday.

    The Wellington-based Super Rugby team has made just two changes to its starting line-up, following a massive 62 – 15 win against the Sunwolves in Napier.

    Jordie Barrett coming back into the fold as fullback will be the only change made to the backline.

    Up front, Isaia Walker-Leawere gets the nod at lock ahead of James Blackwell who will start the game on the bench.

    Head coach, Jason Holland, says management is spoilt for choice when it comes to selection.

    “We have a competitive squad, with a lot of depth. When we sit down early in the week to discuss the line-up, we’re always faced with a challenge around who we pick and it’s natural that one or two will be disappointed.”

    TJ Perenara will once again take the role of captain, with Dane Coles named in the side but on the bench.

    Kobus Van Wyk has his second chance to shine at right wing, after a triumphant debut which saw him score three tries last weekend.

    His strength and speed are things Holland hopes to utilise this weekend.

    “If we can get our attacking game operating like it was last week, it should be quite an exciting game to watch. We cannot underestimate the Blues. They have some big boys up front and their defensive capability is solid. “

    The first NZ derby clash this week, coincides with the theme of Mana Moana – a celebration of Pacific and Maori culture alongside players past and present.

    Du’Plessis Kirifi, says it makes being selected to start as flanker even more special.

    “We’ve had some tough games but there’s nothing like playing another NZ team. They’re big, they’re physical and there’s a lot on the line each time we step on the field. It’s an added bonus knowing we’ll be celebrating our Pacific and Maori culture this week as well. I Can’t wait to run out under those lights in the yellow jersey.”

    The fans will also be treated to cultural performances, lei giveaways, moko painting and other Maori and Pacific celebrations.

    The Hurricanes team to take on the Blues at Sky Stadium is:

    15 Jordie Barrett

    14 Kobus Van Wyk

    13 Vince Aso

    12 Ngani Laumape

    11 Ben Lam

    10 Fletcher Smith

    9 TJ Perenara [C]

    8 Gareth Evans

    7 Du’Plessis Kirifi

    6 Vaea Fifita

    5 Scott Scrafton

    4 Isaia Walker-Leawere

    3 Tyrel Lomax

    2 Asafo Aumua

    1 Xavier Numia

    Reserves

    16 Dane Coles

    17 Pouri Rakete-Stones

    18 Alex Fidow

    19 James Blackwell

    20 Devan Flanders

    21 Jamie Booth

    22 Billy Proctor

    23 Wes Goosen



  • Looking at both those line-ups, this should be a cracking match



  • I think 100% of Canes fans will be glad to see Blackwell getting the pine job for this week, defs need a bigger team vs the Blues.

    Two cracking teams, looks like Jordie is covering flyhalf which could work wonders for us moving forward, means we can leave Marshall out. Probably would have had Tiatia ahead of Proctor.

    I wonder if it's the first time ever in Super Rugby that all players in the back three are over 1.90 metres.


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