Coronavirus - Australia
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278 in vic today, every little drop helps
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@Kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
278 in vic today, every little drop helps
which is what I say as I open another bottle of wine
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@dogmeat said in Coronavirus - Australia:
but in general terms it seemed the harder the surface the longer it remains in viable quantities.
Which is what makes this somewhat puzzling:
"The virus could still be detected on stainless steel and plastic after 72 hours
No viable SARS-CoV-2 could be detected on a cardboard surface after 24 hours
No viable SARS-CoV-2 could be detected on a copper surface after four hours"Copper is a soft metal but surely harder than cardboard. Does it react somehow?
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@Snowy I wondered that - copper seems anomalous
Copper is known for killing microbes and has been shown to help limit the spread of E. coli, salmonella, and influenza.
According to Karrera Djoko, a biochemist and microbiologist at Durham University, when copper comes into contact with a germ, it has the ability to release reactive ions that puncture the exterior of the germ. The ions can then access the inside of the germ, affecting its genetic material.
Copper can also affect microbes in other ways. For instance, according to Michael Johnson, a microbiologist at the University of Arizona, metal ions are found in around 40% of proteins with known structures—and when copper works its way into a cell or a virus, it can displace other metal ions, which can inhibit or destroy proteins. "If 40% of your proteins don't work, you don't work," Johnson said.
The human immune system also utilizes copper to fight germs. Research suggests that certain immune cells, called macrophages, may be able to envelop and separate germs in an acidic "ball of death" chamber, which is then spiked with copper doses fatal to the germ, Johnson said.
According to Michael Schmidt, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the Medical University of South Carolina, copper's ability to fight viruses is like a "grenade." When the metal interacts with oxygen, it creates a very reactive molecule known as a free radical, which comes into contact with a virus and causes it to "literally explode," Schmidt said.EUREKA!! Scotch is distilled in Copper
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@dogmeat Be a good thing to make water pipes out of it then (plumbed in Scotch has certain appeal too). We're onto something here.
Actually I thought that copper piping was for expansion contraction reasons (freezing) so is the antimicrobial just a fluke bonus?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
278 in vic today, every little drop helps
Back up to 372 new cases and 14 deaths today
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@ACT-Crusader we're always going to have ups and downs I guess, trend still heading in the right direction, just want us to get more in line with the rest of the country
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@Kiwiwomble yeah it’s volatile. I like to look at the weekly number which has dropped considerably. We appear to be a long way off the rest of the country unfortunately.
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@ACT-Crusader 100%, its not happening is the next week or two...but whilst its trending down...its possible, was looking unlikely for a while there
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282 today but 25 deaths, i guess they're always going to lag behind the cases, good to see the trend
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222 in vic, lowest number in a month
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Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk said yesterday the Government had no intention of opening Queensland's borders to any state or territory that still had community transmission.
With thousands of coronavirus cases still being monitored in Victoria, many of which can be linked to community transmission, as well as an "accumulation of unsourced cases" in New South Wales, it could take months for those states to reach a point where they can show evidence of zero community transmission.
To further delay that timeline, Queensland's Chief Health Officer (CHO) Jeannette Young indicated states would need to be free of community transmission for one month before borders reopened, to allow for two incubation periods.
Ms Palaszczuk has said she expected a border reopening for Victoria was a shaky prospect this side of Christmas, barring some unforeseen minor miracle.
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@antipodean yeah, thats one of the really sad things, i know several people just aiming to be able to see family interstate or have a holiday over xmas...will be another blow to a lot of peoples mental health
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@Kiwiwomble said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@antipodean yeah, thats one of the really sad things, i know several people just aiming to be able to see family interstate or have a holiday over xmas...will be another blow to a lot of peoples mental health
Not to mention seeing family back in NZ
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christmas? fuck christmas, there is a chance that never happens.
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@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
christmas? fuck christmas, there is a chance that never happens.
Probably not. Santa wouldn't be able to quarantine for 14 days
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@canefan said in Coronavirus - Australia:
@mariner4life said in Coronavirus - Australia:
christmas? fuck christmas, there is a chance that never happens.
Probably not. Santa wouldn't be able to quarantine for 14 days
in each state.