A full strength NPC?



  • Super Rugby looks done the international window looks in danger.Maybe we are looking at a mitre 10 comp brought forward a month and extended with all the AB's playing.



  • @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Super Rugby looks done the international window looks in danger.Maybe we are looking at a mitre 10 comp brought forward a month and extended with all the AB's playing.

    Please refer to Positives Thread for this discussion πŸ™‚



  • @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Super Rugby looks done the international window looks in danger.Maybe we are looking at a mitre 10 comp brought forward a month and extended with all the AB's playing.

    The Poo with Smith and Cruden directing?



  • @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

    The Poo with Smith and Cruden directing?

    Smith-Cruden-Laumape-Thompson.

    Not bad.



  • @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Super Rugby looks done the international window looks in danger.Maybe we are looking at a mitre 10 comp brought forward a month and extended with all the AB's playing.

    It has been a while! Assuming he's not going back to Japan any time soon ... 🀩

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    Just not very keen on playing Canterbury, Wellington and Taranaki if this happens.



  • @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Super Rugby looks done the international window looks in danger.Maybe we are looking at a mitre 10 comp brought forward a month and extended with all the AB's playing.

    It has been a while! Assuming he's not going back to Japan any time soon ... 🀩

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    Just not very keen on playing Canterbury, Wellington and Taranaki if this happens.

    Yeah Brodie would need some Rugby plus Sam Whitelock would be back for Canterbury would make for a great comp.



  • @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Super Rugby looks done the international window looks in danger.Maybe we are looking at a mitre 10 comp brought forward a month and extended with all the AB's playing.

    The Poo with Smith and Cruden directing?

    That would be Awesome Sam Whitelock would be back for Canterbury would be interesting to put together potential cup teams with all the AB's playing .



  • @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Crucial said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Chris said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Super Rugby looks done the international window looks in danger.Maybe we are looking at a mitre 10 comp brought forward a month and extended with all the AB's playing.

    The Poo with Smith and Cruden directing?

    That would be Awesome Sam Whitelock would be back for Canterbury would be interesting to put together potential cup teams with all the AB's playing .

    Counties would get Laulala and Papalii.



  • Read to play for Counties again?



  • Can someone whip through the starting line-ups of Mitre 10 Cup teams if the AB's are available to play (That aren't on sabbatical etc)

    I have no idea who plays for who now?



  • @Hooroo said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Can someone whip through the starting line-ups of Mitre 10 Cup teams if the AB's are available to play (That aren't on sabbatical etc)

    I have no idea who plays for who now?

    nor do the players



  • @Hooroo See a probable Wellington side (below) - not too sure about other provinces though.

    1. Xavier Numia
    2. Asafo Aumua
    3. Alex Fidow
    4. James Blackwell
    5. Naitoa Ah Koui
    6. Vaea Fifita
    7. Du'Plessis Kirifi
    8. Ardie Savea
    9. TJ Perenara
    10. Jackson Garden-Bachop
    11. Ben Lam
    12. Peter Umaga-Jensen
    13. Vince Aso
    14. Wes Goosen
    15. Billy Proctor
    16. Dane Coles
    17. Kaliopasi Uluilakepa (any other suggestions?)
    18. Luke Chisholm (any other suggestions?)
    19. Taine Plumtree
    20. Teariki Ben-Nicholas
    21. Kemara Hauiti-Parapara / Isaac Bracewell
    22. Aiden Morgan / Ruben Love
    23. Connor Garden-Bachop


  • @Canes4life Coles starts every time.



  • @Bovidae I have Aumua starting because it feels like Coles is on his way out in the next year or so. I think he wants to be a teacher.



  • @Hooroo said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Can someone whip through the starting line-ups of Mitre 10 Cup teams if the AB's are available to play (That aren't on sabbatical etc)

    I have no idea who plays for who now?

