So anybody relocated a house?



  • Any tips or advice welcome.

    I have 3 months to move this thing from Greenlane to Pakiri and it is becoming obvious that it is all rather complex. I have a resource consent for the property - so just the building consent, retaining wall, earthworks, driveway, insurance, architect, foundations, builder, glazier, roofer and insulation to go. Apart from the cutting and moving of course.

    What have I forgotten?



  • ..took longer then I expected but here we are.

    Sorry, I have nothing useful to add.



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Any tips or advice welcome.

    I have 3 months to move this thing from Greenlane to Pakiri and it is becoming obvious that it is all rather complex. I have a resource consent for the property - so just the building consent, retaining wall, earthworks, driveway, insurance, architect, foundations, builder, glazier, roofer and insulation to go. Apart from the cutting and moving of course.

    What have I forgotten?

    Some Reality TV show to follow your progress?



  • @Virgil Nice idea, but they always end up going broke and living in a caravan with the wife getting pregnant.

    I'm also camera shy, for obvious reasons with my rep around here.



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Any tips or advice welcome.

    I have 3 months to move this thing from Greenlane to Pakiri and it is becoming obvious that it is all rather complex. I have a resource consent for the property - so just the building consent, retaining wall, earthworks, driveway, insurance, architect, foundations, builder, glazier, roofer and insulation to go. Apart from the cutting and moving of course.

    What have I forgotten?

    Tunnels and Bunkers



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Any tips or advice welcome.

    I have 3 months to move this thing from Greenlane to Pakiri and it is becoming obvious that it is all rather complex. I have a resource consent for the property - so just the building consent, retaining wall, earthworks, driveway, insurance, architect, foundations, builder, glazier, roofer and insulation to go. Apart from the cutting and moving of course.

    What have I forgotten?

    Storm water?? I know someone that just purchased a section and the stormwater drains were on there for road collection and he has had to put in a collection tank.



  • @Crucial said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Any tips or advice welcome.

    I have 3 months to move this thing from Greenlane to Pakiri and it is becoming obvious that it is all rather complex. I have a resource consent for the property - so just the building consent, retaining wall, earthworks, driveway, insurance, architect, foundations, builder, glazier, roofer and insulation to go. Apart from the cutting and moving of course.

    What have I forgotten?

    Tunnels and Bunkers

    You don't tell people about those.



  • @Hooroo said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Any tips or advice welcome.

    I have 3 months to move this thing from Greenlane to Pakiri and it is becoming obvious that it is all rather complex. I have a resource consent for the property - so just the building consent, retaining wall, earthworks, driveway, insurance, architect, foundations, builder, glazier, roofer and insulation to go. Apart from the cutting and moving of course.

    What have I forgotten?

    Storm water?? I know someone that just purchased a section and the stormwater drains were on there for road collection and he has had to put in a collection tank.

    A helpful suggestion. Quite a standout.

    Yep got the drainage and sewage sorted. It's 22 acres and wastewater is in the resource consent so hopefully will be O.K. but I have been known to get a bit upset with council over this stuff.



  • It’s heading out to Leigh?



  • @Virgil Past Leigh.Northern side of the ridge looking up to Whangarei over Pakiri.



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Hooroo said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Any tips or advice welcome.

    I have 3 months to move this thing from Greenlane to Pakiri and it is becoming obvious that it is all rather complex. I have a resource consent for the property - so just the building consent, retaining wall, earthworks, driveway, insurance, architect, foundations, builder, glazier, roofer and insulation to go. Apart from the cutting and moving of course.

    What have I forgotten?

    Storm water?? I know someone that just purchased a section and the stormwater drains were on there for road collection and he has had to put in a collection tank.

    A helpful suggestion. Quite a standout.

    Yep got the drainage and sewage sorted. It's 22 acres and wastewater is in the resource consent so hopefully will be O.K. but I have been known to get a bit upset with council over this stuff.

    Nice!

    This isn't that helpful but a friend transported a house from Whanganui to here on the farm at Matamata and completely did it up. High ceilings, timber floors massive open kitchen to dining to living and fireplace. It is the loveliest home I know and I love going there for dinner parties.

    As soon as I read your post, that is what I imagined.

    While I don't know how much it all cost, I worked out in my head they probably could have built it from scratch and just made it look historical.



