Stayed two nights in Mangonui - fish and chips are a bit overrated, they're Oz style, not NZ style, but the pineapple rings they do there are awesome.
Yes, the Mangonui fish 'n' chips were nothing special and over-priced. But you have to try them once though. 🙂
The Thai restaurant there was very good.
We were deciding between the Thai place and the Indian place and went with the Indian place - it was really good too.
@J77 We had Jimmy Jacks in Paihia, and yep they were very good, not comparable with Hurricanes in Sydney but still nice and decent value for money.
I’ve been to Hurricanes in Sydney. They had the massive steak challenge there at the time. My fucking eyes were dragging on the ground when I came out.
Shit, need to change the title of this thread to “where to avoid and eat in Northland”. Had to scroll up to remember what the original topic was about!
Did you go to Hurricanes and not have ribs. Please don't tell me you did that - I've enjoyed our discussion on this thread, but if you went to Hurricanes and didn't have ribs you're dead to me. 😉
Haha I guess I’m dead then! The steak challenge was so bloody taxing I did not want to even think about ribs.
I'm speaking over your grave now. Next time you're in Sydney, have the f-ing ribs. It's Hurricanes ribs, not Hurricanes steak house.
I actually went to a staff lunch one time and out of the 10 of us, only two of us had ribs. The worst thing about it was that it was agreed to by everyone and work paid. I had a whole rack and kumara chips so had leftover ribs for lunch the next day too.
You sound like my bloody sister, she was telling me I was an idiot for not doing ribs! That’s her local go to as well, I’ll be taking both your advice and going ribs when I’m over there in November.. happy? 😛
She's a wise lady your sister!
If you go ribs crazy and want some cheap good value ribs the Moore Park Hotel does $15 ribs on Thursdays which are as I say good value.
@mohikamo some very good coms, I can remember attending club games in the Bay of Islands in the 70s and the quality in the Bay at the time was very good and well supported..and then attending the Harding Shield rally days and those games were another level.Even Hokianga who were the weakest of the 6 sub union teams would never roll over..
One area I know Northland really struggles with is trying to retain really promising youngsters, and to be honest you can’t blame parents for letting their kids take up a scholarship at an Auckland secondary school..there are many examples of kids that gone to Auckland and have ended up in either the Auckland system or have been picked by other franchises..we get the odd or 2 back, but in the whole a lot of the cream gets picked off..I must reiterate again I have no issue with that, if I were a parent I would be encouraging my child to the same thing..
I was told on Saturday that the current Auckland under 19 team has 6 Northlanders in their top side , The Auckland development has 3 Northlanders , both Matt Storm and Johnny Cooper and there’s one other that escapes my mind and the Auckland top side Waimana Reidlinger Kapa who I know would dearly love to come home and play for Northland..
The dynamics of the early years have changed, it’s very difficult to put a senior club team together in a rural area when many of your young males have moved away from an area because of lack of work..you do need a strong local community bond and a couple of strong driven coaches and they need to be supported 100%
I stopped into Okaihau yesterday on my way back from visiting Whanau at a fantastic Cafe,Kiwi Kai, I recommend it big time, the best pulled pork Panini I have tasted, ordered a 2nd one it was that good..
I looked out on to the street remembering passing a rugby ball across the street with my team mates as on a Saturday morning waiting for car pooling parents to pick us up.
There were some young boys from Okaihau college during the lunch break walking down the street passing a rugby ball, a couple of these kids were sizeable lads as well..
I spoke to the owner of Kiwi Kai , Murray Smith ,he told me that his nephew was Tom Smith who made his debut for the Taniwha on Saturday ..what a small world I thought ..
Murray also mentioned there was a ton of young talent around but it need good structures and more importantly a good competitive competition which really brings the cream to the top .
Thats something I remembered about the Bay of Islands competition in the 1970s..waiting for the club results to come through on radio Northland ,most of the games would be extremely close ..and of course the bottom lip would drop if Okaihau seniors had gone down haha..
The old times I guess will never be the same, but if you have raw talent, put a structure in place that at least gives at a pathway hopefully to go on and wear a Taniwha jersey..
We have got to take note as a union ,its actually heart breaking to see what Southland is going through at the minute, a neglected club competition and player development has bitten them big time.
That's good to hear but chase them all up to make sure you are at full strength come kick off time on Thursday night. Not sure how the Bay will go as there are a few of us a bit reticent to take part but might have to shoulder tap them to oversome this tipping shyness to field the regulation six allowed.
I remember seeing Norm when I lived in Wellington - some place down town - and being really impressed. He seemed very modest and without the swagger of the successful sporting star he was. Great to see his story.
Pretty cool stuff. Love the pic of him and JC in particular.
@kev is interesting seeing some of the other teams, we look to have by far the smallest team, so will be tough going...found out today, the boy we got dispensation for, had never played rugby before either (always played soccer) no way would I have picked that, just a natural!
I was always a midget, which is why I played 9 until I grew....
