Brisbane Global 10s



  • The two-day, 10-a-side tournament, billed as the Brisbane Global 10s, will be staged at Suncorp Stadium on February 11 and 12 after Duco Events secured multimillion-dollar Brisbane City Council and Queensland government funding for the next four years.
    The event will feature 500 players, 14 teams from six countries, $1.55million in appearance fees and prizemoney and is expected to be broadcast in 20 different markets, including France and Sky Sports UK
     
    Teams will include:
    All 5 Aus Super Rugby teams
    All 5 NZ Super Rugby teams
    Toulon (France)
    Panasonic Wild Knights (Japan)
    Bulls (South Africa)
    Samoa 10s
     
    Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/super-rugby-10s-global-tournament-bound-for-brisbane-20160709-gq29r5.html#ixzz4E0CZHzdE 
     
    I'm thinking this is how the team would be selected.
     
    2 Props
    1 Hooker
    3. Locks/Loose Forwards
    2. Halves
    2. Centres/Outside Backs
     
    Thoughts??
     
    Also if they are going to do this they may aswell run the Sprint contest that some of the Ferners were talking about a few days ago.



  • WTF



  • Geez, that's 2 weeks after the Wellington 7s, one week after the Sydney 7s. The NRL 9s in Auckland are also in February. Isn't it a bit too much for February?



  • There is a bit of a financial carrot, however this could end up as a shit storm if there is a massive injury toll weeks out from Super Rugby kickoff.



  • It seems to me that they are doing what I have thought they should do for a while - improve the public involvement in preseason.
     
    For years they have been playing preseason games amongst themselves with minimal crowds and making no money off it. It's even been hard to find any footage at all.
     
    This way a decent number of guys get a hit-out and they can make some money off it, but most important of all, we get to see it!



  • C4L, tens isn't a new game. 5-5 split.
    Ho do 500 players go into 14 teams?



  • Odd



  • Not sure why posters are baffled. The Super Rugby franchises want this. They've all agreed to enter. They would otherwise be playing a pre-season game a fortnight out from the season so why not do it in a tournament setting where they can cycle through their entire squad. And if someone is going to cover their costs and give them some prize money they'd be daft not to accept the invite.
     
    They'd otherwise we playing in Levin or Motueka with 12-man reserve benches.



  • Why aren't the South Africans involved?



  • Not sure why posters are baffled. The Super Rugby franchises want this. They've all agreed to enter. They would otherwise be playing a pre-season game a fortnight out from the season so why not do it in a tournament setting where they can cycle through their entire squad. And if someone is going to cover their costs and give them some prize money they'd be daft not to accept the invite.
     
    They'd otherwise we playing in Levin or Motueka with 12-man reserve benches.

    It just seems unlikely to me that people will watch it.



  • Why aren't the South Africans involved?

    Maybe they think they play enough 10 man rugby throughout the year?



  • Maybe they think they play enough 10 man rugby throughout the year?

    good idea. Super preseason is a bag of rubbish usually anyway.



  • It just seems unlikely to me that people will watch it.

    I think people will watch it. I just think some of those people may be less likely to watch the other tournaments in February as well. Just too many tournaments in one month.
     
    As for injuries, playing an 80-minute preseason game on a soft, muddy field on a farm may be just as risky as playing a few 10s games on a real rugby field.
     
    Looking forward to it! Step aside Auckland 9s ... (because union is so much better to watch than league).



  • As for injuries, playing an 80-minute preseason game on a soft, muddy field on a farm may be just as risky as playing a few 10s games on a real rugby field.

    Real rugby field. Brisbane in February?



  • Real rugby field. Brisbane in February?

    Dunno, is Suncorp that bad in Feb? Or are you referring to its use for football? Obviously, I was making a comparison with shitty farm fields.



  • Well, best of luck to them. Fuck that humidity and likely temps in the 30s.



  • Why aren't the South Africans involved?

    You mean other than the Bulls?



  • you'd have to think under the NZ model, the NZRU would pick up any prize money and maybe just give bonuses to players (who are likely to be WTG players, surely?)



  • The article in the SST said each team would be using squads of up to 40 players.  That would be your full squad + WTG.  Overkill really.



  • I am glad its Super teams and not some other concoction. I'll be watching



  • Dunno, is Suncorp that bad in Feb? Or are you referring to its use for football? Obviously, I was making a comparison with shitty farm fields.

    Depends if it rains.



  • The had exactly the same thing about 20 years ago. I remember Bull Allen doing his thing for the Canes. Think Cullen was injured at the time. I remember it being a pretty good concept. Not sure why it has been shelved for so long.
    The problem in Brisbane in February isn't the rain but the heat.