  • I see that VDSL coverage is OK around Pakiri (near town) which will be because there is probably backhaul fibre to the school which has been connected to an upgraded cabinet.
    Should a fibre connection be desired you may want to check with Chorus as if the fibre going to the school passes you on your side of the road you can possibly pay to tap into it.
    If you check this out before putting other utilities in it could worth doing as the same trench work could be used.



  • Utilities? when we rebuilt after the chch earthquake our builder said vodafone would connect the house to the road...vodafone said the chorus would do it...chorus said the builder would...ended up digging a 30m trench myself and paying a sparky to run a duct and cable out to the road...was annoying!



  • @Kiwiwomble said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Utilities? when we rebuilt after the chch earthquake our builder said vodafone would connect the house to the road...vodafone said the chorus would do it...chorus said the builder would...ended up digging a 30m trench myself and paying a sparky to run a duct and cable out to the road...was annoying!

    Chorus only does the first 15metres and will do it the cheapest and quickest way (as the govt picks up the cost)



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Virgil Past Leigh.Northern side of the ridge looking up to Whangarei over Pakiri.

    Good luck with that, I work in Silverdale. Have visited up there and the Matakana/Omaha/etc region hundreds of times over the years .. nice windy roads... of course you have to get through the worse intersection in NZ as well, though maybe you can avoid Warkworth?

    Shit just realised you can hunt me down where I work.



  • @Crucial they wouldn't even do that, told us they would only do the stuff on the road



  • @Kiwiwomble said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Crucial they wouldn't even do that, told us they would only do the stuff on the road

    Yeah. Should have said 'up to 15m' not 'first 15m'.



  • @Virgil I already knew where you were, it's just that I'm busy relocating a house. I'll call before I visit.

    Yep, shitty roads but those trailers are bloody incredible feats of engineering. Hydraulic jacks to raise and lower and they can basically make them go sideways with steerable wheels. They are taking the roof off too, so height isn't such an issue.

    Can't avoid Warkworth, but Hill street will be O.K at 3 am and they will close it off to get through.

    The mover has been doing this for 40 years so I have some confidence, and he has said "yeah, will make it work" after seeing the route and they have been past Leigh before so fingers crossed.



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Virgil I already knew where you were, it's just that I'm busy relocating a house. I'll call before I visit.

    Yep, shitty roads but those trailers are bloody incredible feats of engineering. Hydraulic jacks to raise and lower and they can basically make them go sideways with steerable wheels. They are taking the roof off too, so height isn't such an issue.

    Can't avoid Warkworth, but Hill street will be O.K at 3 am and they will close it off to get through.

    The mover has been doing this for 40 years so I have some confidence, and he has said "yeah, will make it work" after seeing the route and they have been past Leigh before so fingers crossed.

    He probably meant some part of your house will make it up there, just not all of it..



  • @Hooroo said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    While I don't know how much it all cost, I worked out in my head they probably could have built it from scratch and just made it look historical.

    You can't, cost wise. I have spent a fortune on an architect (2 actually) and new building costs are ridiculous so I would have been looking at $2m to develop this and not under capitalise on the land.

    I will have one hell of a lot more cash to spend on it this way, and I own a renovation and decor business. That helps.



  • @Virgil Matakana Link road has been fast tracked . Hopefully ready not long after Puhoi - Warkworth. Will allow you to by-pass Warkworth entirely when heading to Matakana and all parts Nor'east



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    a renovation and decor business

    Interesting euphemism



  • @Kiwiwomble said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Utilities? when we rebuilt after the chch earthquake our builder said vodafone would connect the house to the road...vodafone said the chorus would do it...chorus said the builder would...ended up digging a 30m trench myself and paying a sparky to run a duct and cable out to the road...was annoying!

    Yeah. I have three phase (although considering off grid) and phone / internet most of the way down the property to my barn, so not too hard to get it the rest of the way. I also have a digger so trenching not such an issue.Cabling expensive for sure.

    Keep them coming. I am bound to have forgotten something.



  • @dogmeat said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    a renovation and decor business

    Interesting euphemism

    You seem to confusing hobbies and business.



  • @Snowy Just so long as you don't. I've spent a bit of time pottering around decor shops in your neck of the woods.



