Provincial Classics



  • Anybody know where I could get a copy of the DVD from a classic provincial game. Hawkes Bay against Wellington from 1982 for the Ranfurly Shield. What a game that was. Was at Eden Park in 1993 when the Bay challenged Auckland and got beaten 69/31 but again a great game which I also wouldn't mind getting a copy of.



  • I think the ultimate classic was the the Auckland team of the 80s taking the shield off Canterbury at Lancaster Park to start off their long shield run



  • @canefan Yes. That was a game and a half. 24/0 down at halftime, to come back and all but win . Plus of course Grizzs well chosen halftime words.



  • @Billsy111 said in Provincial Classics:

    @canefan Yes. That was a game and a half. 24/0 down at halftime, to come back and all but win . Plus of course Grizzs well chosen halftime words.

    That was a who's who of All Black rugby



  • Canterbury vs Waikato 1997 semi final is a game I'd like to watch again. I think it see-sawed quite a bit, and we came out on top. Angus Gardiner possibly mowed down a Waikato back who was in the clear. Maybe Tony Marsh.



  • @shark said in Provincial Classics:

    Canterbury vs Waikato 1997 semi final is a game I'd like to watch again. I think it see-sawed quite a bit, and we came out on top. Angus Gardiner possibly mowed down a Waikato back who was in the clear. Maybe Tony Marsh.

    Did Tony Marsh ever play for Waikato? He was a Counties dude.



  • @shark said in Provincial Classics:

    Canterbury vs Waikato 1997 semi final

    Marsh never played for Waikato.



  • @Billsy111 said in Provincial Classics:

    Anybody know where I could get a copy of the DVD from a classic provincial game. Hawkes Bay against Wellington from 1982 for the Ranfurly Shield. What a game that was. Was at Eden Park in 1993 when the Bay challenged Auckland and got beaten 69/31 but again a great game which I also wouldn't mind getting a copy of.

    Funny you are asking about that particular game as my flatmate and I were talking abhout iy just this morning. We were trying to come up with who played halfback for Hawkes Bay in that extremely unluck 13 - 12 loss this morning. We are sztill wondering who played inside Brian Morris that day.



  • @Higgins Paul Blake



  • @Billsy111 Thanks, I leny my collection of programmes to a mate about twenty five years ago and haven't got round to getting them back yet!



  • @Higgins Oh that's no good. Don't suppose you had the Bay v East Coast and Bay of Plenty from 1974.



  • Any rugby game from the 70s and 80s that was shown on TV would likely be in the TVNZ archives gathering dust. Sky has shown some of their classic NPC games in recent years and I recorded a couple that interested me.



  • @Bovidae
    Not sure about those two so can’t really give you an answer there. I do know I got round to recording every programme I had on a couple of sheets of paper many years back but have no idea where it might be now probably in the boxed that programmes were in when they got “lent”. I do know I was at Nelson Park in the 70s when the Bay beat the Coast by about eighty points so there might be one there if that was 1974. Have no recollection about BoP around that time. One day I might get round to retrieving the programmes, particularly the collection of the entire Shield reign ones!!!!!!!



  • @Higgins Yeah me too. I remember Mark Jones tearing the Coast defence apart a few times. The East Coast and Bay of Plenty from 1974 are what I need to complete the 1974 Hawkes Bay programmes. Been looking for ages. Willing to pay good coin for the buggers.



  • @Billsy111 East Coast in 1970 was 57/3. In 1974 it was 67/3. 74 was at McLean Park.



  • @Billsy111
    Probably must have been the 1970 game then as I do recall I was not very old at the time and now you mention it 57 – 3 does ring a bell. Definitely was not at McLean Park but that does not mean I don’t have one but might take another few years to find that out!



  • I've still never seen the game where the Bay lifted the shield in the mid-2000s...



  • Getting my games mixed up. We played Counties in the final but I don't think it was much of a game. The semi vs Waikato was a ripper I'm sure. Angus Gardiner definitely mowed down a back in one of those games to save a try though.



  • @mariner4life You can get the DVD of it from Matheson Sports International.



  • @shark OK I've just found some highlights of the 97 final. Tony Marsh broke through, was in the clear and was tackled by Leon MacDonald who was the last line. He managed to offload to Craig Glendinning who was a fairly small replacement flanker, but a fellow flanker nonetheless, and Gardiner had tracked back and brought him down. So not exactly Sattler on Byrne but a stirling effort and recognised as such by the commentary team, and the crowd who went bananas. Certainly a try-saver and at 19-3 and 42 mins in it could have got Counties back into it.



