Chiefs v Blues



  • @Tim said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @Machpants Apparently Robinson is going to be out for a few weeks, unfortunately.

    Poop



  • Tom has a meniscus tear ,which needs a clean up .and Blake a hamstring tear.I doubt we’ll see much of them for the next 6 games.



  • @Tim said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @Jailbreak7 Maybe he's distracted by his big money 2021 coaching job with the Lions?

    If his focus is actually on 2020, that’d be pretty damning.

    The forwards are out muscled and the backs are disjointed, but apart from that he’s doing an okay job...



  • @Donsteppa There's got to be a couple of locks he could draft in. Sam Caird, Tom Parsons, or Ben Nee-Nee?



  • @trodthesod And a lot of penalties we're giving away are due to our over-eagerness at breakdown more than anything. It should be an easy fix but it's 2 weeks in a row now so hopefully it gets sorted quickly.





  • @KiwiMurph said in Chiefs v Blues:

    What the hell was up with Weber's kicking? Was not a good look.

    He was poor overall. The replacement halfback for the Chiefs was a marked improvement I thought.



  • @ACT-Crusader Yep I thought so too - on both counts. The young HB brought some edge.
    Cruden looked dangerous every time he touched the ball - straightened the attack and when he did that, we looked good. Tupaea was good in patches, but lost the ball in contact too many times.



  • @African-Monkey said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @trodthesod And a lot of penalties we're giving away are due to our over-eagerness at breakdown more than anything. It should be an easy fix but it's 2 weeks in a row now so hopefully it gets sorted quickly.

    Players not keeping their feet has been a feature of the first two rounds so far.



  • @ACT-Crusader With that in mind, maybe we should revisit the wrestling techniques that Henry favored. All about centre of gravity and positioning.



  • @Jailbreak7 said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @ACT-Crusader Yep I thought so too - on both counts. The young HB brought some edge.
    Cruden looked dangerous every time he touched the ball - straightened the attack and when he did that, we looked good. Tupaea was good in patches, but lost the ball in contact too many times.

    Cruden is a quality player, but that 10/12/13 combination just wasn’t working tonight. Blues forward momentum made it difficult for large parts of the game, but even when Cruden took on the line he didn’t have the bodies in motion outside him to cause any real damage.



  • @ACT-Crusader Agreed. Absence of any attacking plays were noticeable tonight - disappointing. The coaches box looked pretty flat. too Would have thought Randle might have brought some fresh ideas. to the party





  • @Tim said in Chiefs v Blues:

    What a pass! The Chief fella thought for quite a while the interecept was on, but pass was inch perfect! 😍



  • Clever performance by the Blues in the rain. Strong backrow defensive effort. Patrick Tuipulotu playing the best Rugby of his career. Akira Ioane showing discipline and focus. Dalton Papali'i has improved since last season. Hoskins Sotutu and Caleb Clarke should be in the next ABs squad.



  • @Hooroo said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Me and a mate have put our betting voucher on the blues head to head and blue 12 and under. It was getting up there too.

    Paid



  • @sparky said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Clever performance by the Blues in the rain. Strong backrow defensive effort. Patrick Tuipulotu playing the best Rugby of his career. Akira Ioane showing discipline and focus. Dalton Papali'i has improved since last season. Hoskins Sotutu and Caleb Clarke should be in the next ABs squad.

    You had me at Clever. Great shift by the tighties, can't wait to sit down and watch the game properly



  • @Tim said in Chiefs v Blues:

    That pass from Sotutu for Talea's try was a blinder. Off the left hand.

    Is he left handed?



  • @voodoo said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @ACT-Crusader said in Chiefs v Blues:

    DMac hasn’t had the greatest game today but you can’t doubt the guys fearlessness. Man he takes on the line, gets smashed but gets straight back up.

    I love him for his courage , it’s easy to forget how little he is

    Shit, nobody doubts his courage! I used to play subbies with a legend of a bloke, played mostly wing but a bit of 15 too. Can't have weighed more than 70kgs, but was fearless. Threw himself into everything, no respect for his body whatsoever.

    I loved the guy.

    But I want him about as close as Dmac to a fucking All Black jumper.

    I wasn’t talking all black selection,

    Just admiring his courage,

    But there have been plenty of players I have enjoyed watching play ,that I didn’t want them in the Allblacks either .

    Lelia masaga was a classic example



  • Having suffered much criticism over a long time,I would like to commend James Parsons games this year.He seems of recent games to be taking himself out of those channels where he gets hammered backwards.His lineout throwing top class and good carries.Well done that man! He more than any player must be enjoying the Blues resurgence.



  • @trodthesod he seems to have cut a bit of Richie's cloak. He "clears" a lot of rucks by going head first into the ground beyond them but it's working!



  • @trodthesod great call fella,

    I think he (like the team) are just doing their core roles. Parsons doesn't need to be a ball carrier in this team, just has to hit his lineout targets, push in the scrum, and get around the field on defence. It's when you get asked to go outside the stuff you can succeed at that things go pear shaped.

    Hell of a decent human being by the look, and I agree - stoked for him and this Blues team. We have just stopped being the undisciplined rabble that's been killing us for so long. They are a proper team, and I'm stoked for them.



  • @Tim given Caird is from Waikato originally too, looks to have bulked up, presumably through his training with Blues this season.



