NFL 2015



  • Back by popular demand.

    Preseason begins in August, Seattle now has Jimmy Graham in their squad, Tom Brady will fight his suspension for a deflated football, and the 49ers had everybody retire in the offseason. Fuck.





  • Brady V Goodell in New York, New York on August 12http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/13372133/new-england-patriots-qb-tom-brady-attend-aug-12-settlement-hearingI can't see he has any shot especially after destroying his cellphone rather than allowing it to be examined during the probe



  • NFL is back with the first pre season game out of the way (Minnesota 14, Pittsburgh 3) and now all the fantasy geeks will worry every time one of their players gets hurt. Losers.



  • Btw anyone playing fantasy football this year?



  • Sneak, the 49ers have lost Aldon Smith too.  Safe to say expectations are at a low.  Perhaps Harbaugh engineered his own exit or at least knew the shit was coming down



  • Tbf to the 49ers Aldon Smith had run out of second chances. I doubt the NFL will let him play unless he does rehab. But yeah, 6-10 season is the best we can hope for. Hayne is going alright though.



  • Jets doing a good job of trying to out-do the 49ers for preseason disruptions with starting QB Geno Smith out 6-10 weeks with a fractured jaw after a linebacker in the team 'sucker punched' him in the locker room after an argument. The linebacker has been released. Sounds like something off a tv show or movie.



  • Jets doing a good job of trying to out-do the 49ers for preseason disruptions with starting QB Geno Smith out 6-10 weeks with a fractured jaw after a linebacker in the team 'sucker punched' him in the locker room after an argument. The linebacker has been released. Sounds like something off a tv show or movie.Its the Jets



  • Geno Smith sucks at QBing and paying back teammates. NY Jets got better at QB with Ryan Fitzpatrick taking over which isn't saying much.



  • First half of his first preseason NFL football game and J Hayne has 5 attempts for about 63 yards



  • First half of his first preseason NFL football game and J Hayne has 5 attempts for about 63 yards

    Running back or kick return?



  • HHHAAAYYNNNEEE PLLLLAANNNEEEE

    Not a bad break, his fend is going to cause trouble for some defenders who lack that technical skill of tackling. Talk is the coaching staff want to use him as a utility option (running back/kick return/safety).



  • The unnamed 49ers head coach says Hayne still has to work on a few things if he wants to make the final squad. One of the big things was he needed to "get low" when running but watching the above gif Hayne hits the line the way a secondrower would and has the benefit of guys obstructing for him. Once he breaks the line then it is no different to a break away in the NRL.
     
    Is Tim Tebow still a thing? He is trying out for the Philly Eagles as a QB -- he won't make the roster as the team is settled with three QBs - Bradford, Sanchez, Barkley -- but he threw a couple of times and scored a TD. Better off trying for Cleveland or Buffalo as both have zero QBs.



  • Hayne has always had a more upright running style than even most NRL players. The thing that has been good about Hayne is that he knows how to spot the gap and make the most of it. In preseason those gaps are big, if he makes the final squad (and I hope he does) then he'll soon realise in the real stuff that those gaps get smaller and smaller.
     
    I hope my Eagles don't waste their time with Tebow.  Bradford will be our man this year. And from the reports I've read it was Barkley that impressed in the preseason opener.



  • Why is Tebow still trying to be a quarterback? With his size, and feet, he could have been a tight end of some ability.



  • HHHAAAYYNNNEEE PLLLLAANNNEEEE
    Not a bad break, his fend is going to cause trouble for some defenders who lack that technical skill of tackling. Talk is the coaching staff want to use him as a utility option (running back/kick return/safety).CGW showed footage of two nice kick returns too. Tomsula was non-committal but you can't help but be impressed. I know it's only preseason but Hayne looks like he belongs in the league



  • CGW showed footage of two nice kick returns too. Tomsula was non-committal but you can't help but be impressed. I know it's only preseason but Hayne looks like he belongs in the league

    I am already amazed that he has got to where he has (pre-season games) in such a specialised sport.  If he makes a starting roster, I will be blown away.  Surely one of the great cross code sporting achievements of all time - to come from League to a helmeted game like that.  Amazing stuff and well done to him.  When he started, I didn't believe he would have a show.