  • @Billsy111 said in Provincial Classics:

    @mariner4life You can get the DVD of it from Matheson Sports International.

    I don't own a DVD player



  • @shark said in Provincial Classics:

    Getting my games mixed up. We played Counties in the final but I don't think it was much of a game. The semi vs Waikato was a ripper I'm sure. Angus Gardiner definitely mowed down a back in one of those games to save a try though.

    Semi was amazing, vidiri was huge. I won a bunch of money on this new thing called sports betting, and town in Hamilton was absolutely heaving. The Outback went very close to running out of piss.



  • I went to a shield game at Eden Park in 79 I think it was that left an impression on me , I was about 17, Auckland had only just won it

    Auckland v Counties , Counties won, they had a team that was flying at the time, I was living in Auckland but had done most of my growing up in Counties area, there with my Auckland mates ,

    Those were the days where you could take your own Beer into the ground, chilli bins full of it , place was rocking,

    There were drunken punch ons out in the streets leaving the ground, spot fires breaking out everywhere ,like scenes from an old western movie with random knocked out bodies around the place, which wasnt much of a big deal then , different times thats for sure



  • @mariner4life said in Provincial Classics:

    @shark said in Provincial Classics:

    Getting my games mixed up. We played Counties in the final but I don't think it was much of a game. The semi vs Waikato was a ripper I'm sure. Angus Gardiner definitely mowed down a back in one of those games to save a try though.

    Semi was amazing, vidiri was huge. I won a bunch of money on this new thing called sports betting, and town in Hamilton was absolutely heaving. The Outback went very close to running out of piss.

    That game was awesome, that really was a game where one player made all the difference.

    Was that also back in the small Outback version, before they opened up the "eating" area?



  • The last 20 mins sucked. 😉

    I seem to remember that it was Marsh and Leaupepe that did the damage in the 2nd half.



  • @Bovidae said in Provincial Classics:

    The last 20 mins sucked. 😉

    I seem to remember that it was Marsh and Leaupepe that did the damage in the 2nd half.

    I was a neutral for that game so was just watching for the rugby. But it really did look like Waikato had it in the bag for a long time.



  • @Nepia

    Was that the one where the ground announcer said to the crowd to get their tickets for the final straight away (or something similar) during the second half because Waikato were so far in front?



  • Since we're on the Counties train, I went to a Lancaster Park Counties v Canterbury game in the late 1990's. Canterbury were up something like 23-0, but then Counties turned on a display of 'get the ball to Jonah and Joeli in space' and wound up winning 33-31 (from memory). Glorious - afternoon rugby, some fantastic tries, and a memorable game.

    ... and I just googled the hell out of that, and couldn't find any record of it. Does it live only in my memory? Anyone else remember that one?



  • The Counties team of the mid to late nineties was one of the great Counties teams. The best during my lifetime.



  • @nzzp said in Provincial Classics:

    Since we're on the Counties train, I went to a Lancaster Park Counties v Canterbury game in the late 1990's. Canterbury were up something like 23-0, but then Counties turned on a display of 'get the ball to Jonah and Joeli in space' and wound up winning 33-31 (from memory). Glorious - afternoon rugby, some fantastic tries, and a memorable game.

    ... and I just googled the hell out of that, and couldn't find any record of it. Does it live only in my memory? Anyone else remember that one?

    I managed to find this from what I think is the final round of the 1998 round robin which is probably what you are referring to?

    Score 49 - 42 Counties
    7 Tries – Vidiri (4), Lee, Lomu, Leaupepe; 7 Conversions – Crichton.
    Ref – G Wahlstrom



  • @mikedogz The early 80s team was very good too. I still recall the 20-20 draw with Waikato in a RS challenge in 1981. Rugby Park was so packed they let a bunch of us kids sit on the grass on the playing field side of the terrace.



  • That team would be the greatest era, before my time. Henk Habraken coached me at junior boys, played with John Spiers son and he bought dads wool. He loved it when I had a year playing for Pukekohe. A couple of my Mums Fowlie cousins had a few games with them in that era too.

    The third or fourth best era would be when we got the shield, gained promotion and made top four. Around the time Bundee Aki was coming through.

    Some handy players in the Era of Pat Walsh too.