  • @dogmeat said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Virgil Matakana Link road has been fast tracked . Hopefully ready not long after Puhoi - Warkworth. Will allow you to by-pass Warkworth entirely when heading to Matakana and all parts Nor'east

    That will be great won’t it, that intersection has been a disaster for years. Lost count how many times I’ve been stuck there.





  • @Virgil Hill street fucking does my head in. I have to go through a couple of times a day and every time I get past unscathed I'm relieved. The whole thing is a shit fight between AKL council and NZTA because it is a mix of regional roads and state highway. They actually had a workable solution but some local businesses complained about less traffic to their stores, so they canned it even though it worked.



  • @dogmeat said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Snowy https://sebringdesignbuild.com/top-trends-in-basement-design/

    I'll consider those. Always nice if your "guests" are comfortable.

    We seem to be getting off track. Unusual I know.

    Anything else that I might have missed - regarding the house?



  • looks like you got most of the normal stuff covered off, particularly if you have had ot get resource consent (is that due to location/visibility from water?)

    tradies not on the list, painter/decorator and gib stoppers.

    I know a few tradies down your way if you havent got them sorted.



  • @taniwharugby said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    looks like you got most of the normal stuff covered off, particularly if you have had ot get resource consent (is that due to location/visibility from water?)

    tradies not on the list, painter/decorator and gib stoppers.

    I know a few tradies down your way if you havent got them sorted.

    Thanks. Have done a few renos around here so have a team of guys and girls that work for me. Most of them are customers of mine and buy from me so it's mutually beneficial.

    Interesting that you mention Gib stoppers / plasterers. I have 2 but they are like tilers. Bloody hen's teeth.

    However, if my people are too busy, I'll give you call. Thanks.

    Yes, resource consent was due to visibility of the retaining wall (and drainage, wastewater).

    The retaining wall stuff was daft. They wanted me to paint it and given that I own a paint shop, no big deal. Then they wanted planting in front of it, which I would have done anyway, but I'm not doing both. The paint will deteriorate over a decade or two and then I cant get at it to redo because of the planting. My major issue was that natural timber weathers anyway. It just goes grey and blends in, so why paint it? They actually saw my point and are happy for me to plant natives across the front.



  • @Snowy ah duh, asking you if you have a painter 😂

    Yeah some of the BS around Resource Consents is just mental, but I dont need to tell you that!



  • @taniwharugby No you don't, re consents (not having consent - that sounds really bad these days) and yeah about 40 painters / companies I think.

    I will probably do painting myself, but plastering is a serious art. I am terrible at it unless I am after a stucco finish.
    It took me 3 months to get a tiling job done recently so I am renting some space in my new building to a tiler.



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @taniwharugby said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    looks like you got most of the normal stuff covered off, particularly if you have had ot get resource consent (is that due to location/visibility from water?)

    tradies not on the list, painter/decorator and gib stoppers.

    I know a few tradies down your way if you havent got them sorted.

    Thanks. Have done a few renos around here so have a team of guys and girls that work for me. Most of them are customers of mine and buy from me so it's mutually beneficial.

    Interesting that you mention Gib stoppers / plasterers. I have 2 but they are like tilers. Bloody hen's teeth.

    However, if my people are too busy, I'll give you call. Thanks.

    Yes, resource consent was due to visibility of the retaining wall (and drainage, wastewater).

    The retaining wall stuff was daft. They wanted me to paint it and given that I own a paint shop, no big deal. Then they wanted planting in front of it, which I would have done anyway, but I'm not doing both. The paint will deteriorate over a decade or two and then I cant get at it to redo because of the planting. My major issue was that natural timber weathers anyway. It just goes grey and blends in, so why paint it? They actually saw my point and are happy for me to plant natives across the front.

    ...if you need new doors i know a guy..



  • @Virgil said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @taniwharugby said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    looks like you got most of the normal stuff covered off, particularly if you have had ot get resource consent (is that due to location/visibility from water?)

    tradies not on the list, painter/decorator and gib stoppers.

    I know a few tradies down your way if you havent got them sorted.

    Thanks. Have done a few renos around here so have a team of guys and girls that work for me. Most of them are customers of mine and buy from me so it's mutually beneficial.

    Interesting that you mention Gib stoppers / plasterers. I have 2 but they are like tilers. Bloody hen's teeth.

    However, if my people are too busy, I'll give you call. Thanks.

    Yes, resource consent was due to visibility of the retaining wall (and drainage, wastewater).

