Breaking news : Pope not Christian



  • Quite surprising I thought.
    Apparently building walls to keep people out of your country is not christain... anyone been to the Vatican city? Big walls....



  • It's not to keep people out , they built it to keep the pedophiles in.



  • Did he build the walls? Or is, perhaps, he expected to tear the walls down? 🙂



  • It's not to keep people out , they built it to keep the pedophiles in.

    You racist bigot. How dare you besmirch all Catholics in that manner. If you insult the non-paedophiles there's a huge risk that they'll start fiddling with kids too.
    You'd better be prepared for some serious outrage coming your way bro.....or not.



  • Quite surprising I thought.
    Apparently building walls to keep people out of your country is not christain... anyone been to the Vatican city? Big walls....

    This popes schtick is getting pretty old " I'll do do and say anything that gets my church and me positive attention " .



  • Did he build the walls? Or is, perhaps, he expected to tear the walls down? 🙂

    How about just removing the gates and guards? Bit of unrestricted access?
     
    The pope has acted like a buffoon.



  • You racist bigot. How dare you besmirch all Catholics in that manner. If you insult the non-paedophiles there's a huge risk that they'll start fiddling with kids too.
    You'd better be prepared for some serious outrage coming your way bro.....or not.

    I saw spotlight a couple of weeks ago, 6% of priests are generally pedophiles according to the authority in the film.



  • This popes schtick is getting pretty old " I'll do do and say anything that gets my church and me positive attention " .

    He only attacks rich white people and countries. it is the christian way.



  • I have a fair bit of time for the Jesuits, but this guy lives in a fantasy world.



  • This popes schtick is getting pretty old " I'll do do and say anything that gets my church and me positive attention " .

    I think he's been taking lessons from a well known rugby identity on tackling the hard issues...



  • He only attacks rich white people and countries. it is the christian way.

    Pretty much all the popes in my memory have done that to a certain degree, its kind of amusing that they think they have some sort of higher moral plane to look down on us from.



  • maybe he and Trump should have a cage fight to the death, with the winner getting to preach Christianity in Mecca!



  • I saw spotlight a couple of weeks ago, 6% of priests are generally pedophiles according to the authority in the film.

    Do NOT call them priests bro. God knows what will happen if we do that.



  • Quite surprising I thought.
    Apparently building walls to keep people out of your country is not christain... anyone been to the Vatican city? Big walls....

    Yes, I too saw that tweet from Trumps PR lead saying that, that you haven't credited.



  • Yes, I too saw that tweet from Trumps PR lead saying that, that you haven't credited.

    Also Its not exactly the same now is it. I walked in and out of the Vatican city when last in Rome totally unchecked. They aren't exactly trying to keep people out now are they. Sure it has walls but also big gates that are always open. 
     
    There are many issues with the catholic church but xenophobia doesn't seem to be one of them.



  • Bit of a stretch Baron.



  • Yes, I too saw that tweet from Trumps PR lead saying that, that you haven't credited.

    WMP (White Minority Paranoia) doesn't need a credit scheme, just scare tactics 😉
     
     
    Yes, its fucking amusing that one of the biggest tax havens religions in the world is telling people how they should behave, particularly in terms of charity when they're sitting on a huge pile of wealth.



  • Yes, I too saw that tweet from Trumps PR lead saying that, that you haven't credited.

    Why would I credit that?I thought of it all by myself. I will coach you on how to have an individual thought if you like. It is quite fun and might make your posts better. But I doubt it, you are to fascinated by trying to critique my posts to put much thought into your own. It is kinda cute though.. like havng my own little puppy.



  • Also Its not exactly the same now is it. I walked in and out of the Vatican city when last in Rome totally unchecked. They aren't exactly trying to keep people out now are they. Sure it has walls but also big gates that are always open. 
     
    There are many issues with the catholic church but xenophobia doesn't seem to be one of them.

    Totally unchecked? And you could walk anywhere you liked? Sweet! What were the popes chambers like?



  • Bit of a stretch Baron.

    A bit of a stretch like saying that building walls and controlling illegal entry is not christian?



  • A bit of a stretch like saying that building walls and controlling illegal entry is not christian?

    Maybe.
    But I do find the views of many fundamentalist Christians very unChristian. And a hard and fast "fuck off we're full, we're not helping those foreigners" type attitude is similarly non-charitable and unChristian. So i do have sympathy for Frank's comments.



  • Maybe.
    But I do find the views of many fundamentalist Christians very unChristian. And a hard and fast "fuck off we're full, we're not helping those foreigners" type attitude is similarly non-charitable and unChristian. So i do have sympathy for Frank's comments.

    Which is just bullshit of course. Ever tried to immigrate to the Vatican city? Does any worthwhile country not have a process? What Trump is proposing is 'not fuck off were full' it is... stop illegal immigrants. Does the Vatican city have no controls over who goes where and for how long inside its country? Like fuck it does. 'Frank' is a monumental hypocrite meddling in domestic politics that he has no business meddling with. I have no issue with any country building a wall or whatever it want so to stop the flow of illegal immigrants. It is a sovereign right of any country to control the flow. Is the Pope also saying hat the govt of Hungary is also un-christian? They built a wall to stop migrants... personally I dont think it was unchristain.. but basic common sense.  What would you have advised Hungary to do?
    I think Trump is a dangerous muppet, I think the wall will never work. I also think the Pope has stepped over a line... but he has a free pass as 1.2 billion people he is the right hand of the imaginary man in the sky.



