When the kids Girl 9 and Boy 6 get past the listening/reasoning stage I calmly start taking their doors off and say 1 day 1 week or 1 month, if they haven't settled i move straight to the next time frame, now by the time I get to 1 week you can see the already know they need to change their additude and fast.
Also helps to grease pins before the situation to avoid losing it just because you can't get the door off
And of course stick to the time line, don't put it back on for good behavior but use any requests to reiterate that this is what happens with bad behavior
Not so much fun when kids are like this but in some sence it's good to know that it is still somewhat normal
It was also only this Tuesday that their doors went back on too