Chiefs v Lions



  • Chiefs team to play the Lions (Sat 5 March, 7.35pm NZT):
     
    Chiefs:

    1. Pauliasi Manu (46)  2. Rhys Marshall (23)  3. Hiroshi Yamashita (1)  4. Michael Allardice (8)  5. Brodie Retallick (60)  6. Tom Sanders (1)  7. Sam Cane (66) co-captain  8. Maama Vaipulu (11)
    2. Tawera Kerr-Barlow (57)  10. Aaron Cruden (57) (co-capt)  11. James Lowe (22)  12. Charlie Ngatai (32)  13. Seta Tamanivalu (7)  14. Latu Vaeno (1)  15. Damian McKenzie (17)
       
      Reserves: 16. Nathan Harris (13)  17. Mitchell Graham (12)  18. Siate Tokolahi (18)  19. Taleni Seu (1)  20. Michael Leitch (13)  21. Brad Weber (25)  22. Anton Lienert-Brown (10)  23. Glen Fisiiahi (debut)


  • Bizarre that they are persisting with that terrible frontrow.



  • Bizarre that they are persisting with that terrible frontrow.

    The personnel aren't the worst individually. Probably just need more time together.
     
    Moody, Franks etc would also be close to the best scrumming unit in the comp so coaches probably don't see the need to go into panic stations.



  • Who do you replace them with?



  • Lions:

    1. Dylan Smith  2. Malcolm Marx  3. Julian Redelinghuys  4. Andries Ferreira  5. Franco Mostert  6. Jaco Kriel  7. Warwick Tecklenburg  8. Warren Whiteley (c)
    2. Faf de Klerk  10. Elton Jantjies  11. Courtnall Skosan  12. Harold Vorster  13. Lionel Mapoe  14. Ruan Combrink  15. Andries Coetzee
       
      Reserves: 16. Akker van der Merwe  17. Corné Fourie  18. Ruan Dreyer  19. Robert Kruger  20. Fabian Booysen  21. Jaco van der Walt  22. Howard Mnisi  23. Rohan Janse van Rensburg.


  • Who do you replace them with?

    Manu, Harris and Tokolahi would be my number one front row till Elliot gets back.
     
    I'm sure Rennie and Barnes have their reasons though. Harris is just coming off a long injury, so I'm guessing they're trying to ease him back in. And with Laulala out, they could just be looking to ease up Tokolahi's workload as much as they can.
     
    Otherwise looks pretty good to me. Great to see Leitch on the bench.



  • Harris played the entire ITM last year for BOP - not sure how long this coming back from injury caper will last for?



  • Seu on the bench? Thought he was Chiefs best forward last week.



  • Seu on the bench? Thought he was Chiefs best forward last week.

    I'm guessing that they want to see how Sanders fits at 6.
     
    The loosie situation at the Chiefs is missing stalwarts in 6 and 8. They need to work out the best combos available and who is also the best bench option. If Sanders, Leitch and Vaipulu can all cover 6 and 8 well then they have plenty of scope through the tournament to cover injuries etc,



  • Manu, Harris and Tokolahi would be my number one front row till Elliot gets back.
     
    I'm sure Rennie and Barnes have their reasons though. Harris is just coming off a long injury, so I'm guessing they're trying to ease him back in. And with Laulala out, they could just be looking to ease up Tokolahi's workload as much as they can.
     
    Otherwise looks pretty good to me. Great to see Leitch on the bench.

    what's wrong with Elliot anyway?
     
    hmm that just triggered a memory from the other night when someone I was talking to was saying they were in the same pub with him recently and he was being a massive bell end.



  • Harris played the entire ITM last year for BOP - not sure how long this coming back from injury caper will last for?

    Forgot about that. Who knows them, maybe Marshall's just impressed them during the preseason.

    what's wrong with Elliot anyway?
     
    hmm that just triggered a memory from the other night when someone I was talking to was saying they were in the same pub with him recently and he was being a massive bell end.

    Concussion issues.



  • Malcom Marx new Bismark?



