The Daily Mail



  • Is generally rubbish. Any dodgier and it'd be published by Fairfax or NZME.
     
    Just the occasional good article on cricket.



  • And on a more serious note - what newspapers (print or online) do people think haven't fallen off a cliff in the last few years?



  • um...............



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    And on a more serious note - what newspapers (print or online) do people think haven't fallen off a cliff in the last few years?

    I can't think of any. The Sunday papers in NZ were the last hold outs of decent standards for a while but they lost it a few years back.



  • I think the mail was at the forefront of the vaccines cause autism bullshit in the late 90s they also got caught plagiarising an article off cracked last year.
    I'm not sure if papers were ever that wonderful to start with but they haven't handled the threat of the internet very well , having said that I'm not sure what else they could have done when they suffered a huge loss of income through advertising .
    I stopped buying them years ago , if I pick one up now I'm usually quite surprised how far behind the international news section is and how often they tell half the story. Case in point is the crims in Aussie, apparently one of the deportees was Keys bodyguard in Afghanistan and is a war hero etc etcetc. Recent photos show him with a gang tattoo around his throat and he's a gang associate at a time when the Aussies are trying to crack down on them with some fairly over top laws. I'm struggling to understand why I should feel sorry for him.



  • And on a more serious note - what newspapers (print or online) do people think haven't fallen off a cliff in the last few years?

    Financial Times.



  • 🙂
     
     
    I can't think of any. The Sunday papers in NZ were the last hold outs of decent standards for a while but they lost it a few years back.

    I picked up the SST for the first time in a while about six months ago - a BIG let down 😞

    Financial Times.

    Thank you!



  • The sst is only good got lining a budgies cage now. I saw the other day the herald has had 52 articles featuring max key in the past year, probably double that for Millie Holmes and Lorde.



  • The sst is only good got lining a budgies cage now. I saw the other day the herald has had 52 articles featuring max key in the past year, probably double that for Millie Holmes and Lorde.

    For them the jackpot would be working all three into a story. Powerball win if Dot Com got into the mix...



  • The sst is only good got lining a budgies cage now. I saw the other day the herald has had 52 articles featuring max key in the past year, probably double that for Millie Holmes and Lorde.

    You might not like her music but it's pretty unfair to put her in the same category as Max Key and Millie Holmes.
     
    I used to get the SST and read the whole thing (minus the property etc) over the course of a Sunday. The last time I flipped through one it took me about 10 minutes before I'd run out of something even half decent to read.



  • I used to get the SST and read the whole thing (minus the property etc) over the course of a Sunday. The last time I flipped through one it took me about 10 minutes before I'd run out of something even half decent to read.

    I remember those days fondly. I've recently managed to flip through/read the BoP Times and make a start on the Herald in-between getting seated on the plane and take-off. Sigh.



  • You might not like her music but it's pretty unfair to put her in the same category as Max Key and Millie Holmes.
     
    I used to get the SST and read the whole thing (minus the property etc) over the course of a Sunday. The last time I flipped through one it took me about 10 minutes before I'd run out of something even half decent to read.

    What catagory is that? And what are the other two in? I was thinking they seem a little obsessed with them .
    Who looks at the part with the photos of rich people getting married or going to parties? Apart from other rich people obviously .



  • What catagory is that? And what are the other two in? I was thinking they seem a little obsessed with them .
    Who looks at the part with the photos of rich people getting married or going to parties? Apart from other rich people obviously .

    I was thinking along the lines of Lorde is famous for something - her music. The other two are famous for being the offspring of other famous people.



  • I remember those days fondly. I've recently managed to flip through/read the BoP Times and make a start on the Herald in-between getting seated on the plane and take-off. Sigh.

    What's weird is magazines don't seem to be suffering as badly as papers, Bay fisher is not a nationwide mag . Not bad seeing as it started off as a bop only publication.
    I think one of those "lads" mags like Ralph or something died recently though. I'm not sure why they exist in the first place ,



  • Is generally rubbish. Any dodgier and it'd be published by Fairfax or NZME.
     
    Just the occasional good article on cricket.

    The world is not black and white (as you point out)
     
    So it doesn't mean every article in this paper is complete rubbish
     
    And one person may write sound articles and also piss poor ones.
     
    (The above has been posted for Nepia)



  • What's weird is magazines don't seem to be suffering as badly as papers, Bay fisher is not a nationwide mag . Not bad seeing as it started off as a bop only publication.

    Yep, I've heard comment recently that circulation is up for (some? most?) magazines. I suppose it's the appeal of a more in depth read.



  • I was thinking along the lines of Lorde is famous for something - her music. The other two are famous for being the offspring of other famous people.

    Its the papers obsession with them that they have in common, also its not Lordes music that I can't stand. I suspect she has the political leanings of a young Eleanor Catton and I'm surprised she hasn't shared them with us yet.
     