  • Doesn't the wall have to be built 1km inside the US boundaries according to international law?



  • Which is just bullshit of course. Ever tried to immigrate to the Vatican city? Does any worthwhile country not have a process? What Trump is proposing is 'not fuck off were full' it is... stop illegal immigrants. Does the Vatican city have no controls over who goes where and for how long inside its country? Like fuck it does. 'Frank' is a monumental hypocrite meddling in domestic politics that he has no business meddling with. I have no issue with any country building a wall or whatever it want so to stop the flow of illegal immigrants. It is a sovereign right of any country to control the flow. Is the Pope also saying hat the govt of Hungary is also un-christian? They built a wall to stop migrants... personally I dont think it was unchristain.. but basic common sense. What would you have advised Hungary to do?
    I think Trump is a dangerous muppet, I think the wall will never work. I also think the Pope has stepped over a line... but he has a free pass as 1.2 billion people he is the right hand of the imaginary man in the sky.

    Fair enough



  • Can't wait for Trump to be finished. It is starting to look like the Republicans are starting to coalesce around Rubio. I have little doubt that Rubio will win but i would like it to happen as soon as possible.



  • That is the other thing that the Pope got horribly wrong. After all the nasty things Trump has done, screwing people over etc...
    The Pope picked that to comment on? Seriously? How about 'a Christian does not bankrupt his own companies whilst making sure he personally is ok but screws over creditors and small investors'  Far more accurate and fitting. But if he starts attacking the moral fibre of politicians... when would he stop?



  • Politicians tell other politicians from foreign nations how to act all the time.



  • Politicians tell other politicians from foreign nations how to act all the time.

    Yes? And?



  • Aaaaaaand you haven't started a thread for any of them.



  • Aaaaaaand you haven't started a thread for any of them.

    Correct. Not sure what your point is. Are you equating the pope to a politician? Actually I dont even care I will just assume you are trolling yet again.



  • Quite surprising I thought.
    Apparently building walls to keep people out of your country is not christain... anyone been to the Vatican city? Big walls....
    :think:
    Yeah. I'm the troll.



  • :think:
    Yeah. I'm the troll.

    Points for coming clean.



  • Perhaps if the Pope could see his way to promoting contraception, then fewer children would be born into poverty and hey who knows perhaps even fewer Mexican migrants would seek their way into the US and then Trump wouldn't have to be such a dickhead about it



  • Perhaps if the Pope could see his way to promoting contraception, then fewer children would be born into poverty and hey who knows perhaps even fewer Mexican migrants would seek their way into the US and then Trump wouldn't have to be such a dickhead about it

    Every Republican candidate in the race is running on the fuill defunding of planned parenthood, so they are kinda on the same page there....



  • Totally unchecked? And you could walk anywhere you liked? Sweet! What were the popes chambers like?

    Oh yeah I totally said I was allowed on private property once in the vatican city unchecked!
     
    Come on you are smarter than that, it's one thing to be allowed in a country and another to be allowed to just enter any private residence.
     
    Look "your" attempt at exposing hypocrisy sucked. Admit it and move on. As I said I am not catholic and not a fan of any organised religion but as far as I can see the name of the game here is to amass as many people as possible to follow you. So they are fairly inclusive these days. Now is it realistic to expect them to house the nation's needy and hungry in half a square kilometer? No it's not, being that the vatican is more like the administrative centre of the church then a real country. Do they support the hungry and needy in other ways? Maybe I don't know. Is it any of his business if the USA choose to build the dumbest wall in history? Also no. Is he allowed to make comments on his faith to his followers. He absolutely is, that's the deal you sign up to with religion. You let some other clown tell you what he thinks your sky fairy wants you to do. If you don't like it, he has every right to say you're not a follower.



  • There's still plenty of space in the Vatican City for a few thousand refugees.



  • There's still plenty of space in the Vatican City for a few thousand refugees.

    They have actually opened up Vatican apartments to refugees. Pope did it last year. Not thousands.. but if you've ever been to the Vatican, there sure as fuck isn't room for 1000's.
     
    Much as I loathe the Catholic church (and all forms or organised cult), the current Pope is really walking the walk on most issues. He's refreshingly sane.
     
    Ish.
     
    For a religious leader.



  • There's still plenty of space in the Vatican City for a few thousand refugees.

    Interesting segue, but the discussion is about illegal immigrants not refugees. I am guessing that its not a popular destination for illegal immigrants for a few reasons.Lack of work? Lack of facilities, they need schools, hospitals.
     
    Finally would they actually want to live there? When you could just live in Italy?



  • Interesting segue, but the discussion is about illegal immigrants not refugees. I am guessing that its not a popular destination for illegal immigrants for a few reasons.Lack of work? Lack of facilities, they need schools, hospitals.
    Finally would they actually want to live there? When you could just live in Italy?

    I'm sorry, I should have written "refugees".



  • They have actually opened up Vatican apartments to refugees. Pope did it last year. Not thousands.. but if you've ever been to the Vatican, there sure as fuck isn't room for 1000's.
    Much as I loathe the Catholic church (and all forms or organised cult), the current Pope is really walking the walk on most issues. He's refreshingly sane.
    Ish.
    For a religious leader.

    It would be a squeeze, but I'm sure Francis wouldn't mind.


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