  • Bardoul can cover 6 and 8 as well. He is a very underrated player IMO. Reminds me of Andy Earl.



  • Interesting that there is no lock on the bench for the Chiefs. Seems to be the way coaches think these days. Risk is if you lose a key lock early, the loosie on the bench covers that role. Bardoul has filled this position in the past (mixed success - a lot better when able to roam) and it appears that they will use Seu in the same fashion.
     
    I'm not a fan of this strategy, the key functions of loose forward and lock are poles apart. It may come off in the final 20, when the graft has been done, but any earlier it may backfire. In fact, I'd say that the Chiefs have done poorly previously using this strategy.



  • Malcom Marx new Bismark?

    Very different player but maybe he will feel less entitled then Bismarck who threw hissy-fits and seemed disinterested ever since that Eden Park test. He's bigger then Bismarck as well.
    Don't really see a pathway to victory for the Lions unless they run up an early lead. But their forwards should keep it close on the scoreboard at least.



  • Interesting that there is no lock on the bench for the Chiefs. Seems to be the way coaches think these days. Risk is if you lose a key lock early, the loosie on the bench covers that role. Bardoul has filled this position in the past (mixed success - a lot better when able to roam) and it appears that they will use Seu in the same fashion.
    I'm not a fan of this strategy, the key functions of loose forward and lock are poles apart. It may come off in the final 20, when the graft has been done, but any earlier it may backfire. In fact, I'd say that the Chiefs have done poorly previously using this strategy.

    Taleni Seu is seen as a lock/loose forward. He is 202cm tall, and I think long-term, they are wanting him to play a bit more at lock



  • Great to see Yamashita starting the same way as last week...



  • Chiefs are looking good early on. Except for their scrum - I really don't know what Yamashita did to impress the coaches.



  • I'm hoping the ref will call these all day...



  • Great to see Yamashita starting the same way as last week...

    Yep, he is so completely out of his depth. It is quite rare that you see props that comprehensively destroyed.



  • Chiefs are looking good early on. Except for their scrum - I really don't know what Yamashita did to impress the coaches.

    Beats me.. Wouldn't need to watch much JP footy to see that he isn't a Super rugby prop.
    He did do better at the last two scrims. But, he should. He fucking has BBBR behind him..
    Anyway, Mckenzie looking for 3 after a bit of wild play.
    3-0.



  • Vaipulu being silly and not rolling away after the tackle. 3-3.



  • Fun game this. A lot of ball movement from both sides



  • 3-6.
    Thought that was a harsh penalty after he just gave one the other way to the Lions for basically the same thing



  • Great try! The offloading in this game is unreal



  • Wow. Taimanivalu goes strong and Sanders is in...



  • 8-6.
    Great to see Taimanivalu beating men and using his strength.



  • Okay ref you've got your pet ruling. But the Lions halfback just fed that in exactly the same spot



  • Bloody hell TKB. He's fucking tapping u on the ass, muppet.



  • Okay ref you've got your pet ruling. But the Lions halfback just fed that in exactly the same spot

    Think that TKB isn't jumping up and down, and the ref is on the



  • This Chiefs tighthead doesn't do much well does he.



  • Fuck.
    Did the Chiefs not watch the Sunwolves game last week? The lions love trying to hold the ball runner up. What is that? The third time?



  • FFS. See that put-in, ref???



  • Bad body height and then a nothing clean out. Boom turnover and try coming



  • I hate it when refs call the scrum feed up. If the ball is put in straight, no one can get the ball. Why is that even still a rule?
     
    Lions are looking pretty good.



  • Tell you what, he's consistent. He's shit around the field and at the scrum.



  • 8-13 and the Chiefs need to do something about their set piece.



  • Lions dominating scrums but to be fair to the Chiefs.... Their scrum have dominated all the fellow SA teams for the last 2 seasons as well.



  • Stupidity. Just stupid.
    Having said that, no roll away there either ref, remember? What u penalized us for about 5 minutes ago?



  • 8-16.
    Getting away from the Chiefs suddenly.


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