    In a rwc full of important news such as the Tongan team eating Nandos and the abs eating pies this is a standout.http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/73574875/Lorde-pretty-proud-of-All-Blacks



  • Yep, I've heard comment recently that circulation is up for (some? most?) magazines. I suppose it's the appeal of a more in depth read.

    Yeah,a lot of magazines seem to have taken to the web a bit better than most papers.  But it looks its all bad news for the lads mags though, I was trying to find out which one went belly up and it was something called zoo. The article said fhm and ralph are gone too http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/72173586/Racy-lad-mag-Zoo-Weekly-to-close-last-edition-October-12



  • Its the papers obsession with them that they have in common, also its not Lordes music that I can't stand. I suspect she has the political leanings of a young Eleanor Catton and I'm surprised she hasn't shared them with us yet.
     
    In a rwc full of important news such as the Tongan team eating Nandos and the abs eating pies this is a standout.http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/73574875/Lorde-pretty-proud-of-All-Blacks

    Ah, I should have known it was because she was an evil leftie. 😉

    The world is not black and white (as you point out)
     
    So it doesn't mean every article in this paper is complete rubbish
     
    And one person may write sound articles and also piss poor ones.
     
    (The above has been posted for Nepia)

    Why on earth would I listen to a thing you say Winger when your mind isn't open enough to listen more than 3 minutes about a discussion of scientific evidence because if you did your belief system would come crashing down like a house of cards?



  • Ah, I should have known it was because she was an evil leftie. 😉

    Well duh.
     
    I see you've already had this discussion today on pr.



  • Well duh.
     
    I see you've already had this discussion today on pr.

    Huh? Daily Mail? Lorde? Lefties? My memory is pretty bad and I can't remember these ones ... oh, probably discussing NZ Herald with Sen then. Sheesh man, don't make me tax my brain like that, that was a couple of posts in a thread about something else ....



  • Huh? Daily Mail? Lorde? Lefties? My memory is pretty bad and I can't remember these ones ... oh, probably discussing NZ Herald with Sen then. Sheesh man, don't make me tax my brain like that, that was a couple of posts in a thread about something else ....

    Thats the one, I think he sees potential in you. How do you feel about being his protoge?



  • Thats the one, I think he sees potential in you. How do you feel about being his protoge?

    I think he's as good at picking a protegee as Liam Nesson's character was in the first of the shit Star War's.



  • I think he's as good at picking a protegee as Liam Nesson's character was in the first of the shit Star War's.

    Dont say no now, sleep on it. I think you have the wrong star wars character too, he's trying to lure you to the dark side .



  • Dont say no now, sleep on it. I think you have the wrong star wars character too, he's trying to lure you to the dark side .

    I thought that Neeson's character took him on and then Obi Wan took over when he got Mauled.



  • I thought that Neeson's character took him on and then Obi Wan took over when he got Mauled.

    Buggered if I know. When I was about 11 dad bought me tickets to the empire strikes back so he could go to the pub in peace, I hadn't seen star wars so I sat there for most of it thinking "what is this shit?" .



  • Buggered if I know. When I was about 11 dad bought me tickets to the empire strikes back so he could go to the pub in peace, I hadn't seen star wars so I sat there for most of it thinking "what is this shit?" .

    I thought every primary school rotated Star Wars and Mary Poppins videos every Friday afternoon?



  • Not in Taita.



  • Not in Taita.

    Luxurious Taita must have had some upper class videos I guess?;)



  • Luxurious Taita must have had some upper class videos I guess? 😉

    You are confusing me with Lord Bones of Eastbourne, Taita central is decile 1.



  • You are confusing me with Lord Bones of Eastbourne, Taita central is decile 1.

    When you're from Flaxmere everywhere else is luxurious, even Taita.



  • I remember playing cricket at Taita college. There was a huge ditch 3/4 of the way down the pitch, our coach wanted to call the game off for safety concerns. I scored 17 and got player of the match.



  • I remember playing cricket at Taita college. There was a huge ditch 3/4 of the way down the pitch, our coach wanted to call the game off for safety concerns. I scored 17 and got player of the match.

    It was across the road from a glue factory too, no need to buy your ados fix just inhale the fumes.



  • When you're from Flaxmere everywhere else is luxurious, even Taita.

    This could degenerate into that monty python sketch soon .



  • This could degenerate into that monty python sketch soon .

    For the second time this week on TSF 🙂



  • Stuff have been running a lot of stories of children murdered by their parents this weekend, what the deal behind that?



  • Stuff have been running a lot of stories of children murdered by their parents this weekend, what the deal behind that?

    They're probably just very annoying kids.



  • They're probably just very annoying kids.

    Well that's a welcome return to form .
    Was just at the barbers and they had the print version, apparently it's a weekend feature about the rate of child abuse in NZ .



  • I think one of those "lads" mags like Ralph or something died recently though. I'm not sure why they exist in the first place ,

    As long as there are men there will be a market for breasts.



  • It is truly remarkable how just about every TSF thread veers off into smutland.
     
    I'm pretty sure you're all closet romance writers. :man_in_love:


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