    This is the most recent list of ABs and their provinces. + Frizell (Tasman).
    https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-squad-named-for-rugby-world-cup-2019



  • @Hooroo A Waikato team could look like this:

    1 Ayden Johnstone
    2 Samisoni Taukei’aho
    3 Josh Iosefa-Scott
    4 Samipeni Finau (Tucker being unavailable)
    5 Laghlan McWhannell
    6 Luke Jacobson
    7 Mitch Jacobson
    8 Simon Parker
    9 Xavier Roe
    10 Fletcher Smith
    11 Solomon Alaimalo
    12 Anton Lienert-Brown
    13 Quinn Tupaea
    14 Sevu Reece
    15 Damian McKenzie

    16 Anton Milne/Sam Cooper
    17 Ollie Norris
    18 Rob Cobb/George Dyer
    19 James Thompson/Hamilton Burr
    20 Jahrome Brown
    21 Raniera Takarangi/Carlos Price
    22 Rivez Reihana
    23 Bailyn Sullivan



  • Possible Auckland team:

    1 Alex Hodgman
    2 Leni Apisai?
    3 Angus Ta'avao
    4 Patrick Tuipulotu
    5 Jack Whetton
    6 Akira Ioane
    7 Blake Gibson
    8 Hoskins Sotutu
    9 Jonathan Ruru
    10 Harry Plummer
    11 Salesi Rayasi
    12 TJ Faiane
    13 Rieko Ioane
    14 Caleb Clarke
    15 Jordan Trainor

    16 Michael Lea
    17 Ezekiel Lindenmuth/Jared Adams
    18 Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    19 Scott Scrafton
    20 Adrian Choat/Waimana Riedlinger-Kapa
    21 Danny Tusitala/Taufa Funaki
    22 Zarn Sullivan
    23 Tanielu Telea/Tumua Manu

    Pretty decent team overall. Halfback is a major weakness though.



  • I suppose it will give other teams some hope of breaking the forthcoming Tasman dynasty! πŸ™‚

    Atu Moli
    Andrew Makalio
    Tyrel Lomax
    Quinten Strange
    PariPari Parkinson
    Shannon Frizell
    Sione Havili
    Ethan Blackadder
    Finlay Christie
    Mitch Hunt
    Leicester Faingaanuku
    Alex Nankivell
    Fetuli Paea
    Will Jordan
    David Havili

    Ryan Coxon
    Sam Moli
    Isaac Salmon
    Te Ahiwaru Cirikadaveta
    Jacob Norris
    Jack Grooby
    Tim O'Malley
    Tima Faingaanuku



  • @Chris-B Pretty much the same team as last season, but with less depth.



  • I've been waiting for @Stargazer to post our team! πŸ€”



  • @Dice Yeah - we'd have Moli, Frizell and Jack Grooby back - but, losing Wyatt, Tim Perry, Squire and Taufua. Not sure about Levi Aumua. I've left out Roach and Uchida.

    Possibility of Kane Hames?!!!



  • @Nepia Eh, you don't know the names of our players?

    We only have 2 ABs, so not much changing from last year.



  • Taking a stab at Canterbury’s 23:

    1. Joe Moody
    2. Codie Taylor
    3. Oli Jager
    4. Mitchell Dunshea
    5. Luke Romano
    6. Cullen Grace
    7. Tom Christie
    8. Whetu Douglas
    9. Mitchell Drummond
    10. Richie Mo’unga
    11. George Bridge
    12. Dallas McLeod
    13. Braydon Ennor
    14. Ngane Punivai
    15. Josh McKay
    16. Seb Siataga
    17. Daniel Leinert-Brown
    18. Fletcher Newell
    19. Sam Darry
    20. Reed Prinsep
    21. Ere Enari
    22. Brett Cameron
    23. Inga Finau


  • @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Nepia Eh, you don't know the names of our players?

    We only have 2 ABs, so not much changing from last year.

    I do, but you're usually on top of this stuff ... you know, Bucky might have returned from Japan, Hika returned from 3rd division Romanian rugby etc. πŸ˜‰

    @Chris-B You're going to have to rely on homegrown players to replace those players - Covid is like an NPC salary cap on you guys. 😜



  • @Nepia I'll help you out...

