Top Ferners underrated players



    1. Ben May. I just don't understand the hate for this long serving prop. Stupid penalties at times but solid in most phases.
    2. Jamie Booth. He's been excellent for the Canes this year.
    3. Ollie Norris. Not a single word on him after the Chiefs games in which he took part. Was OK against Lomax last Saturday. Remember he has just turned 20 so definitely a promising youngster.
    4. Ah Kuoi. In my view, he was the best Chiefs player in their tight five this year.
    5. Dillon Hunt. Consistently very good for the Landers. Better than Kirifi who does not know how to make a pass but who has the love of most Ferners.


  • Ollie Norris went better than i thought he would. he struggled at npc last year. found it hard against the blues when thompson was at lock but held his own against the hurricanes.
    Ah Kuoi and slater by end of season were the two positives that came out of the season. would add Vaai to that as well



  • @cgrant said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    1. Ben May. I just don't understand the hate for this long serving prop. Stupid penalties at times but solid in most phases.
    2. Jamie Booth. He's been excellent for the Canes this year.
    3. Ollie Norris. Not a single word on him after the Chiefs games in which he took part. Was OK against Lomax last Saturday. Remember he has just turned 20 so definitely a promising youngster.
    4. Ah Kuoi. In my view, he was the best Chiefs player in their tight five this year.
    5. Dillon Hunt. Consistently very good for the Landers. Better than Kirifi who does not know how to make a pass but who has the love of most Ferners.

    Oh great, another Crusader-hate thread...



  • For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.



  • Who decides who is a 'Top Ferner'? Or is there a criteria - Is it post count, time in the forum, what?



  • Reed Prinsep - He's no world beater but solid enough and does a decent enough job. The hate for him is ridicuous on here mainly from Wellington and Hawke's Bay fans as they're moaning that one of their own hasn't been picked ahead of him.

    Gerard Cowley-Tuioti - A bit too small to make the international scene but he's been very reliable for the last 4 years where he is strong around the field especially in the contact area and a safe bet at line out time.

    Sione Mafileo - One of the best scrummaging tightheads in the country who like Cowley-Tuioti, goes under the radar. Probably lacks a bit around the field to really stand out to the public and make the next level, but he's outstanding at scrum time and good to have come on as the Blues don't lose anything at set piece time.

    Sean Wainui - Not one of the big names at the Chiefs but he's probably been the best for the Chiefs (aling with Ah Kuoi) this year.



  • @Machpants said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Who decides who is a 'Top Ferner'? Or is there a criteria - Is it post count, time in the forum, what?

    I think @Nepia does



  • @ACT-Crusader The Mitre 10 Cup in 2018 really turned his career around. Umaga certainly didn't rate him before that (playing Rieko at 12 for the Blues ahead of him). Injuries didn't help earlier in his career but in the last year or 2 he's looked to play a lot more direct to go with his ball playing ability despite his lack of size.



  • @ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @cgrant said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    1. Ben May. I just don't understand the hate for this long serving prop. Stupid penalties at times but solid in most phases.
    2. Jamie Booth. He's been excellent for the Canes this year.
    3. Ollie Norris. Not a single word on him after the Chiefs games in which he took part. Was OK against Lomax last Saturday. Remember he has just turned 20 so definitely a promising youngster.
    4. Ah Kuoi. In my view, he was the best Chiefs player in their tight five this year.
    5. Dillon Hunt. Consistently very good for the Landers. Better than Kirifi who does not know how to make a pass but who has the love of most Ferners.

    Oh great, another Crusader-hate thread...

    Liar. Ben May is from the Crusaders region.



  • @ACT-Crusader said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    For what it’s worth, I didn’t really rate TJ Faiane but the positive difference to the Blues set up and play was very noticeable when he was on the field as opposed to when he was out.

    A genuine second five-eighth.



  • Jamie Booth was the head-turner for me

    Also liked the work of Ayden Johnstone, Michael Collins, Josh Mackay, Quinton Strange, Cowley-Tuioti, Telea and Eklund from Blues and Boshier, Ah Kuoi and Vaai from Chiefs.