@steven-harris I think that is exactly the approach. No problems with players who commit but loan players at last minute just annoy the crap out of everyone. Agree with comments about players below. Competition for spots improves performance. If we can retain players, then I think we are one lock and one prop short so along with a winger with wheels, they would be top of my list.
Thoroughgood over Faiane is about local pathways? What is Debra ahead of Thoroughgood? How much club rugby did he play?
If the player is committed medium term to the province I don't think it matters. He'll be fully in the club comp next year.. it's not a one season thing
I'd say they signed Debreczeni for his experience more than anything else and because he was playing SR couldn't play club rugby. Northland apparently tried to sign Fletcher Smith before JD so it was clear that they wanted at least one experienced 10 and supplement with guys from club rugby. Thoroughgood spent the whole club season up here and would've been regularly watched. He was the form 10 in club rugby so deserved his shot, certainly no better or worse than Faiane in the club games I watched. Maybe it hasn't turned out to be the right choice but the thinking behind it at the time was right.
Faiane is a talented young player earning his way - from what I heard and saw he certainly wasn't bashing the door down in club rugby. Might be good for him slowly making his way.
@taniwharugby I think you're right it would be best if Gregory has another year developing, I just won't be surprised if he gets a gig given how the contracting is going now.
@kev it will be interesting to watch how Tua develops, he's definitely got some talent and size is a natural advantage but hasn't looked like a SR player yet. He showed potential last year but hasn't really built on it this year. As you say, the defence is the big work on and if he can sort that out will be very handy for us.
@crucial Remember the game well,he used the TMO on at least 4 occasions in that game..was against Southland,looked like a guy making his debut and unsure of himself to make a decision..!.
Just don’t like his style,quite like the official who is relaxed and enjoying what he is there for but still letting the game flow.!
Pickerall looks to 2nd guess himself..!
I think with (my Cambridge blue eyes) Moulds, Olsen, and Ross Wright we almost have 3 best hookers in Blues territory. Nowadays Wright might struggle with throws given he doesn’t play there but still they all are very good. Yes I include Parsons in my consideration.
But couldnt even begin to suggest that about any other position.
@steven-harris haha are a few guys who still stood up, but TBF there were just huge lapses by almost everyone, we would spend good periods attacking, drop the ball, they score, pass it to them, they score, and if they didnt score, they'd almost score, then we might turn it over, then we'd turn it back over and they'd score.
One of the most disappointing and bizaare games I can recall (that includes the nightmare 2nd spell v HB the other week)
Expect we will be rolling out a 2nd string team next week (not willingly) for a match that means little bar getting a bit of confidence back before we face Waikato again.
@steven-harris agree with all that bar the call to take the penalty kick at goal...at that point in the game, I felt that was the smartest decision, and with the way the rest of that half played out, you could say it was the only smart decision made in the 2nd half.
Lack of smarts and having no feel whatsoever for the ref is a big problem.
Just because you are at the breakdown with all rights, if the ref calls hands off, you do actually need to listen.
This game was there for the taking, and the winner took a huge step towards a home semi final, alas it wasnt us.
The way the table is looking, we may still be sitting in the same place come the end of the weekend, so still have a realistic chance of making the top 4, but the way that 2nd spell and large parts of the first went, we will bow out in the 1st semi, again.
@kev I agree with that, as I said, just frustrating some of those 50/50s he throws, that probably are more like 60/40s and we lose possession, which he does over and over, if they come off they are brilliant.
Reckon he is more naturally gifted than his brother, but he lacks the accuracy of Dan.
THe way he plays I would expect him to thrive in an environment surrounded by higher skiled players, but he still makes similar errors, so still think he needs to rein it in a bit.
Voted for Matich, Kitto and Goodhue ( good half game ) and Robinson came close with his 20 minutes. But honestly could have named the whole forward pack for very dominant and physical display. Good work guys.
@taniwharugby agree with your comments. Jacobsen has been good for us. Matich is superb. Kara has always been an athlete and if the tight work is being done he comes into his own with his running game.
They were really niggley. That time on our line, Kara had been dragged off his feet into the ruck and was held in by Manawatu player. Another guy came on for clean out on Kara when ball was on other side of ruck. Then proceeded to carry on with it by pressing his forearm into Kara’s face after whistle. Douglas quite rightly pushes the guy off and scuffle ensued.
Also after Highland scored, their lock ( who was the main issue, on the roids? ) races in and starts pushing people in the face. Really random action because try was clean and nothing was happening.
The yellow card was nothing much but given penalties and slowing the ball down then maybe warranted.
When Hohaia scored, Matt Wright was taken out by fullback moving his line, and Ranger was held back closer to the line.
thought it was a bit shit sending Matthews on with time all but up on the clock!
Maybe he had been on the sideline for 5 minutes waiting for a break in play to get on, but from here it seemed stupid coming on for the lineout which they simply needed to catch and kick out to finish the game
@northlandallday yeah I think it was a couple of seasons ago the word out of the Blues was he provided a really good leadership role in the squad and for the newbies...yet still didnt get much game time...go figure!