    9 Chris Eaton



  • @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Chris-B You're going to have to rely on homegrown players to replace those players - Covid is like an NPC salary cap on you guys. 😜

    How good will it be if, when the figures come out later this year, Tasman were the champions AND spent less than Hawkes Bay doing it! πŸ™‚



  • Possible Magpies line-up for 2020.

    Assumptions: Retallick and Weber available; Dixon staying for another season; May and O'Connor (based on him having an out-clause and being injured for most of the early SR season) retiring; the rumour about Taumalolo signing being correct.

    1 Sona Taumalolo
    2 Ash Dixon
    3 Pourie Rakete-Stones
    4 Brodie Retallick
    5 Michael Allardice*
    6 Devan Flanders
    7 Gareth Evans
    8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
    9 Brad Weber
    10 Lincoln McClutchie
    11 Sam McNicol
    12 Danny Toala
    13 Jonah Lowe
    14 Caleb Makene
    15 Tiaan Falcon

    16 Kianu Kereru-Symes
    17 Jason Long
    18 Joel Hintz
    19 Isaia Walker-Leawere
    20 Josh Kaifa
    21 Folau Fakatava
    22 Neria Fomai
    23 Mason Emerson

    *I rate IWL higher than Allardice, but I'd start Allardice because he and Retallick are an experienced combo.



  • @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Chris-B You're going to have to rely on homegrown players to replace those players - Covid is like an NPC salary cap on you guys. 😜

    How good will it be if, when the figures come out later this year, Tasman were the champions AND spent less than Hawkes Bay doing it! πŸ™‚

    I'm sure you could spend less than us when the players are on minimum NPC contracts but fat Crusaders ones.

    @Bovidae You're a bad bad bad bad man, luckily we have two awesome 9s at the moment, hell, I'd even take Ruru off the Blues/Akl, to keep their fans happy, over Eaton.



  • @Stargazer said in Super Rugby 2020:

    Possible Magpies line-up for 2020.

    Assumptions: Retallick and Weber available; Dixon staying for another season; May and O'Connor (based on him having an out-clause and being injured for most of the early SR season) retiring; the rumour about Taumalolo signing being correct.

    1 Sona Taumalolo
    2 Ash Dixon
    3 Pourie Rakete-Stones
    4 Brodie Retallick
    5 Michael Allardice*
    6 Devan Flanders
    7 Gareth Evans
    8 Marino Mikaele-Tu'u
    9 Brad Weber
    10 Lincoln McClutchie
    11 Sam McNicol
    12 Danny Toala
    13 Jonah Lowe
    14 Caleb Makene
    15 Tiaan Falcon

    16 Kianu Kereru-Symes
    17 Jason Long
    18 Joel Hintz
    19 Isaia Walker-Leawere
    20 Josh Kaifa
    21 Folau Fakatava
    22 Neria Fomai
    23 Mason Emerson

    *I rate IWL higher than Allardice, but I'd start Allardice because he and Retallick are an experienced combo.

    πŸ‘πŸ½

    Can't we find someone to replace Hintz? Buckman wont be back from overseas?

    Good loosie trio, even if there are three number 8s!

    I think Allardice is a better lock than IWL currently so think you've made the correct decision and IWL's impact for the bench will be awesome.



  • @Nepia Hmmm, a prop better than Hintz? Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe and Patrick Teddy are obviously in our academy, but I'm not sure they're ready. I was hoping for them to have a good club rugby season this year, so they could compete with Hintz for a spot, but now that the club season will be shorter, I'm not so sure. I seriously hope that they didn't sign Namatahi Waa for 2020, because he just isn't good enough.

    I'm not sure Bucky will make himself available and is still good enough to justify blocking the pathway of one of the younger players. Maybe instead of Fomai on the bench?



  • @Stargazer said in A full strength NPC?:

    @Nepia Hmmm, a prop better than Hintz? Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe and Patrick Teddy are obviously in our academy, but I'm not sure they're ready. I was hoping for them to have a good club rugby season this year, so they could compete with Hintz for a spot, but now that the club season will be shorter, I'm not so sure. I seriously hope that they didn't sign Namatahi Waa for 2020, because he just isn't good enough.

