Luigi - back on track



  • I ran, walked, limped and stumbled (in that order) my way to the finish of the New York Marathon in November and three weeks afterwards was back in my trainers, feeling great and even managing to run 40+ miles in one week.

    Then Christmas intervened and afterwards a big project at work and that was that. I never seemed to get going again.

    Until this morning.

    I knew it would be difficult so chose a simple 4 mile jog alongside the canal and back. Boy, was I shocked at how hard it was. I seem to have lost all the hard-won fitness, which is reallydepressing.

    But at least I have broken the ice. The day's are getting longer and the warmer weather is round the corner.

    Bring it on!



  • Welcome aboard, we are here to helpร‚ย  :happy:



  • Thanks MvJ.

    I plan to run as many early mornings as possible and dust the bike off for the weekends.

    Some weights and a swiss ball will make an appearance too.

    I am annoyed that much of the hard work I put in towards the end of 05 has been lost. Hopefully it will be easier to reacquire than if starting from scratch.

    I am weight in at around 17stones I guess at the mo and need to get to 15 stone as a target. Someone else can convert my lardiness to kilos.



  • 108kg to 95kg. But don't just guess your weight, measure itร‚ย  ๐Ÿ˜

    The swiss ball sounds quite kinky, MvJ is surprised he doesn't have one himself.



  • It is good for the core stability - perhaps something MvJ does not require assistance with?



  • Actually the thing MvJ requires assistance with more than anything. Rugby is all about core stability they were telling us at the smart-rugby seminar I went to last weekend, which makes sense.



  • Everything from breathing upwards is about core stability.ร‚ย  Luigi what time did you do in NY?



  • I wished you hadn't asked me that .. ๐Ÿ‘…

    I hit the half way mark at around 2.10 which was roughly my target but then the heat and humidity and thoser bastard bridges started to get to me and it was a long downward spiral from there. My rubbish right leg also gave up the ghost at around 17 miles and that was effectively that. I hit the tape at 5.35. Most of our group struggled with the conditions. The humidity was the worst and not what I expected in early November. The bridges are basically hills and mean fuckers at that. All in all, very tough for a 100 kilo ex prop. But I should have done better.



  • [quote name='Luigi']
    The bridges are basically hills and mean fuckers at that. All in all, very tough for a 100 kilo ex prop. But I should have done better.
    [/quote]

    Isn't it shit how bridges aren't flat? Dirty bastards put hills in the middle of them as I found out walking/running the Harbour Bridge here in Sydders during a previous health kick



  • Basking in the afterglow of England's annihilation of Australia in the 7s, I decided emulate my heroes with a run.

    Fuck me, what a shocker.

    Even worse than yesterday! I got a bastard stitch after only half a mile which felt like someone was running a rusty knife along one of my rib bones.

    I managed to get to the turn point in my 4 mile loop and had to walk. Shameful.

    'Why is this so fucking hard?" I kept asking myself. One of the clues is staring me right in the face everytime I try and look at my shoes - a fat, wobbly gut.

    I reckon I'm carrying a least a stone more than when I was running last. I try to visualise carrying a stone in weight in my arms while I'm running - it gives me another stitch just thinking about it.

    But I'm determined to carry on.



  • [quote name='Luigi']
    Basking in the afterglow of England's annihilation of Australia in the 7s, I decided emulate my heroes with a run.[/quote]

    :-k How do you manage to buy a ref when going for a run?



  • [quote name='Nick the Aussie']
    [quote name='Luigi']
    Basking in the afterglow of England's annihilation of Australia in the 7s, I decided emulate my heroes with a run.[/quote]

    :-k How do you manage to buy a ref when going for a run?

    [/quote]

    To be honest, I think our lads were so shocked at not having to overhaul a 10 point home field advantage before the off that they were a little confused and took a few silly options.

    Loved watching Tuqiri scrabbling for a piece of Varndell as he got burned on the outside.



  • Right before Tuqiri nabbed him you mean? Were we watching the same game? :nta



  • What the fuck Nick - who cares anyway?



  • You started it



  • I don't know what hurts the most - my legs or my lungs.

    My weekend was not too naughty, even considering it was my birthday on Sunday. Friday night was a few vin rouge after work and a fish and chip supper, which I left half of.

    Saturday I umpired a hockey game and made an effort to run around a lot. Saturday night was a pub crawl with a mate during which I sank a great deal of Guinness and talked the most marvelous bollocks all evening. I think a kebab may have made an appearance at some point between closing time and the sofa.