    The retaining wall stuff was daft. They wanted me to paint it and given that I own a paint shop, no big deal. Then they wanted planting in front of it, which I would have done anyway, but I'm not doing both. The paint will deteriorate over a decade or two and then I cant get at it to redo because of the planting. My major issue was that natural timber weathers anyway. It just goes grey and blends in, so why paint it? They actually saw my point and are happy for me to plant natives across the front.

    ...if you need new doors i know a guy..

    Nice one, and yes I do need, and hadn't thought of it. I'm basically gutting the interior and will probably need some interior doors - 1930s period type, whether I try and get original or new. Not sure about all that yet.

    Definitely need a new front door as I am redesigning the entrance. Will have to look '30s. Garage (new build) has two offices / bedrooms above so doors there too.

    I'll get in touch when I know more about it all being put together.

    I also need fire doors with a smoke alarm auto release for joining my 2 commercial buildings together. Can you do that?

    Steel for the basement door obviously.



  • @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Virgil said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Snowy said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @taniwharugby said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    looks like you got most of the normal stuff covered off, particularly if you have had ot get resource consent (is that due to location/visibility from water?)

    tradies not on the list, painter/decorator and gib stoppers.

    I know a few tradies down your way if you havent got them sorted.

    Thanks. Have done a few renos around here so have a team of guys and girls that work for me. Most of them are customers of mine and buy from me so it's mutually beneficial.

    Interesting that you mention Gib stoppers / plasterers. I have 2 but they are like tilers. Bloody hen's teeth.

    However, if my people are too busy, I'll give you call. Thanks.

    Yes, resource consent was due to visibility of the retaining wall (and drainage, wastewater).

    The retaining wall stuff was daft. They wanted me to paint it and given that I own a paint shop, no big deal. Then they wanted planting in front of it, which I would have done anyway, but I'm not doing both. The paint will deteriorate over a decade or two and then I cant get at it to redo because of the planting. My major issue was that natural timber weathers anyway. It just goes grey and blends in, so why paint it? They actually saw my point and are happy for me to plant natives across the front.

    ...if you need new doors i know a guy..

    Nice one, and yes I do need, and hadn't thought of it. I'm basically gutting the interior and will probably need some interior doors - 1930s period type, whether I try and get original or new. Not sure about all that yet.

    Definitely need a new front door as I am redesigning the entrance. Will have to look '30s. Garage (new build) has two offices / bedrooms above so doors there too.

    I'll get in touch when I know more about it all being put together.

    I also need fire doors with a smoke alarm auto release for joining my 2 commercial buildings together. Can you do that?

    Steel for the basement door obviously.

    Wouldn’t feel safe looking into your basement door but the rest should be no problem.



  • @Snowy so art deco? Is it a bungalow? I have a 1920's Kauri transitional bungalow with original doors, paneling etc. If you are sticking with original windows you can get some glazing done to enhance the period look. Just make sure they don't fit properly. You have to have the draughts for that authentic touch ...



  • @dogmeat said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    @Snowy so art deco? Is it a bungalow? I have a 1920's Kauri transitional bungalow with original doors, paneling etc. If you are sticking with original windows you can get some glazing done to enhance the period look. Just make sure they don't fit properly. You have to have the draughts for that authentic touch ...

    Yep, bungalow but not really art deco (which I would have liked).

    Yeah the draughts and joinery are being discussed already. Very high wind zone so will have to do something. Had only thought about new joinery so thanks for the idea, might look at retrofit double glazing and some serious sealing. My bach was one of the very first buildings on the central plateau, so I understand where you are coming from. I put in R7 insulation down there but man even small eddies of breeze are freezing.



  • Sorry late to the thread.

    Don’t do it. Stressful as fuck and loads of hidden costs. Ex bought me out, I made a lot of money but she’s stuck with untold problems now her and her family are doing it.

    The ‘free’ house we got was anything but when all the other shit is factored in.



  • @MN5 said in So anybody relocated a house?:

    Sorry late to the thread.

    Don’t do it. Stressful as fuck and loads of hidden costs. Ex bought me out, I made a lot of money but she’s stuck with untold problems now her and her family are doing it.

    The ‘free’ house we got was anything but when all the other shit is factored in.

    You were right @Snowy

    They all end up living in a caravan and pregnant.


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