@MN5 said in Music Reviews:

@JC said in Music Reviews:

@Salacious-Crumb said in Music Reviews:

@JC

I don’t think there’s any judge or jury who would award California the entire value of that song unless Zepp’s legal team did something egregious that insulted them all.

What would be hilarious is if Plant and Page had different lawyers, and Plant’s legal team said, “hey, our guy wrote all the lyrics, you get none of that; you want a share, go after his” - pointing finger at Jimmy’s lawyers.

I wish I had your faith in juries. The final nail in that coffin was when a jury awarded Rebel Wilson $4.5m because a magazine told the truth about her and caused her hurty feelings. Seems to me that in many of these cases juries see their job as being some kind of de facto wealth redistribution body. If they perceive you’ve got money they’re going to stick it to you just out of spite.

Balancing the ledger though, and to cheer us all up, here’s Vanilla Ice’s ironclad defence against Queen and Bowie. If you listen really closely you can hear his lawyers locking themselves in their studies and taking their revolvers from their desk drawers.

Vanilla Ice is a fucken legend. Definitely the best white boy rapper that's ever lived.

I love the song, but the best white boy rapper? Does Marshall Mathers not take that title?

@JC In other words it's total BS

@JC said in Music Reviews:

@Salacious-Crumb said in Music Reviews:

@JC

I don’t think there’s any judge or jury who would award California the entire value of that song unless Zepp’s legal team did something egregious that insulted them all.

What would be hilarious is if Plant and Page had different lawyers, and Plant’s legal team said, “hey, our guy wrote all the lyrics, you get none of that; you want a share, go after his” - pointing finger at Jimmy’s lawyers.

I wish I had your faith in juries. The final nail in that coffin was when a jury awarded Rebel Wilson $4.5m because a magazine told the truth about her and caused her hurty feelings. Seems to me that in many of these cases juries see their job as being some kind of de facto wealth redistribution body. If they perceive you’ve got money they’re going to stick it to you just out of spite.

Balancing the ledger though, and to cheer us all up, here’s Vanilla Ice’s ironclad defence against Queen and Bowie. If you listen really closely you can hear his lawyers locking themselves in their studies and taking their revolvers from their desk drawers.

I didn't realise he didn't formally ask to use the "Pressure" sample, but I'm not surprised. Examples like that and the Bittersweet Symphony instance are easy to spot. The Blurred Lines, Love is a wonderful thing (Bolton), and the upcoming Thinking out loud (Sheeran) cases are pretty tenuous to me. How can you copyright a sound or a style? The first two are blatant plagiarism, the final 3 in my opinion show influences, but aren't plagiarism. Gaye's estate seem to be on an aggressive money grab. Bruno Mars' success has seen him suffer similar attacks.

@Salacious-Crumb said in Music Reviews:

It is known that LZ played on same bills with Spirit when they played Taurus. (We also know that Plant had a deep affection for late 60s California rock, be it from the north (Moby Grape) or the south (Love) and seems to me implausible that he didn’t know what Spirit was doing, all the more after Twelve Dreams of Dr Sardonicus was released, that record was in every rock collection back then.)

I don’t believe the co-opting is deiberate, I reckon it’s deep in the subconscious, a buried memory, in the same way that George Harrison had the rhythm & melody of “He’s So Fine” (doo-lang doo-lang doo-lang) in his head when he wrote & recorded “My Sweet Lord” and it simply never dawned on him.

I agree. There are lots of songs which sort of sound similar, I think many of the plagiarism cases are BS, those launched by the Marvin Gaye estate vs Robin Thicke and Ed Sheeran didn't sound that similar

@Salacious-Crumb said in Music Reviews:

@canefan

I thought it was settled too, but if you read the article (published 3 or 4 days ago) it spells out they’re going for another kick at the can, and chances look more promising. It probably would have behooved LZ to settle this years ago, like they did with several songwriters they coopted on their first couple albums, they paid some money quietly and changed songwriting credits. This could be a whopper!

They were probably so jacked up on drugs at the time that they didn't even realize they'd co-oped that riff

@Salacious-Crumb said in Music Reviews:

Not a review as such, but not exactly “what I’m listening to” thread-material.

Anyway, this case is not going away.

People Laughed When This Philly Lawyer Sued Led Zeppelin. Nobody’s Laughing Now

Francis Malofiy may be the most hated man in the Philadelphia legal community. He may also be on the cusp of getting the last laugh on rock’s golden gods.

https://www.phillymag.com/news/2019/02/11/francis-malofiy-led-zeppelin/#cPFdsrPCzWHxdX5Z.99

I was fortunate enough to meet Randy California back in the mid-1980s, he was playing with Spirit, they were the headliners, on a bill with Canned Heat and Country Joe & The Fish, and no word of a lie there was no more than 25-30 paying customers, most of whom sat at tables in the back of a caverous club. It felt humiliating staning in fron of the stage with my friend and there wasn’t even one single other person within 20 feet of that stage. So when I met Randy, I felt real-real bad for him.

I thought this case was heard last year. I've heard the descending intro of the Spirit song, it's farken Stairway (or more correctly Stairway is Taurus). They wrote it at a time when they toured and Taurus was their opening act. I don't know how they got away with it last time, or maybe it's the same trial?

@jegga said in NZ Politics:

@canefan said in NZ Politics:

@booboo said in NZ Politics:

@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:

How are we meant to move away from a culture of violence towards women ...

The fuck? Did he beat her up in the ad?

Some people have a hair trigger because that ad is pretty innocuous. What do they expect to see, a woman manning the bbq? Not in my house mate

Did they assume the person on the bbqs gender?

I dunno mate, I watched the ad and thought nothing of it really. Perhaps they should have had 3 lezzas having a clam bake?

@MajorRage said in China:

China bullying.

In other news, the sky is blue.

The strongest always bully. Or did I miss the whole western colonization period thing? Or the west fighting over the Middle East thing? Or the US arranging assassinations in Central America?

So let me get this straight

1. She turned her back on her country to go to live and presumably fight with the enemy
2. She wants to return to the country she despises to use their healthcare to give birth to her little terrorist, and raise him/her in the relative peace and privilege of the West?

If I was making the decision it would be

@booboo said in NZ Politics:

@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:

How are we meant to move away from a culture of violence towards women ...

The fuck? Did he beat her up in the ad?

Some people have a hair trigger because that ad is pretty innocuous. What do they expect to see, a woman manning the bbq? Not in my house mate