My apologies for the biased slant of this report ,but I wrote it for the Northland Rugby Union website
Northland Under 19 (24)Auckland Under 19 Development (20)
It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog could easily have been one of the catch cries that was written on the changing sheds at the Northland Events Centre when Northland under 19s created there own piece of history by beating an Auckland Under 19 Development team for the very first time in a seeding round prior to the National Under 19 tournament
When playing Auckland age group teams staying in the fight is always a key point no matter the pedigree or the size of the opposition,and on that level Northland took the fight to their more illustrious and sizeable opponents who were expected to be too strong after going down to the top Auckland Under 19 side by one point the previous week.
Auckland started the game strongly scoring 3 unconverted tries in the opening 20 minutes and looked like they were capable of scoring more tries whenever they had ball.
However Northland worked out if they held on to possession for long periods they would create some scoring opportunities, the indiscipline of the Auckland team who kept giving away penalties within kicking distance to which promising player and goal kicker Nikau Graham from Kerikeri gladly accepted stepping up and nailing 5 penalties to keep Northland in the hunt at halftime going in at 15 all.
Auckland once again started the 2nd half strongly scoring their 4th try,but once again the try was unconverted.
Northland who were lead by skipper Sadius Cook Savage at no 8 and with halfback Wil Grant and first five Royce Sanderson playing to a solid game plan into wind they eventually got themselves in to field position forcing Auckland to infringe within kicking range
Graham stepped up again nailing another 3 penalties in the second half to set up a frantic and pulsating last five minutes
Northland held on to take the victory over Auckland 24-20 and the joy at end when the referee blew the final whistle from players and coaching staff was palpable
The Northland forward pack deserved a ton credit for standing up to a very big Auckland pack at breakdown and at scrumtime where they held their own ,something that head coach Mark Kapa and his assistants Tui Raeli and former Northland prop Bronson Murray will be extremely proud of.
It’s always hard to single out one particular player , but Nikau Graham returning from injury in his first start in a seeding game for 2018 landing 8 penalties out of 9 attempts in breezy conditions would be a real contender for player of the day.
A very good win for the Northland Under 19s which will give them plenty of confidence going into the Jock Hobbs Memorial National Under 19 Tournament in Taupo next Sunday 9th September 2018.
Loved the mongrel we showed. Yeah, we were making lots of mistakes, but we keeped defending with vigour and the two tries they scored we’re off errors and against the run of play.
As I said before, if we were much tidier we’d have put 30 past them.
That second forty we mucked in and kept them scoreless and they had the wind.
I agree with Chiefy, the bench added value. Our reserve props stood up well this time.
On to Otago in Dunedin now. This will be tough. Otago are very similar to us, but have two strike wingers who are on form. I think we’ll more than match them up front, just need to squeeze them out wide. We’ll go down there with confidence though. I think we’re a good shot if we minimise our errors.
@j77 I think we all agree that Tua needs a shakeup. He should get some support re tackling, and a clear indication that he will get dragged and not play if the effort is not there. Gregory is really young so coaches would best know if he is ready. I like Ranger on the wing. So for me Hyland would be next cab off the rank in midfield.
Pleased to see that Mid Western stalwart and Chilean international, prop Sergio Felipe has made the Thames Valley Heartland team after moving down there to manage a dairy farm and playing for the local club team.
Great reward for a good man. When he takes the field he’ll make his NZ first class debut at the ripe old age of 32.
@gunner when we were coaching the prems we always thought that playing the Prem game first would help to solve a few issues. it would allow for a full bench and the hearty prem players could then back up to make the numbers in the reserves.
we even went a step further and thought that if the reserve game was 2nd then if a prem club was fortunate to have NPC players then they would play one in the reserves each week to boost morale and give the younger players some experience. the other thing it would do is allow the scrums to be safer in the reserves as the prem props could back up and secure the scrums.
the other option that no one has talked about is because of the lack of numbers in reserve grade that could be turned into a 10's comp, 5 4wds and 5 backs, unlimited subs.
I do hope Faiane is somewhere in the mix,the occasion I did see him him play for OBM against Kamo I was really impressed with his passing game both left and right.
Not totally sold on thoroughgood,I guess he’s benefited from being behind a very good Kamo pack and having Mac Sykes playing at 9,talking to many people,Skyes has been the standout club player.
Really hoping they are looking at the Englishman who plays tighthead for Kamo,Alex Gale,23 years old played for England at school boy level,the man is a rock at scrumtime..and for a big man,135kgs is very mobile...he played for Kamo last year,but weighed over 150kgs,has shed around 15kgs and from what I have been told will be coming out to play for Kamo again next year.
I went and watched the Semi final today, was a very tight game due to the conditions. The backs barely got a look in. Don't think I would be keen on either Faiane or Thoroughgood at 10 for Northland on todays performance. Maybe they would be better on a better surface?
@Steven-Harris the English prop might be solid at scrum time but he wouldn't physically cope at NPC level.
I read in the Advocate this morning that the squad is named this week (19th) and they have about 10 spots to fill which will come from club rugby unless a Super Rugby player becomes available. Have to think most of the leftover spots will come from that development squad they just named. Prop, lock, loosie, 10 and outside backs probably where we need a bit more depth.