  • 10s in Brisbane in Feb?
    Pfffffft. That's not 10s! 10s is supposed to be played barefoot, at 8:00 am, in a frost.



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  • Well no doubt the concept will work for the first year or two.
     
    I'd be interested in the details about who pays for the travel of such largish squads. Also if it's a WTG thing or if the teams have to guarantee some big names.
     
    From a coach's point of view it's a bit disrupting as it's not really a chance to sort combinations, lineout drills or really too much in terms of 15 a side tactics. 
     
    Pretty much just a chance at some team bonding and a cash grab as far as I can see



  • Well no doubt the concept will work for the first year or two.
     
    I'd be interested in the details about who pays for the travel of such largish squads. Also if it's a WTG thing or if the teams have to guarantee some big names.
     
    From a coach's point of view it's a bit disrupting as it's not really a chance to sort combinations, lineout drills or really too much in terms of 15 a side tactics. 
     
    Pretty much just a chance at some team bonding and a cash grab as far as I can see

    Given the squad sizes will be 35-36 players, I doubt there is much room for the main players not to be there. Most of the big name players will have one maybe two hitouts for a half or so in a preseason game. With the financial incentives I think there will be genuine interest from the franchises to do well so will send quality



  • The Brisbane Tens draw has just taken place.

    Pool A - Rebels, Chiefs, Wild Knights, Waratahs
    Pool B - Reds, Blues, Samoa, Crusaders
    Pool C - Brumbies, Highlanders, Bulls
    Pool D - Force, Hurricanes, Toulon



  • Looks like they are trying to make this as hard to follow as it's older brother.

    2 pools of 4 and 2 pools of 3 .... riiigghhtttt



  • Yes. My first reaction was wtf is up with those pools. It is pretty hard to divide 14 evenly apparently.



  • Wonder why they went for 14 teams, instead of 16 or 12.



  • 14 teams?
    Sounds like a right balls up already.
    How the hell does that even work? Do pool a and b just have to suck it up and play an extra game? Or do pool c & d have to randomly play one team in their pool twice?

    Either way, totally unbalanced and unfair.
    Makes a bit of a mockery of the whole thing before it has even begun.



  • This is what the Brisbane 10s Twitter account posted yesterday, but it doesn't say anything about the pool stage:

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  • As you'd expect... each team in pools C & D play one of the teams from the other 3-team pool.
    Only really an issue if there are 3 evenly matched teams in one pool-of-3, but wide difference in quality in the other.



  • you'd think they of had more than 14 wanting in, so there must be a reason for it surely, rather than oh shit 14 doesn't divide into 4 evenly



  • Lack of hotel rooms in Brisbane?
    But yeah - really odd to not just have 2 more teams, and a suddenly un-weird format.
    Surely at least 2 more Saffa teams would have been keen. And/or the Argies.



  • I bet they coulda thrown together another nz team too if the reason was just team numbers



  • Here's the draw for the tournament:

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  • Draw in NZT:

    Blues Chiefs Crusaders Highlanders Hurricanes
    Day 1 (11 Feb) Day 1 (11 Feb) Day 1 (11 Feb) Day 1 (11 Feb) Day 1 (11 Feb)
    3.56pm v Reds 3.00pm v Rebels 5.30pm v Samoa 4.57pm v Brumbies 7.01pm v Force
    9.28pm v Samoa 7.33pm v Waratahs 9.00pm v Reds 10.00pm v Hurricanes 10.00pm v Highlanders
    Day 2 (12 Feb) Day 2 (12 Feb) Day 2 (12 Feb) Day 2 (12 Feb) Day 2 (12 Feb)
    2.22pm v Crusaders 1.27pm v Wild Knights 2.22pm v Blues 3.17pm v Bulls 2.50pm v Toulon


  • If true, then that's really disappointing. Also a bit harsh on the likes of DMac, Rieko Ioane, TKB, George Moala and Lima Sopoaga, who didn't get much game time during the EOYT, and JBarrett & Seta Tamanivalu (called up late) who didn't play at all for the ABs.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/88699422/no-current-all-blacks-will-be-released-for-brisbane-global-tens--report

    Edited to add that there's also a positive: second-stringers and players on the fringes of the ABs, who haven't made the squad (yet), will hopefully get decent game time. Players like James Lowe, Jordan Taufua, Brad Weber, Richie Mo'unga etc.



  • should come as no surprise really, the collective agreement states they must have the 12 week window after EOYT, been that way for a while hasn't it?


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