  • Tony Lamborn has been a good signing for the Blues. Low error rate, physical, handy with ball in hand.



  • @cgrant said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    1. Ben May. I just don't understand the hate for this long serving prop. Stupid penalties at times but solid in most phases.
    2. Jamie Booth. He's been excellent for the Canes this year.
    3. Ollie Norris. Not a single word on him after the Chiefs games in which he took part. Was OK against Lomax last Saturday. Remember he has just turned 20 so definitely a promising youngster.
    4. Ah Kuoi. In my view, he was the best Chiefs player in their tight five this year.
    5. Dillon Hunt. Consistently very good for the Landers. Better than Kirifi who does not know how to make a pass but who has the love of most Ferners.

    I must have missed the hate for Ben May. Hes been almost a key player for the Canes with the injuries etc.
    Ah Kuoi. Hes young still. And he made the team then was injured. But looked promising for wellington last year

    Another Canes player that is often underrated is Goosen. Fast and a good defender and 1st rate decision making

    Re Prinsep. He was poorish in the first two losses but was much better as the team improved



  • @KiwiMurph said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Tony Lamborn has been a good signing for the Blues. Low error rate, physical, handy with ball in hand.

    Yep, he's much better now than when he was with the Magpies.



  • @Winger Haha Ben May cops plenty on here.



  • @African-Monkey said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @Winger Haha Ben May cops plenty on here.

    He's going to cop less now that he doesn't play for the Magpies Mrs Prinsep.



  • @African-Monkey said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Sione Mafileo - One of the best scrummaging tightheads in the country who like Cowley-Tuioti, goes under the radar. Probably lacks a bit around the field to really stand out to the public and make the next level, but he's outstanding at scrum time and good to have come on as the Blues don't lose anything at set piece time.

    His fitness and general play have come on this year. Doesn't get caught out in defence now.



  • @Nepia Ha! I do feel that the criticism directed towards Ben May is justified though. He's gone a bit better though this year by his standards.



  • James Blackwell.

    Incredible for a midget



  • @African-Monkey said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @Nepia Ha! I do feel that the criticism directed towards Ben May is justified though. He's gone a bit better though this year by his standards.

    Some of the issue with May for Magpies fans, aside from his upright running and tendency to look like he split in half sometimes in the scrum was that he was clearly a Hurricanes placement rather than a Magpies sourced player ... like Ben Thug Brother Franks was back in the day (great player, never really looked like he was keen on playing for the Magpies) ... which doesn't help when there was an only 3 Magpies in the Canes limit. 😉



  • This thread is not for Hurricanes fans



  • George Bridge, gets a lot of stick on here, sure he's not Jonah Lomu or Doug Howlett, but he is a Test quality winger and rated No 1 in NZ by his peers.



  • Caleb Trask should be an AB.



  • @mariner4life said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    This thread is not for Hurricanes fans

    And the Broken Record of all time award goes to.......



  • @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @mariner4life said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    This thread is not for Hurricanes fans

    And the Broken Record of all time award goes to.......

    On here? I'm actually proud of that.



  • @ARHS said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Jamie Booth was the head-turner for me

    Also liked the work of Ayden Johnstone, Michael Collins, Josh Mackay, Quinton Strange, Cowley-Tuioti, Telea and Eklund from Blues and Boshier, Ah Kuoi and Vaai from Chiefs.

    Collins at centre is a revelation compared to his fullback displays.

    Eklund has taken his opportunity this year (and has obviously been working on his throwing).



  • @cgrant said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    1. Dillon Hunt. Consistently very good for the Landers. Better than Kirifi who does not know how to make a pass but who has the love of most Ferners.

    Agree with this. Dillion Hunt is consistently fab but doesn't get much praise from the pundits or the Fern.



  • @African-Monkey said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @Winger Haha Ben May cops plenty on here.

