A realistic view of England's performance

Four talking points after England's narrowest-ever win over Italy Four talking points after England's narrowest-ever win over Italy

Steve Borthwick sure has his particular way with words. Save for the well-taken Elliot Daly try that saw the ball flash through numerous hands from one side of the Stadio Olimpico to the other, England were dull as dishwater trying to get across the gain line on Saturday.

Any injuries, more importantly

@MajorRage said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

And they say kiwis are one eyed about their rugby ….

What sort of a bubble do you live in to think this what EVERYBODY wanted???

'The World Cup final everyone wanted, but never got' 'The World Cup final everyone wanted, but never got'

In his first column for BBC Sport NI, Ireland hooker Rob Herring discusses missing the Six Nations opener with France, Antoine Dupont and doing the school run.

To be fair the worst supporters of any country are guilty of this kind of wank speak.

It is a bit surprising it is a player saying it though.

Could just mean they were the less disciplined side etc - doesn't have to mean they were unfairly treated.

@antipodean said in Barbarians v Wales:

@sparky said in Barbarians v Wales:

Aumua back on after doing this.

Pfft. Only person who should be penalised is the bloke running at the defensive line without the ball.

I saw that and was confused as to why Ireland were wearing Red jerseys.

Indeed. Instead they are moral high ground claiming, hard done by kants!

Finished 70-7. A blood bath.

@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

@canefan said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

@nostrildamus said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

@pakman said in RWC QF: France v South Africa:

Mark Donlon  /  Oct 22, 2023  /  Rugby World Rugby identify FIVE refereeing mistakes from controversial France-South Africa clash World Rugby identify FIVE refereeing mistakes from controversial France-South Africa clash

World Rugby have admitted to five mistakes in the Rugby World Cup quarter-final match between France and South Africa following referee Ben O'Keeffe's

3-2 errors, a card each, nearly balances out?

Do they want go back and run the rule over Wayne Barnes' performance in the 2007 France/ABs match?

I doubt it but would be a popular move by some Kiwis 🙂
Was this WR refereeing report a leak or a public release?

Alleged leak, no proof. Might well be fake

worldrugby.org Independent Disciplinary Committee decision: Chryss Viliko (New Zealand) | World Rugby Independent Disciplinary Committee decision: Chryss Viliko (New Zealand) | World Rugby

New Zealand’s Chryss Viliko attended an independent Disciplinary Committee hearing for an offence contrary to Law 9.20(a) (dangerous charging in a ruck or maul) in New Zealand’s WXV 1 match against France on 20 October. The player was suspended for two matches subject to the successful completion...

@Bovidae Ah, I feel sorry for the bloke. That's a lot of bad luck on a day that he should have been celebrating. I hope he gets the jersey back, but not much chance, I think.

@Joans-Town-Jones @nzzp

Oh come on, you've both been watching this RWC where I'm yet to see a penalty in a situation where the ball carrier has deliberately led with his head, to the point where we've even heard the ref state exactly that on the fly.

Stop getting your knickers in a twist about make believe.

@Dodge said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@booboo said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@Luigi said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@Bones said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@Dodge said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

@Bones said in RWC QF: England v Fiji:

Holy fucking shit.

Comms pull the old "south sea islanders".

Now they get it

I didn’t know that was an insult.

Really? I still remember my ex's families embarrassment when her geriatric grandfather called me a colonial. I had a laugh but many probably wouldn't. Same thing. Jingoistic slang from the early to mid 1900's.

I used to play rugby against an Aussie team called London Colonials.

@dodge and @Luigi ...

... England still in the World Cup?

in name only IMO

Previous RWC winners, so strong they don't even need Eddie Jones to coach them.

@Chris-B said in Wellington v Hawkes (RS):

It wasn't heroin, it was angel dust - PCP and I never touched it.

Great flick.

For some reason (or two ) I distinctly recall Jamie Lee Curtis in this in amongst some outstanding 80s comedy.

I’d have to get Stargazer to confirm but if they’re testing for Heroin and didn’t find any there’s a good chance it could have been PCP or Angel Dust on the Shield.

For shame Bay, FOR SHAME.

@Toddy said in RWC QF: Wales v Argentina:

@Machpants Are you sure

https://passport.world.rugby/media/j5senlan/2303-update-head_contact_process_en.pdf

Looking at the process, and rewatching the incident, it seems pretty clear to me that Dickson shat the bed.

Law 20: Dangerous play in a ruck or maul.
A ) A player must not charge into a ruck or maul. Charging includes any contact made without binding onto another player in the ruck or maul.
B ) A player must not make contact with an opponent above the line of the shoulders.

So that's a clear "Yes" to the first 2 questions.

What was the degree of danger?
Well, it meets the direct contact, high speed, and dynamic criteria (and arguably some others). So that's RC territory.

Is there any mitigation?
Yup, Tompkins was falling. So that means it's downgraded to YC.

It's a fairly well defined process (whether you agree with it or not), so how the heck they came up with no penalty is a mystery for the ages.

@foobaNZ said in SF - Wellington vs Shield Snorters:

Flanders very very good.

Looked AB potential. Luckily for him Savea's away so we can all see if he's good enough at 8 to go all the way

Lakai and Kirifi can share the 7 position.

@booboo said in SF - Taranaki v Canterbury:

@Canes4life said in SF - Taranaki v Canterbury:

This Jacomb guys looks like a talent.

Ffs Ricky

Haven't watched much NPC, but what is Jacomb's story.

Has he been playing like this all year, or was last night a one off?

He usurped Potroz?

Yep he's been good all year really, and kept improving, really looks the goods to me, and can see a super team looking at him. He's only 22 I think and was MOTM from what I saw at game. @Canes4life yep has well and truly surpassed Protoz, and Perofeta at 19 in my mind. We in fairly good position at 10 in the Naki, none of them poor players .

@Stargazer said in QF - Canterbury v Auckland:

Arguably the worst high tackle to go unpunished was just last week, when Auckland wing AJ Lam knocked the snot out of Canterbury replacement Blair Murray in Christchurch.

Bourke was amongst those puzzled referee Nick Briant didn’t show Lam a card, despite Murray going on to score a try.

It turns out Lam, who scored a try shortly after knocking Murray’s block off, has since been cited after it was deemed the hit met the red card threshold, and Briant later called Bourke.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provincial/300987505/npc-talking-points-why-tmos-in-provincial-rugby-have-less-power

A Ranfurly Shield rematch

Yes, the Log o’ Wood isn’t on the line, but Saturday night’s semifinal between Wellington and Shield Snorters is a beaut match-up nonetheless.

Logs

@NTA said in RWC Week 5: Japan v Argentina:

@antipodean said in RWC Week 5: Japan v Argentina:

Surely on the evidence so far BOK gets the final

Fixed

Cruel