    Sunday I was good. Me and Mrs Luigi walked across the fields and through the woods to the pub, occasionally holding hands and talking. THIS IS A GOOD THING to do apparently. A marvelous roast dinner was washed down with more vin rouge and the evening was topped off at home with a couple of DVDs

    Monday I had a full day at work so no training but I managed to keep the refueling down to rye toast for breakfast, soup for lunch and chicken risotto for dinner.

    And so to this morning.

    I was hoping my third run of the campaign would be a little easier. Not a bit of it. The stitch has moved and now set up camp somewhere above my left tit. My left knee feels like it has gone rusty and I can feel both achilles graunching up and down in their sheaths. But it is the shortness of breath that is worst. I only really have one pace and that is too fast for my condition at the minute. Hence I can feel the ventricles that used to carry oxygen to my blood supply being forced open to cope with the renewed demands on the system. It hurts, to be honest. And it hurts more because less than three months ago it was a lot easier.

    Still, I am determined to keep going. As they said in the Commonwealth Triathlon at the wekend - it's about who is prepared to suffer the most.

    I will provide a weigh-in when I get to a decent set of scales.



  • have just started doing some interval training on the rowing machine, and yes, pain is now what it is all about.ร‚ย  but pain is good for you, isn't it... :coolsmiley:



  • Back again.

    But his time instead of talking the talk and not walking the walk, I have purposefully left it a full month to report on my big push towards fitness.

    First things first: I am off the booze completely and have been for 4 weeks yesterday. This is the longest I have been without a drink since my late teens, which is saying something (something bad that is). I have had some tricky moments, most notably during a business trip to Italy where my charming hosts were anxious to showcase various wines from the region during dinner. My strategy here was fairly simple - I accepted the glass but didn't drink any. With a fullish glass in front of me, there was never any reason to take anymore. Simple.

    Hand in hand with the lack of alcohol has been a complete change of diet. This is obvious - more 'chick' food as PAJ would have it and no naughty stuff.

    In exercise terms I have started running with the trail running group locally on Weds and Sats, usually around 4 miles through the woods and across the common. This has been bloody hard but the feel-good vibe afterwards is worth it. I have run this morning too and feel great, although I had to grind out the last mile. I intend to up the running to three times a week and try and start to add more miles to get me out of any comfort zone I might have fallen into (as if).

    I have also joined a gym locally, but this one is a funky little Rocky style operation rather than the posing palaces you got to for 'mirror' muscles. Part of my programme is the rowing machine, which is quite the bastard. I am only on it for 10 minutes a session but I record my distance and try and beat it every time. Fuck me, it gets you going! The rest of the workout is weights and stretches plus core stability exercises.

    Finally, I am back on the bike. Sadly I had my very expensive mountain bike stolen so I have got back into road cycling on my Scott AFD Expert. It's not a bad bike - certainly good enough for me. but like NtA, I have a bit of a addiction to bike exotica and would love to upgrade. Part of my evil plan to convince Mrs Luigi has been to buy her a bike too so we can go out [i]together[/i]. I've lashed out on the Trek 1500 with the Shimano Ultegra groupset for her, thinking that when it's time for my new steed I will similarly be able to get something up the scale. I have a hankering for a Colnago with Campagnolo throughout, but we'll see.

    Anyway, where we live is in the middle of some chalk hills called the Chilterns. So we've been out and about on the bikes up and down a variety of inclines from mean little fuckers to long slow drags uphill. This Friday just gone we managed to grind out 38 miles after work around a route we affectionately call the 'Hilly Mofo'. Fuck I was shagged at the end, but again feeling very pleased.

    So with all this activity - what's been the benefit?

    Well, I was weighed in the gym on 06/06/06 (how spooky) and came in at 112 kgs. On the 23/06/06 I tipped the same scales at 106kgs. So six kilos in just under three weeks.

    I'm fairly pleased with that because it will give me the boost I need to keep going. If I could do the same in the next 3-4 weeks I would make not drinking well worth it.



  • ๐Ÿ‘ Nice on Luigi.

    Can't quite work out if thats you in your avator or not?



  • [quote name='Paj']
    ๐Ÿ‘ Nice on Luigi.

    Can't quite work out if thats you in your avator or not?
    [/quote]

    Yep, it's me at the end of the New York Marathon. You can get a hint of my feelings at the time.ร‚ย  :whistle:

    Up this morning for a 3 mile run along the canal and back with Mrs Luigi, who completed her first triathlon at the weekend. While she's loping along barely out of breath, I'm huffing and puffing my way to a minor coronary. But it has to be done.