    Mainly from me. 😂



  • @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    George Bridge, gets a lot of stick on here, sure he's not Jonah Lomu or Doug Howlet, but he is a Test quality winger and rated No 1 in NZ by his peers.

    Are those peers from Christchurch?



  • @antipodean If that survey was legit, then it was probably just the Crusaders, who were most prominently mentioned. As Ben O'Keefe was ranked the best referee, I suspect it was made up.



  • @African-Monkey said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Gerard Cowley-Tuioti - A bit too small to make the international scene but he's been very reliable for the last 4 years where he is strong around the field especially in the contact area and a safe bet at line out time.

    Maybe it's because the Blues are winning more and playing better so I'm watching them more closely, but Gerald Cowley-Tuioti has really impressed me this year: works hard, high accuracy rate, great awareness of what is going on around him, makes good decisions.



  • Jordie Barrett used to get way too much criticism on the Fern but has silenced his critics with a string if superb performances in Super Rugby Aotearoa. Think he's one of the most skilled players I've seen. Hope he sticks with the Canes for many seasons to come.



  • @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Jordie Barrett used to get way too much criticism on the Fern but has silenced his critics with a string if superb performances in Super Rugby Aotearoa. Think he's one of the most skilled players I've seen. Hope he stick with the Canes for many seasons to come.

    Wtf does that have to do with an underrated players thread?



  • @Bones said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Jordie Barrett used to get way too much criticism on the Fern but has silenced his critics with a string if superb performances in Super Rugby Aotearoa. Think he's one of the most skilled players I've seen. Hope he stick with the Canes for many seasons to come.

    Wtf does that have to do with an underrated players thread?

    I think if he improves his composure he could be an All Time great, yet until recently there were posters on the Fern suggesting he should be way down the pecking order.



  • @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @Bones said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Jordie Barrett used to get way too much criticism on the Fern but has silenced his critics with a string if superb performances in Super Rugby Aotearoa. Think he's one of the most skilled players I've seen. Hope he stick with the Canes for many seasons to come.

    Wtf does that have to do with an underrated players thread?

    I think if he improves his composure he could be an All Time great, yet until recently there were posters on the Fern suggesting he should be way down the pecking order.

    Yeah and rightly so, as his play reflected he should be well down the pecking order. Now that he's improved his play, he's rated accordingly with most having him starting - funny that!

    He'd be listed at about last on a list of underrated players.



  • @ARHS said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Also liked the work of Ayden Johnstone, Michael Collins, Josh Mackay, Quinton Strange, Cowley-Tuioti, Telea and Eklund from Blues and Boshier, Ah Kuoi and Vaai from Chiefs.

    Aidan Ross, Bradley Slater, Lachlan Boshier (and Sam Cane) were all consistently superb for the Chiefs this year. The 0-8 season record doesn't do their efforts justice.



  • @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Ayden Johnstone

    Doesn't play for the Chiefs.



  • The dude with the blonde golliwog hair came back well after that terrible performance he had in one of his early starts.



  • @Bones said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @Bones said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    @sparky said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    Jordie Barrett used to get way too much criticism on the Fern but has silenced his critics with a string if superb performances in Super Rugby Aotearoa. Think he's one of the most skilled players I've seen. Hope he stick with the Canes for many seasons to come.

    Wtf does that have to do with an underrated players thread?

    I think if he improves his composure he could be an All Time great, yet until recently there were posters on the Fern suggesting he should be way down the pecking order.

    Yeah and rightly so, as his play reflected he should be well down the pecking order. Now that he's improved his play, he's rated accordingly with most having him starting - funny that!

    He'd be listed at about last on a list of underrated players.

    Some of thought he always had the skills to become very good indeed and could become still much better. There is too much lazy group think and knee-jerk judgement about certain players by some regular posters on here.



  • @Nepia said in Top Ferners underrated players:

    The dude with the blonde golliwog hair came back well after that terrible performance he had in one of his early starts.

    Racist.

    Nothing flash, but did a job fairly adequately I guess. Not bad for a young fella in his first year.


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