@phoenetia They've put the blanket title of 'alt-right' or 'far right' onto anyone who doesn't follow leftist ideology. From Charlottesville Alt-right is now murderous nazism. This really scares me.
I dont see people calling Conservatives the alt-right however I feel that Conservatives aren't quite as vocal with their condemnation of the Alt Right as they should be and thats been my view on this forum too. Ive seen Alt Right points/memes parroted here before (not the racist variety) however I struggle to recall any Right leaning folk here ever calling out the Alt Right on their more offensive positions (thats not to say its never happened, I've just not seen it when I've been browsing here). Because of that, I tend towards thinking that most RW folk are ok with the Alt Right because I see more agreement rather than condemnation for them.
I can see where your concerns stem from and how you may feel a target because of others whose beliefs you dont share.
It sounds similar to the fear of many on the left who feel that Charlottesville is evidence of emboldened White Supremacists rising up and that the presidents failure to call it out adequately will result in it growing in popularity.
The next conflict between the Far Left and the Far Right will be very violent. There are thugs in the ANTIFA who seem to be spoiling for a fight; Charlottesville was a clear display of presence and firepower from the White Supremacists and no doubt ANTIFA will want to knock them down a number of pegs. What follows is going to be ugly and bloody.
I think ANTIFA will be even more emboldened. The media and politicians have basically said they can do whatever they want because. .. Nazis .
It is bloody retarded to think peace and unity will be achieved by only blaming one side.
As for us defending the alt right. I don't even know who that is supposed to be. Seems to be whoever disagrees with the left. As for "offensive positions" ...offensive according to who? Are you going to start calling out over the positions the neo Marxists have ' that others might find "offensive"?
ANTIFA has always considered themselves justified in their actions - from their perspective, they're fighting the fascists and racists. When it comes to NeoNazis / White Supremacists, its very much about not being silent like what happened in Germany as Nazism rose to prominence.
Offensive = racist.
Like I said before, it isn't everyone who disagrees with the left but if one is parroting their talking points and memes in the same vocabulary, well, one might find themselves mistaken for an alt righter(?).
Who are the Neo Marxists? Are they the same as Cultural Marxists? Are they all Alt Left? Ive never even heard of anyone identifying as Neo Marxist. Please let me know if I should be triggered
Hang on.. how does it matter how ANTIFA see themselves? I am sure the White Nationalists see themselves as fighting evil as well. ANTIFA are fascists. They are petty much carbon copies of Hitlers crew.
As for offensive equaling racism? Fair enough.. but a couple of questions.. do you believe people can be racist towards whites? And why stop at skin colour.. why not find it offensive when you assess and judge people based on immutable traits.. i.e identity politics.. which is now the default position of the left.
You have never heard of anyone identifying as neo Marxist? I have. I havent heard of people identifying as alt right either, I mainly hear people being labelled as alt right.
And you still havent really clarified what the alt right is.
ANTIFA are AntiFascists, I know you know that. One can claim to be antifascist and not be ostracized, the same cannot be said of White Supremacists. People will openly support those who stick up for minorities. They dont tend to do so for White Supremacists.
How do you arrive at ANTIFA being carbon copies of Hitlers crew?
Yes, racism against whites is possible.
Its the historical legacy of racism and the shame thats attached to it that makes it so combustible compared to other forms of discrimination.