Split Topic - Stroke and Sport



  • that really sucks, but good decision.
    A guy i played rugby with for years up here collapsed and died after a game on the weekend (not sure why yet), leaving a wife and 3 young kids. That shit is scary.
    Yep, v. Good decision by Ita.
    Similar to your story M4L, is my wee tale of how I nearly left my wife a widow after 5 months of marriage.
    Was playing touch and starting getting slightly blurry vision in one eye, falling over a bit, feeling a bit nauseous. Asked the manager to look at my eye, she had a look and said 'nah, looks fine'.
    So sat down, felt better, played on, reffed a game, then ran home (3.5kms).
    Had a shower, sat down on the couch and starting stroking out. Took the wife a while to figure out what the fuck was going on (she was like 'have you been taking drugs') and after she realized it was a bad deal she got me in an ambo and we made it in time (hospo is 4 mins away) to prevent any really loooong term damage.
    No idea how long it is that I had had the condition (blood vessel problem in the back of my head) that caused me to stroke, but as it is easy to manage, no brain surgery for me. On the other hand, no more rugby, basketball, or snowboarding for me.
    Anyway, I was running half marathons and was pretty fit, so you don't know who's next. It's actually a lot more common for people in their 20s and 30s to stroke out than you'd think.
    So, if you're out and about with someone who is looking more unco than normal, remember your FAST (http://www.stroke.org/understand-stroke/recognizing-stroke/act-fast) and I'd suggest checking people's eyes too. After a head knock, see if they are blown out and dilated (especially if one is blown and the other is ok).
    My doctor explained to me that if I'd known what to look for, I miiigght have been able to avoid the big stroke - she reckons I was having TIAS (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_ischemic_attack) when I was playing footy and if I'd recognized the symptoms I might have been able to get in before falling off the couch.



  • Wow!  That is incredible GT.



  • Excellent post GT, thanks for that.



  • incredible post GT, that's scary shit!



  • I have split the topic so more people might read it.



  • An ex girlfriend of mine went to the same college as Christian Cullen, there was a bloke there who apparently was every bit as good as Cully ( we'll never know obviously ) who dropped dead from something similar to this at a very young age, bout 16 or so. Due to his fitness and youth pretty much the last person on earth you'd expect this to happen to. Horrible stuff.



  • I caught part of a story on TV recently and I keep thinking I should watch it.
     
    http://attitudelive.com/documentary/stroke-effect



  • Excellent stuff GT12 for sharing your story, and BSG for splitting the topic to raise awareness.
     
    FAST should be on school agendas these days, just like CPR (if it's not, already), everybody should know this.



  • Luckily nothing bad happened but I was sitting on a DVT time bomb for I don't know how long.
    Basically the surface vein down the inside of my left leg was clogged from just below my groin to and across my ankle.
    Started to get a bit swollen and sore late last year just below my knee, so asked the doc when I was in seeing him about something else.
    Sure enough was riddled with it.
    Although it was in the surficial vein that i noticed it, and that apparently is not so bad: it's the DEEP vein thrombosis that causes the pulmonary embolisms, I had a couple of those too (edit: the DVT, not the embolisms - or I wouldn't be typing this 🙂 .)
    I would never have known. A couple of aches in my calf seemed like sore muscles. So I can fully understand these things blindsiding people.
    Luckily now there's new drugs that aren't as harsh as rat poison (warfarin) to control the clots.
    Given I'm now late 40s some health problems are to be expected. But you wouldn't expect it so much in young fit athletes.
    Glad you made it through GT12.



  • Doesn't sound like much fun booboo!
    I've managed to get off Warfarin and blood thinners (can't fucking imagine that Ita was playing while taking them!!) so can fall over without having the wife start checking the insurance payout.
    Given the injuries that rugby players sustain, I can't imagine trying to play while taking them.



  • Rivaroxaban (trade name Xarelto) is the new less toxic ratsak apparently.
    Hasn't killed me yet :).
    Doc reckons i was "lucky" with my timing that the drug had been developed recently.
    I love Big Pharma :).
    Was concerning for a while but given the noticeable swelling/clotting has gone i reckon I'm pretty much all good. Still on drugs though.
    Don't seem to bleed uncontrollably but there's warnings that you won't clot well.
    As I say I DIDN'T have a stroke or pulmonary embolism, and I don't know how you would detect it if it was just a clot buried deep in the calf. So I consider myself lucky.



  • An ex girlfriend of mine went to the same college as Christian Cullen, there was a bloke there who apparently was every bit as good as Cully ( we'll never know obviously ) who dropped dead from something similar to this at a very young age, bout 16 or so. Due to his fitness and youth pretty much the last person on earth you'd expect this to happen to. Horrible stuff.

    Cullen wrote about that in his book and said it really affected him.



  • An ex girlfriend of mine went to the same college as Christian Cullen, there was a bloke there who apparently was every bit as good as Cully ( we'll never know obviously ) who dropped dead from something similar to this at a very young age, bout 16 or so. Due to his fitness and youth pretty much the last person on earth you'd expect this to happen to. Horrible stuff.

    Was that Daryl Cherry? He had a heart attack at about 16 and died a year or so later, poor bugger. I'm pretty sure he was from paekak too.



  • Was that Daryl Cherry? He had a heart attack at about 16 and died a year or so later, poor bugger. I'm pretty sure he was from paekak too.

    Yeah name rings a bell, can't find Cullens book, I'm sure I have it somewhere. I did think it was a stroke though. Our ol boy Paeks should be able to confirm if he reads this thread.....



  • Yeah name rings a bell, can't find Cullens book, I'm sure I have it somewhere. I did think it was a stroke though. Our ol boy Paeks should be able to confirm if he reads this thread.....

    Apparently it was two heart attacks in six months. Cullen dedicated his test debut to him.



  • Yeah name rings a bell, can't find Cullens book, I'm sure I have it somewhere. I did think it was a stroke though. Our ol boy Paeks should be able to confirm if he reads this thread.....

    Can confirm bro - they were a primo combo for Kapiti College's first 15. I was a few years behind Cully and those two were giants. I remember Daryl was bigger and just as talented. I think he'd left school by then (Cully stayed as he was eligible for another year of NZ schoolboys) but everyone who played rugby at our school went to his funeral. Fark, that's a distant memory - that was the first funeral outside of family passings I'd been too. Really sad.


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