All Blacks vs Boks
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Chris-B. Yoda seems to rate Perry
I do too - he's gone well at NPC level and I thought he'd go well at Super level, but I was highly startled to see him getting popped for the 'saders.
Don't know what the explanation for that is, but I'm sure the people who make the decisions saw it.
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@Tregaskis said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Chris-B. said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Unco The term might be slightly loose.
But, Owen Franks, Ben Franks, Wyatt Crockett, Kane Hames, Tim Perry - they've all spent time on our "conveyor belt" somewhere!Tim Perry got a rare game for the Crusaders this year against one of the Oz teams and he got completely smashed in the scrum - lifted off his feet.
Romero / Romano is kind of prop-shaped. Isn't he a Nelsonian too?
He is. So's Ryan Crotty for that matter.
The amazing this is that you can basically draw a 25 year stretch from Trevor Morris and Terry Mitchell, where you'd struggle to find even a tenuous link between Nelson and the ABs.
Mako$ have been a good thing for NZ rugby!
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@booboo said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Fark that Bok team is young.
Take out Bruno and Beast and nobody (on first glance) gas 20 caps
Sorry Kolisi 22, Serfontein 32 Kriel 22
Plus another six on the bench but don't worry, stats shouldn't get in the way of an argument on the interweb.
Bench smench
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Marc hinton just made himself look more of a dick with that reply article
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@kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks vs Boks:
Marc hinton just made himself look more of a dick with that reply article
Just read it.
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"Hames' renown will certainly be growing now. Hopefully his understanding of the word too.
Of course, the proof will be in the pudding on Saturday night, but what is to be admired about the 29-year-old Chiefs prop is his self-confidence and aggression. He will likely need it against those gnarly Boks. "No Marc. The proof will not be in the pudding. It never is.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. The individual ingredients might look good. Mix them into a team and it might look even better. It's only when you taste it or watch how they play do you really know if it's good or not.
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I always thought scrummaging was Hames' strength!
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Boks:
I always thought scrummaging was Hames' strength!
You and everyone else mate!
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks vs Boks:
I always thought scrummaging was Hames' strength!
Just because it's his strength doesn't mean that he is renowned for it.
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@Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:
What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.
I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging
What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged. -
hames i've seen a bit up and down scrum-wise, but there are lots of variables... given how laulala has been going, and coles back, and first choice locks - this is a bloody good unit to have him in and see how he goes - and with crockett on the bench there's no real risk, just a matter of how long you leave hames out there.
didn't see the pumas-SA game, but the saffas were dominant in the scrum i hear? be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
it's pretty much cult-hero stuff being a newly-selected front-rower who is too quick with his mouth for a journo too, funny shit. -
@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:
What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.
I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging
What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged.Sounds about right.
Scrum dogs like NTA will know better, but to me Hames at 5' 11" with short legs (but able to squat 250kg) is always going to be underneath top level THs, who are usually 6' 1" or more. Their standard response is subtly to push downwards. So inherently unstable. Often leads to collapse or TH being popped. Not clear to me that either side is innocent, but often LH pinged for not holding scrum up or something similar.
Expect similar tactics from Dreyer. In Super final shut the gate on Moody several times when he was starting to angle in.
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@Crucial said in All Blacks vs Boks:
@Milk said in All Blacks vs Boks:
What I don't get about Hames is that he can get pinged off the park 3 scrums in a row, then on the 4th he absolutely wrecks the opposition scrum.
I have watched him before to try and work this out with my backs expertise of scrummaging
What it looks like to me is that he has this technique where, after engaging, he dips then drives up very quickly. If the opposition TH is onto it they catch him on the dip and nudge him down before he gets the drive going. To the ref it looks like he has hinged.Greenandgold would agree: http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/analysis-wallabies-scrum-issues-against-lions/