    I'm not sure Bucky will make himself available and is still good enough to justify blocking the pathway of one of the younger players. Maybe instead of Fomai on the bench?

    I was working on the presumption that we're assembling the best team that would land back due to Corona, so if Bucky's back he's in the team and starts, pushing Jonah to the wing.



  • Canterbury team would look like this

    1. Joe Moody
      2 Codie Taylor
      3 Michael Alaalatoa
      4 Michael Dunshea
      5 Sam Whitelock
      6 Cullen Grace
      7 Tom Christie
      8 Whetu Douglas
      9 Mitchell Drummond
      10 Richie Mo'unga
      11 George Bridge
      12 Dallas McLeod
      13 Braydon Ennor
      14 Ngane Punivai
      15 Josh McKay

    16 Daniel Leinart- Brown
    17 Brodie McAlister
    18 Ollie Jager
    19. Luke Romano
    20 Tom Sanders
    21 Ere Enari
    22 Brett Cameron
    23 Inga Finau

    plus in the squad
    Siate Tokolahi
    Isi Tunngafasi
    Harry Allen
    Billy Harmon
    Reed Prinseep
    Fergus Burke
    Sam Gilbert



  • @Nepia In that case, I'd have to drop Mason Emerson, who would lose his spot on the bench to Makene (because we need a midfielder on the bench - Fomai in this scenario - and Makene is better and more versatile than Emerson).



  • @Canes4life
    You missed a few Michael Alaalatoa,Isi Tunngafasi,Siate Tokolahi,Harry Allen,Brodie McAlister,Billy Harmon,Tom Sanders,Sam Whitelock Due back in June,Dallas Mcleod,



  • @Nepia said in A full strength NPC?:

    @Chris-B said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Nepia said in Super Rugby 2020:

    @Chris-B You're going to have to rely on homegrown players to replace those players - Covid is like an NPC salary cap on you guys. 😜

    How good will it be if, when the figures come out later this year, Tasman were the champions AND spent less than Hawkes Bay doing it! πŸ™‚

    I'm sure you could spend less than us when the players are on minimum NPC contracts but fat Crusaders ones.

    And, no doubt, the Crusaders have loads of money to throw at their squaddies, because all their ABs are on minimum Super contracts, but big fat All Black ones!

    Steve Tew is a genius! πŸ™‚



  • That Canterbury squad makes me horny.



  • @Bovidae More likely Canterbury Kieran Read is at home in Christchurch with his family and has no mitre 10 contract as on now.



  • @Chris All hypothetical. πŸ™‚

    OK, a blast from the past - North Island vs South Island.

    The qualifier is which school you went to (some went to more than one school), not where you were born or the province you now play for. All players fit and available for selection

    NORTH ISLAND
    1 Tu'ungafasi
    2 Taylor
    3 Laulala
    4 S Barrett
    5 Whitelock
    6 Jacobson
    7 Cane
    8 Savea
    9 Smith
    10 B Barrett
    11 Ioane
    12 Laumape
    13 Goodhue
    14 Reece
    15 J Barrett

    16 Coles
    17 Tu'inukuafe
    18 Ta'avao
    19 Tuipulotu
    20 Papalii
    21 Perenara
    22 Black
    23 Bridge

    SOUTH ISLAND
    1 Moody
    2 Dixon
    3 Moli
    4 Dunshea
    5 Retallick
    6 Grace
    7 Christie
    8 Blackadder
    9 Drummond
    10 Mo'unga
    11 Alaimalo
    12 Havili
    13 A Lienert-Brown
    14 Jordan
    15 McKenzie

    16 McAlister
    17 D Lienert-Brown
    18 Tokolahi
    19 Romano
    20 Harmon
    21 Grooby? @Chris-B
    22 Nankivell
    23 L Fainga'anuku

    There may be SI eligible players I have overlooked without checking all info.



  • For the NI team I would have G Evans instead of Papalii & Cruden instead of Black on the bench. Based on form I would have Tyrel Lomax in there aswell.



  • @Canes4life I thought about Lomax and it looks like he may have spent time at school in Welly. He could replace Ta'avao if eligible.


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