    Good way to start the day - get it over and done with. Might go out on the bikes later too and introduce Mrs Luigi to pedals with clips. That'll teach her.ร‚ย  :twisted:



  • Well you have lost a shed load of weight mate, well doneร‚ย  ๐Ÿ‘

    How is Mrs Luigi, still pining for me ๐Ÿ˜



  • Invite us over mate, she'd love to see you.

    Me, I could care less.

    For a bit of fun, have a look at this ...

    [url="http://homepage.mac.com/lewiseckett/comiclife/"]http://homepage.mac.com/lewiseckett/comiclife/[/url]

    ๐Ÿ˜



  • Classic! Very good. ๐Ÿ‘



  • [quote name='Luigi']

    Finally, I am back on the bike. Sadly I had my very expensive mountain bike stolen so I have got back into road cycling on my Scott AFD Expert. It's not a bad bike - certainly good enough for me. but like NtA, I have a bit of a addiction to bike exotica and would love to upgrade. Part of my evil plan to convince Mrs Luigi has been to buy her a bike too so we can go out [i]together[/i]. I've lashed out on the Trek 1500 with the Shimano Ultegra groupset for her, thinking that when it's time for my new steed I will similarly be able to get something up the scale. I have a hankering for a [b]Colnago with Campagnolo throughout, but we'll see.[/b]

    [/quote]

    don't be a sheep every bastard has a colnago.. and for someone of your weight it'll be like riding a wet noodle.

    Get a Pinarello F4:13. Decent price as the stock setup (about half the cost of a colnago)... then of course you can do what i did and stick on full record groupo and some ksyruim ES's and you'll want to go riding that sucker everyday!

    Super rigid fulla i'm still hanging around the 100kg mark and it is the nuts. A defo crowd pleaser too.



  • The bastards are doing a nice price on the Trek 1500 over here - $2200 Aussie pesos and Mrs the Aussie won't give me budget approval :evil:

    Luigi - I also looked at getting a Lemond Poprad (yes - a cyclocross rig) in order to get something a bit stronger to cart my chubby arse around on, and getting it kitted out with full Ultegra gear and some of these:

    [url="http://velocityusa.com/wheels/road-deepvroad.php"]http://velocityusa.com/wheels/road-deepvroad.php[/url]

    Strong buggers. I'm not a fanatic for super light weight but if I ever get budget approval then these are definitely going on the next rig. A mate of mine just got his Merckx frame in and is just waiting for his components to arrive before slapping it together. He's promised me a go on it but he's got a 63cm frame which might prove a bit of a stretch for me.



  • Thanks for the advice!

    I was thinking of a new bike only when I have - ahem - slimmed down a little. ร‚ย ๐Ÿ˜

    My Dad has a Colnago mouldering in his garage, but I think it will be too small for me. Plus, now that Colnago is outsourcing some of its production to Korea (?) it does seem to have lost some of its cachet as a brand. At a recent Tri exhibition here the UK importer had bikes on show clearly marked as 'made in' the Far East.

    I will check out the Pinarello though.



  • [quote name='Nick the Aussie']
    The bastards are doing a nice price on the Trek 1500 over here - $2200 Aussie pesos and Mrs the Aussie won't give me budget approval :evil:

    Luigi - I also looked at getting a Lemond Poprad (yes - a cyclocross rig) in order to get something a bit stronger to cart my chubby arse around on, and getting it kitted out with full Ultegra gear and some of these:

    [url="http://velocityusa.com/wheels/road-deepvroad.php"]http://velocityusa.com/wheels/road-deepvroad.php[/url]

    Strong buggers. I'm not a fanatic for super light weight but if I ever get budget approval then these are definitely going on the next rig. A mate of mine just got his Merckx frame in and is just waiting for his components to arrive before slapping it together. He's promised me a go on it but he's got a 63cm frame which might prove a bit of a stretch for me.
    [/quote]

    Hey Nick, there's also a bit of a renaissance here in fixed-wheels. Bit of an old-school vibe about riding fixed. Not sure it's for me though.

    Specialized are doing some interesting things with their version called the Langster, plus a cyclocrosser called the TriCross. Some people just don't get on with Specialized, but might be worth a look.

    You can drive yourself nuts with bikes aye.



  • Not to mention broke mate I'm going to keep it simple - strength, durability, and Ultegra.

    This mate of mine with the Merckx (and the Scott CR-1 and the Merlin Cyrene and the Trek 2200 prick) recently rode Adelaide to Darwin in 18 days on his Merlin towing a Yak and loved it. Clocked up 250km (160 miles) one day which is not bad for a bloke in his 40s. Then again, he rode Perth - Sydney in his 30s :nta

    He can't understand why Mrs TA won't give me $3K to blow on biking gear - but then, he's about to sell his shares in the company he owns for a tidy sum



  • [quote name='Nick the Aussie']
    Not to mention broke mate I'm going to keep it simple - strength, durability, and Ultegra.