  • I only had one eye on the game as we had something else on but it looked to me like the Chiefs weren't nearly clinical enough after creating opportunities and then gambled on catch up rugby.
    I would have thought that Gatland would bring a more clinical element to their game.
    Well deserved win by the Blues.



  • @nzzp said in Chiefs v Blues:

    @trodthesod great call fella,

    I think he (like the team) are just doing their core roles. Parsons doesn't need to be a ball carrier in this team, just has to hit his lineout targets, push in the scrum, and get around the field on defence. It's when you get asked to go outside the stuff you can succeed at that things go pear shaped.

    Hell of a decent human being by the look, and I agree - stoked for him and this Blues team. We have just stopped being the undisciplined rabble that's been killing us for so long. They are a proper team, and I'm stoked for them.

    I’ve heard him speak a few times on radio sport ,

    Seems like a real decent guy with a great sense of humour, quite insightful with his analysis,

    After hearing him talk about the game you get the sense his limitations are physical ones , not between the ears



  • @kiwiinmelb said in Chiefs v Blues:

    After hearing him talk about the game you get the sense his limitations are physical ones , not between the ears

    Might make a good coach in the future.



  • Parsons lineout throwing in the wet was outstanding.

    I think it helps a lot that he isn't saddled with the burden of captaincy.



  • @KiwiMurph said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Parsons lineout throwing in the wet was outstanding.

    I think it helps a lot that he isn't saddled with the burden of captaincy.

    I've got reserved seats on the Parson's hate train, but he had a good game last night.



  • Parsons used to have a spot on RS last year speaking to Darcy and Goran, he certainly comes across very well and knows the game.

    Last year the Blues still used him as a carrier despite having other bigger carriers, but the load seems to be put elsewhere leaving him to just do what he does well, but if he is called upon to mix it up, he doesnt back down, and despite plenty of times he doesnt make the gain line, doesnt often get turned over either...similarly on defence, he wont make the big hits, but still makes his tackles.



  • Was good to see the boys in blue supporting the boys in blue.

    Very unfortunate that someone called Matthew Dennis Hunt, Michael Hunt though.



  • Enjoyable game to watch.

    Best parts for me a the exits after we score are clinical. Super organised on defence and we play with structure.

    Forwards are very, very impressive. Patrick is playing the rugby of his career, I love that he’s even more effective late in games. The nutrition tweak has helped him enormously.

    Sotutu seems like a no brainer to try at eight for the All Blacks.

    Akira has a very good return. He played a similar game around the field as Robinson last week, so good to see him slot in seamlessly to the team. Beast on defence, and all our loose forwards are working hard.

    Not great conditions for the backs, some nice touches there and they looked after the Chiefs backs pretty comfortably.

    Corner has officially been turned.

    And the second week in a row we took the ref out of the game. Frustrating inconsistency in the application there. All I want as a fan is predictability, so if you see someone leave their feet you know they will be pinged.

    What we are seeing is one team will get pinged for that, and the other not. Then it swaps, or they stop being strict anymore.



  • Like the look of young fella, Tupaea. Good head on his shoulders.



  • @pakman said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Like the look of young fella, Tupaea. Good head on his shoulders.

    Easy to forget his young age with the way he plays. Slightly rough but you can see a smart rugby head similar to how Goodhue was.



  • When the camera panned the Chiefs’coaching box,seats looked hard to come by,but in the Blues‘ box sat the most successful Chiefs’forwards coach in their history.Funny that.



  • @trodthesod I've been a Coventry fan since his days at Hawke's Bay, and I was very excited when we signed him, but I almost lost faith in him when our pack looked quite average last season, but this season he's proven that he's still got the Midas touch.

    Anyone who can fix our maul defense is a miracle worker. He's also given us a sharp set-piece(at least when Eklund isn't throwing in the line-out). I guess Ben Afeaki deserves a bit of credit too.



  • Yes agree Ben Afeaki has to be acknowledged. In fact from the CEO down things are looking good.Still have to keep our feet on the ground.The media will be in like jackals at their first stumble.Over the years the Blues have been the butt of their derision.,and in a lot of ways it has been self fulfilling.



  • @trodthesod said in Chiefs v Blues:

    Yes agree Ben Afeaki has to be acknowledged. In fact from the CEO down things are looking good.Still have to keep our feet on the ground.The media will be in like jackals at their first stumble.Over the years the Blues have been the butt of their derision.,and in a lot of ways it has been self fulfilling.

    We aren’t going to win every game, but it is nice to see the old mistakes no longer being made.



  • With no finals this year ,

    And the blues playing the crusaders in the last round at eden park,

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if the winner of this game, is the winner of the comp, so in effect, we do get a final



  • @kiwiinmelb said in Chiefs v Blues:

    With no finals this year ,

    And the blues playing the crusaders in the last round at eden park,

    Wouldn’t it be awesome if the winner of this game, is the winner of the comp, so in effect, we do get a final

    Was just looking at the draw for the first time. That looks hands down what will happen.

    Chiefs are away to Canterbury this weekend, so that will be a hiding. I think the Highlanders were made to look adequate by the Chiefs but it will be a shootout for last place between, Chiefs, Canes and Highlanders.



  • An important factor in this competition will be the bonus point accrual.The Crusaders away to a flying start in this department.Eight extra points available with the three tries clear win,so that is an equation teams in contention will have to be aware of.


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