  • Dude is dreaming...

    Report: Eli Manning Wants To Be NFL's Highest-Paid Player


  • Dude is dreaming...
     
    Report: Eli Manning Wants To Be NFL's Highest-Paid Player

    Report: NZZP wants to be NFL's highest paid player, realises he spends too much time on couch drinking beer



  • He'll probably win the superbowl again now. Worth more than Rivers but not more than Big Ben however.



  • FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
     


     
    Pretty funny, especially the Tool Time grunts about four secs in   :yes:





  • Hayne with a couple of eye catching returns this morning



  • And now a big gain from running back. He's certainly giving this a real shot.



  • I know bugger all about NFL - but he seems to be going pretty well.  This footage is from the pre season game earlier this morning:
     


     

     

     
    No doubt we'll see a few more NFL talent scouts in this part of the world over the next couple years....



  • I know bugger all about NFL - but he seems to be going pretty well.  This footage is from the pre season game earlier this morning:
     


     

     

    Calling it - the Hayne Plane will be the kick and punt returner for the 49ers and 3rd string RB behind Carlos Hyde and Reggie Bush. Might be worth a free agent pick up in some of my larger fantasy leagues.

    No doubt we'll see a few more NFL talent scouts in this part of the world over the next couple years....

    Which would be a worry for NRL/Super Rugby teams which have those power-type fullback/wings (Inglis, Folau etc).



  • Calling it - the Hayne Plane will be the kick and punt returner for the 49ers and 3rd string RB behind Carlos Hyde and Reggie Bush. Might be worth a free agent pick up in some of my larger fantasy leagues.
     
     
    Which would be a worry for NRL/Super Rugby teams which have those power-type fullback/wings (Inglis, Folau etc).

    Imagine RTS as a kick return!?!?!  Warriors will be getting nervous.  I think Inglis is probably past his prime (although I also said Hayne had no chance of making it).....



  • Imagine RTS as a kick return!?!?!  Warriors will be getting nervous.  I think Inglis is probably past his prime (although I also said Hayne had no chance of making it).....inglis in his prime would have been amazing, maybe even Slater too. League back 3's are well suited to punt return and RB play



  • Canefan - agree on Inglis.  Slater may have been a little small?
     
    I honestly thought Jarryd had no chance.  There are so many talented US college players who've grown up playing the game.  I'll be very happy if I'm proven wrong - which appears almost certain now....



  • Preface: I have a very basic understanding of the game of grid iron, but none of its intricacies.

    I honestly thought Jarryd had no chance.  There are so many talented US college players who've grown up playing the game.  I'll be very happy if I'm proven wrong - which appears almost certain now....

    Is it a case then of these guys being skilled at fitting the mould but not necessarily breaking it? Being programmed into the system? One thing I noticed when watching College football with a mate (who is into the sport bigtime) is that its more adventurous than the NFL because of the way the game has evolved.
     
    Hayne has years of professional sport and working in space - though here he's relying on blockers doing their job. The field is narrower, but there are less blokes once you're through the line who are likely to get back there, and if you make that 10 yards that is what the coach wants, most of the time.
     
    Imagine a scenario where the 49ers put another punt returner or a wide receiver/running back on the field, and teach them pass and catch. Let he and Hayne work off each other, and while you lose a potential blocker, the threat of passing the ball - while not acceptable in terms of the percentage plays of the modern game - a heck of a threat to my eyes. Everyone zeroes in on the ball carrier because its only one target. If Hayne threw a dummy pass today, no-one would buy it and he'd get annihilated. But what if he DID get an offload away to a guy two yards away who sprints, untouched, to the end zone? Next game, people would be watching out for that shit.
     