    This mate of mine with the Merckx (and the Scott CR-1 and the Merlin Cyrene and the Trek 2200 prick) recently rode Adelaide to Darwin in 18 days on his Merlin towing a Yak and loved it. Clocked up 250km (160 miles) one day which is not bad for a bloke in his 40s. Then again, he rode Perth - Sydney in his 30s :nta

    He can't understand why Mrs TA won't give me $3K to blow on biking gear - but then, he's about to sell his shares in the company he owns for a tidy sum
    [/quote]

    You have to give to get Nicky.

    Now that Mrs Luigi has her lovely Trek, operation 'reciprocity' will kick in sometime soon.ร‚ย  :twisted:

    That mate of yours has some serious miles under his wheels aye? At the minute I think 40 miles + is a long drag.

    There's a group of us who might try and get on the London-Paris ride next year - the one that arrives in Paris the day before the Tour. Should be a giggle, cycling through the Kent and French countryside for three days and then watching the finish down the Champs Elysses.



  • [quote name='Luigi']
    Now that Mrs Luigi has her lovely Trek, operation 'reciprocity' will kick in sometime soon.ร‚ย  :twisted:
    [/quote]

    Ah yes - not an option for me until Little Aussie can move under his own pedal power :nta A couple of years methinks... She doesn't get why a $400 MTB breaks down so often but given she and the bike share some common ground :shifty: i.e. occasionally being ridden by me she'd know better



  • [quote name='Nick the Aussie']
    [quote name='Luigi']
    Now that Mrs Luigi has her lovely Trek, operation 'reciprocity' will kick in sometime soon.ร‚ย  :twisted:
    [/quote]

    Ah yes - not an option for me until Little Aussie can move under his own pedal power :nta A couple of years methinks... She doesn't get why a $400 MTB breaks down so often but given she and the bike share some common ground :shifty: i.e. occasionally being ridden by me she'd know better
    [/quote]

    Classic.

    You could try the 'medical scare' con. You're already part way there with the migraines. Imagine if the doc said your long-term health was at risk if you didn't shed some major pounds (which is true anyways), while you worry (out loud) that the life assurance might not kick in as you would like if your health doesn't improve.



  • [quote name='Luigi']
    [quote name='Nick the Aussie']
    Not to mention broke mate I'm going to keep it simple - strength, durability, and Ultegra.

    This mate of mine with the Merckx (and the Scott CR-1 and the Merlin Cyrene and the Trek 2200 prick) recently rode Adelaide to Darwin in 18 days on his Merlin towing a Yak and loved it. Clocked up 250km (160 miles) one day which is not bad for a bloke in his 40s. Then again, he rode Perth - Sydney in his 30s :nta

    He can't understand why Mrs TA won't give me $3K to blow on biking gear - but then, he's about to sell his shares in the company he owns for a tidy sum
    [/quote]

    You have to give to get Nicky.

    Now that Mrs Luigi has her lovely Trek, operation 'reciprocity' will kick in sometime soon.ร‚ย  :twisted:

    That mate of yours has some serious miles under his wheels aye? At the minute I think 40 miles + is a long drag.

    There's a group of us who might try and get on the London-Paris ride next year - the one that arrives in Paris the day before the Tour. Should be a giggle, cycling through the Kent and French countryside for three days and then watching the finish down the Champs Elysses.

    [/quote]

    buying the missus a bike a good ploy.. what i had to do to get my mountain bike.... used to race moutain bikes years ago, haven't been on one for years, the new dual suspension is the shit.ร‚ย  My sat arvo racing has gone out the window in favour of hitting the forest with the boys (and missus occasionally!)

    had to get her a coaching clinic thing cause i can't be arsed teaching her. that went all day so managed to get in a decent 5 hours on sat!



  • [quote name='Luigi']
    Thanks for the advice!

    I was thinking of a new bike only when I have - ahem - slimmed down a little. ร‚ย ๐Ÿ˜

    My Dad has a Colnago mouldering in his garage, but I think it will be too small for me. Plus, now that Colnago is outsourcing some of its production to Korea (?) it does seem to have lost some of its cachet as a brand. At a recent Tri exhibition here the UK importer had bikes on show clearly marked as 'made in' the Far East.

    I will check out the Pinarello though.