  • @KiwiMurph said in Provincial Classics:

    @nzzp said in Provincial Classics:

    Since we're on the Counties train, I went to a Lancaster Park Counties v Canterbury game in the late 1990's. Canterbury were up something like 23-0, but then Counties turned on a display of 'get the ball to Jonah and Joeli in space' and wound up winning 33-31 (from memory). Glorious - afternoon rugby, some fantastic tries, and a memorable game.

    ... and I just googled the hell out of that, and couldn't find any record of it. Does it live only in my memory? Anyone else remember that one?

    I managed to find this from what I think is the final round of the 1998 round robin which is probably what you are referring to?

    Score 49 - 42 Counties
    7 Tries – Vidiri (4), Lee, Lomu, Leaupepe; 7 Conversions – Crichton.
    Ref – G Wahlstrom

    spot on, that sounds right. Do you have a link?

    That team of the mid to late 90s was sensational. It wasn't just the stars out there either - the front rowers (Lee LIdgard), Jim Coe at lock, Errol Brain at the back, Danny Lee at 9, Loki Crichton, the Marsh's and then wingers that were off the charts. Strong all over the place.

    Counties were my second team for ages, loved to see them play, loved the players. That dream run in 97 was incredible.



  • I felt that teams players should have gotten more recognition with more players in Super teams and All Blacks. In modern squads they would have. Glen Marsh was always a favourite player of mine.



  • @nzzp I think Blair Feeney was pretty key in that side. Don't forget the likes of Andrew Roose and Api Naevo too. Quality, quality side. Semi innovative with the uniform change too, even if it was a copy of the North Sydney Bears. Errol Brain was one of the best post game interviewees ever.



  • @shark yep, solid as anything.

    Nearly 25 years ago now though, makes me feel old.



  • @shark said in Provincial Classics:

    @nzzp I think Blair Feeney was pretty key in that side. Don't forget the likes of Andrew Roose and Api Naevo too. Quality, quality side. Semi innovative with the uniform change too, even if it was a copy of the North Sydney Bears. Errol Brain was one of the best post game interviewees ever.

    Agree with all this except for the uniform change, the old jersey was much better, the North Sydney Bears copy rivals that mythical Central Vikings jumper for ugliness.



  • @kiwiinmelb Counties didn't win. They never won the Shield until 2013.

    I was at that 79 game on the Terraces. It was the last game I saw in NZ for 13 years.

    Akl had only just lifted the Shield from North Auckland and had to face the challenge of Counties in their first defence. Counties were undefeated for the season and had been crowned NPC champs .

    EP was packed (50K in those days) on a fine spring day. First half was attritional but Counties took a deserved 3-0 lead into the break.

    Akl pack stated to assert dominance in the second half before Counties broke out from inside their 22 and scored from a speculative kick helped in large measure by the ref inadvertently obstructing the Akl cover defender. 9-0 to Counties.

    However Akl took control of the game and the much vaunted and popular Counties side choked. They started putting balls out on the full, missing tackles etc but with 15 minutes to go Akl still hadn't converted the pressure into a score. They then scored a couple of unconverted tries. One to Farrell can't remember the other. 9-8 Counties. Less than 5 minutes to go and inexplicably Counties tried to run it from under their own posts and got nailed. Penalised at the resulting ruck. 11-9 Akl.

    Cue much jubilation in the stands and on the pitch (well for half the crowd) and a very, very big night.



  • @Nepia said in Provincial Classics:

    @shark said in Provincial Classics:

    @nzzp I think Blair Feeney was pretty key in that side. Don't forget the likes of Andrew Roose and Api Naevo too. Quality, quality side. Semi innovative with the uniform change too, even if it was a copy of the North Sydney Bears. Errol Brain was one of the best post game interviewees ever.

    Agree with all this except for the uniform change, the old jersey was much better, the North Sydney Bears copy rivals that mythical Central Vikings jumper for ugliness.

    I didn't say it was better. I said it was "semi innovative".



  • @shark said in Provincial Classics:

    @Nepia said in Provincial Classics:

    @shark said in Provincial Classics:

    @nzzp I think Blair Feeney was pretty key in that side. Don't forget the likes of Andrew Roose and Api Naevo too. Quality, quality side. Semi innovative with the uniform change too, even if it was a copy of the North Sydney Bears. Errol Brain was one of the best post game interviewees ever.

    Agree with all this except for the uniform change, the old jersey was much better, the North Sydney Bears copy rivals that mythical Central Vikings jumper for ugliness.

    I didn't say it was better. I said it was "semi innovative".

    I don't think making something uglier is semi innovative. 😉


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