Waratahs v Brumbies



  • Waratahs:

    1. Benn Robinson (147 caps)  2. Hugh Roach (11 caps)  3. Tom Robertson (3 caps)  4. Dean Mumm (91 caps)  5. Will Skelton (43 caps)  6. Jack Dempsey (8 caps)  7. Michael Hoopah (C – 86 caps)  8. Jed Holloway (9 caps)
    2. Nick Phipps (87 caps)  10. Bernard Foley (67 caps)  11. Matt Carraro (45 caps)  12. Kurtley Beale (119 caps)  13. Israel Folau (50 caps)  14. Reece Robinson (3 caps)  15. Andrew Kellaway (1 cap)
       
      Reserves:
    3. James Hilterbrand (3 caps)  17. Paddy Ryan (67 caps)  18. Angus Ta’avao (53 caps)  19. Sam Lousi (9 caps)  20. Wycliff Palu (125 caps)  21. David Dennis (97 caps)  22. Matt Lucas (17 caps)  23. David Horwitz (5 caps)
       
      Kurtley Beale and Will Skelton returning from injury, while Zac Guildford is ruled out because of a broken foot.
       
       
      Brumbies:
    4. Scott Sio  2. Stephen Moore (c)  3. Ben Alexander  4. Rory Arnold  5. Sam Carter  6. Scott Fardy  7. Jarrad Butler  8. Jordan Smiler
    5. Tomás Cubelli  10. Christian Lealiifano (c)  11. Joe Tomane  12. Matt Toomua  13. Tevita Kuridrani  14. Robbie Coleman  15. Aidan Toua
       
      Reserves
    6. Josh Mann-Rea  17. Allan Alaalatoa  18. Leslie Leulua’iali’i-Makin  19. Tom Staniforth  20. Michael Wells  21. Joe Powell  22. James Dargaville  23. Nigel Ah Wong
       
      Jarrad Butler returns from injury and takes the place left open by David Pocock (suspended), while Jordan Smiler replaces retired Ita Vaea in the starting line-up.


  • Tough game for Kellaway to get his first start - and at fullback too - more of a runner from what i've seen.
    Taavao pays the price for a poor season, Folau at centre to finally be tried after injury forced a backline reshuffle for Rebels game.



  • Many Aussie fans have been calling for the Folau at centre for some time. He's a good fullback because he's got the aerial skills and has a much improved kicking game. But some fans want to see him more involved and closer to the action. Should be a good contest with the Brumbies midfield



  • Many Aussie fans have been calling for the Folau at centre for some time. He's a good fullback because he's got the aerial skills and has a much improved kicking game. But some fans want to see him more involved and closer to the action. Should be a good contest with the Brumbies midfield

    I always read that as coming from the Sydney league press who always act astounded that league players that move to union aren't put in positions where they continually get handed the ball.
    There is nothing stopping Folau from contributing more with ball in hand. Look at the amount of carries little DMac has for the Chiefs from fullback.



  • I always read that as coming from the Sydney league press who always act astounded that league players that move to union aren't put in positions where they continually get handed the ball.
    There is nothing stopping Folau from contributing more with ball in hand. Look at the amount of carries little DMac has for the Chiefs from fullback.

    Folau does carry the ball a lot though. 
     
    He's played 390 minutes this year and carried the ball 49 times
    Dmac has played 560 minutes and carried 73 times.
     
    So whilst MacKenzie does carry the ball slightly more, it's less than 1 extra carry per 80 minutes of footy.
     
     
    I prefer him at fullback personally. His best traits are as mentioned above, his aerial skillz and kicking game IMO.



  • I always read that as coming from the Sydney league press who always act astounded that league players that move to union aren't put in positions where they continually get handed the ball.
    There is nothing stopping Folau from contributing more with ball in hand. Look at the amount of carries little DMac has for the Chiefs from fullback.

    It's not so much his workrate with ball in hand, it's more they see a guy that is 6'4-6'5, tough and quick and he should be exploiting players in the midfield to set up other players around him or get past the advantage line.



  • I seem to recall similar cries of 'he doesn't get enough ball' for Tuqiri as well, along with the commentators creaming themselves when he did get the ball (and ran sideways evading tackles but making minimum metres).



  • It's not so much his workrate with ball in hand, it's more they see a guy that is 6'4-6'5, tough and quick and he should be exploiting players in the midfield to set up other players around him or get past the advantage line.

    So what's the fern verdict then?
    Do I sell him from my fantasy team and maybe grab that Cheetahs winger instead, or leave him and hope he busts some tackles in order to get close to his average fullback score?
    I'm neck and neck with a mate I am yet to beat, no room for error!



  • He should get a lot more tackles made at centre. Though I haven't done fantasy in a while so unsure how many points that is worth.



  • Tough game for Kellaway to get his first start - and at fullback too - more of a runner from what i've seen.Taavao pays the price for a poor season, Folau at centre to finally be tried after injury forced a backline reshuffle for Rebels game.

    His absence has nothing to do with his performance. Apparently, Ta'avao is not in the line-up because he's in Tonga for his grandmother's funeral.



  • His absence has nothing to do with his performance. Apparently, Ta'avao is not in the line-up because he's in Tonga for his grandmother's funeral.

    I see. In that case i'm assuming they've had a typo by naming Ta'avao on the bench?



  • I see. In that case i'm assuming they've had a typo by naming Ta'avao on the bench?

    The reason given for that is that he is expected to return to Sydney on game day.



  • So what's the fern verdict then?
    Do I sell him from my fantasy team and maybe grab that Cheetahs winger instead, or leave him and hope he busts some tackles in order to get close to his average fullback score?
    I'm neck and neck with a mate I am yet to beat, no room for error!

    I'm probably on the sell. I imagine tries score heavily in your fantasy comp and he's less likely to score them at centre.



  • I'm sticking with him. He usually breaks the first tackle and will get more offloads in midfield, so I'm hoping that makes up for the reduction in metres gained. (Also more tackles as NQ said)
     
    He's still better at centre than whatever outside back I can replace him with at this point.
     
    What FR game are you playing? I'm loving http://fantasyrugbydraft.com/



  • as we know, the mid-field is a hugely tough place to defend, so that will be a big change for him.



  • I'm torn about this. He's a big lad with skills who should get the ball more often, but his greatest strengths are his aerial ability and boot.  I think he plays best with more space too.



  • If I was the coach I'd play him at fullback for sure, but I think he still has value in Fantasy Rugby played out of position.



  • I'm sticking with him. He usually breaks the first tackle and will get more offloads in midfield, so I'm hoping that makes up for the reduction in metres gained. (Also more tackles as NQ said)
     
    He's still better at centre than whatever outside back I can replace him with at this point.
     
    What FR game are you playing? I'm loving http://fantasyrugbydraft.com/

    www.testrugby.com
    definitely still in two minds, surely I'll get a couple of tries from that Cheetahs winger against the sunwolves, home game for the Cheetahs too



  • www.testrugby.com
    definitely still in two minds, surely I'll get a couple of tries from that Cheetahs winger against the sunwolves, home game for the Cheetahs too

    Right. Yeah, I wouldn't have bought him if I'd known he'd be starting at centre, but now I have him I'll wait and see what happens.



  • Got the Brumbies to win this.


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