    People would lose their shit IF the coach ever agreed to it.



  • Question: is it legal to strip the ball in the NFL?



  • Yes. It's actively encouraged. Watch how the runners/receivers hold the ball when heading for contact.
    The thing Hayne has over others is his desire and determination to make a go of this. Not every great rugby athlete is going to have the drive to go back to basics.



  • Imagine a scenario where the 49ers put another punt returner or a wide receiver/running back on the field, and teach them pass and catch. Let he and Hayne work off each other, and while you lose a potential blocker, the threat of passing the ball - while not acceptable in terms of the percentage plays of the modern game - a heck of a threat to my eyes. Everyone zeroes in on the ball carrier because its only one target. If Hayne threw a dummy pass today, no-one would buy it and he'd get annihilated. But what if he DID get an offload away to a guy two yards away who sprints, untouched, to the end zone? Next game, people would be watching out for that shit.
     
    People would lose their shit IF the coach ever agreed to it.

    I made the same comments to some family friends when visiting North America a few years ago and they looked at me like I was a complete idiot.  Possession is just treasured so highly - it would take a coach with a massive risk tolerance to call the play during an actual game (even a college game).  
     
    Further to M4L's comments on the carrying style - the other week I'm sure I saw Jarryd catch the ball with that weird arms crossed over style.  I can understand wrapping it up like that when going into contact against massive defensive linemen but it's hard to imagine a more awkward way to try and actually catch a football.  Sooooo many things he's had to unlearn to make it this far.  Respect.



  • Yea they don't so much catch as cuddle the ball until they are in the clear



  • I made the same comments to some family friends when visiting North America a few years ago and they looked at me like I was a complete idiot.  Possession is just treasured so highly - it would take a coach with a massive risk tolerance to call the play during an actual game (even a college game).

    It is an amazing thing for americans to see a lateral pass in football.  Basically it is seen as a trick play, I've never seen one in the pros, only at college level, from one non QB player to another



  • Green Bay Packers suffer a big pre-season loss - WR Jordy Nelson is out for the season with a knee injury. Houston Texans have chosen former Browns QB Brian Hoyer over Ryan Mallett. Both started as back up QBs to Tom Brady.



  • Yeah I reckon they'll take him as a punt return as its a lower risk option but has huge highlight reel potential. There could be big marketing potential as well with Aussies buying 49ers gear etc.
    I gotta say I'm getting excited for the season and the Hayne factor is definitely contributing to the excitement.



  • It is an amazing thing for americans to see a lateral pass in football.  Basically it is seen as a trick play, I've never seen one in the pros, only at college level, from one non QB player to another

    There are laterals, but almost always from the hand of the QB to the RB. It's an option pass or a sweep, and if you watch enough NFL you'll see plenty. The trick-plays, as you say, are things like reverse "flea-flickers," etc., where the ball is tossed between QB, RB and/or a WR who then throws the ball deep. American spectators lose their shit any time a ball is moved between three sets of hands (and I'm not counting the center snap).



  • Possession is just treasured so highly - it would take a coach with a massive risk tolerance to call the play during an actual game (even a college game).

    Possession is EVERY-THING. Turnovers are the WORST. That is why the game is played so tight and safe. The coach is playing for his job, and elevated risks usually get them fired. If an athlete starts throwing the ball around in open-play, that will get the athlete and the coach fired. The only athletes who can change plays called by the sideline are veteran HoF-level QBs, like Brady & Manning, and they are usually calling audibles only because they don't like the way the defense is schemed (and sometimes in the "hurry-up" a.k.a. "no-huddle" offense.) I could be wrong, but seems to me the last two QBs who were regularly permitted to call their own offensive plays on complete drives were Jim Kelly (Bills) in the 1990s, and before him Terry Bradshaw (Steelers) in the 1970s.


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