    [/quote]

    i think the standard build in the uk was about 2300..

    other bikes that are good value and sweet rides are the kuotas and cervelos



  • [quote name='Nick the Aussie']
    The bastards are doing a nice price on the Trek 1500 over here - $2200 Aussie pesos and Mrs the Aussie won't give me budget approval :evil:

    Luigi - I also looked at getting a Lemond Poprad (yes - a cyclocross rig) in order to get something a bit stronger to cart my chubby arse around on, and getting it kitted out with full Ultegra gear and some of these:

    [url="http://velocityusa.com/wheels/road-deepvroad.php"]http://velocityusa.com/wheels/road-deepvroad.php[/url]

    Strong buggers. I'm not a fanatic for super light weight but if I ever get budget approval then these are definitely going on the next rig. A mate of mine just got his Merckx frame in and is just waiting for his components to arrive before slapping it together. He's promised me a go on it but he's got a 63cm frame which might prove a bit of a stretch for me.
    [/quote]

    63! is he 7 foot tall?!

    treks are dropping their price big time over here as they just haven't been competitive.. Giant have been kicking their arse, seriously about 1-2k cheaper for comparable bikes



  • [quote name='WillieTheWaiter']
    63! is he 7 foot tall?! [/quote]

    Nah closer to 6'6" but he likes to stretch out



  • Quick update:

    Tuesday evening, a nice 10 mile pootle with Mrs Luigi just to get her used to her new pedals. Only one hill climb + an uphill drag to the high point of the area but it was nice to get out and turn the wheels while the weather is good. We met up with one of Mrs L's triathlon mates who has also just bought a new bike, a Giant TCR T-Mobile Hybrid in stealth black, for ร‚ยฃ750! Very nice with composite stays and carbon forks but only running Shimano 105.

    Last night went for another trail run - around 4 miles through the woods - and started off well but came to a bit of halt with my left calf starting to seize up. I've been here before with my rubbish right leg and the only way to get past it is to lose some weight and stop stressing it so much. It's a conundrum: I need to be lighter to exercise properly, but I need to exercise properly to lose weight. Yes, there are plenty of other things I can do like cycling of course or rowing and swimming, but to be honest running gets you there much quicker. Plus, when I run, the aerobic boost I get back on the bike is like having a turbo fitted!

    So I'm going to keep at it (the running that is) because at some point there will be shift when my weight will be low enough to let me run more comfortably and I can start to push out the miles.

    Tonight we are off cycling the 'Hilly Mofo' - the 25 mile or so jaunt around the high spots of the area. Mrs Luigi is coming too and she is worried about keeping up, so I have had to talk her through all the hills in intricate detail beforehand, including what gears to be in etc, etc.

    The weather here is absolutely perfect at the minute. Warm sunny evenings with gentle breezes. It's great to be out there making the most of it but I wish I had done the hard yards last winter in preparation. In some ways I envy you guys in your SH winter as all the work you are doing now will be worth it come December. In contrast, I feel I'm getting fit for Christmas.



  • [quote name='Luigi']
    The weather here is absolutely perfect at the minute. Warm sunny evenings with gentle breezes. It's great to be out there making the most of it but I wish I had done the hard yards last winter in preparation. In some ways I envy you guys in your SH winter as all the work you are doing now will be worth it come December. [/quote]

    Except of course, its too fucking cold. Have had three frosts in the last 5 days here in Sydney and its bloody uncomfortable at night. Still, I haven't had a migraine for three days now so I reckon I'll be back out on the aluminium horse this evening for a bit of punishment.



  • [quote name='Nick the Aussie']
    [quote name='Luigi']
    The weather here is absolutely perfect at the minute. Warm sunny evenings with gentle breezes. It's great to be out there making the most of it but I wish I had done the hard yards last winter in preparation. In some ways I envy you guys in your SH winter as all the work you are doing now will be worth it come December. [/quote]

    Except of course, its too fucking cold. Have had three frosts in the last 5 days here in Sydney and its bloody uncomfortable at night. Still, I haven't had a migraine for three days now so I reckon I'll be back out on the aluminium horse this evening for a bit of punishment.
    [/quote]

    Harden up ya poof!

    ๐Ÿ˜



  • Its not that bad actually, just need the right gear - I'm wearing leg warmers of course but only summer nix. Hence the meat and spuds get a bit chilly on the downslope :shifty:



  • [quote name='Nick the Aussie']
    Its not that bad actually, just need the right gear - I'm wearing leg warmers of course but only summer nix. Hence the meat and spuds get a bit chilly on the downslope :shifty:
    [/quote]

    Now there's an area Mrs The Aussie can't begrudge you some investment?

    Keep at it son, the yards you do now will be water under the bridge as spring unfolds. I wish I'd not gone into hibernating over our winter cos I'm paying for it now.


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