Catalonia
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FC Barcelona releases an official statement.
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Tonight's protests...
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This isn't going to end well. As much as I sympathise with the right to self determination etc. this vote was unconstitutional and illegal. Imagine if the Scottish parliament had unilaterally announced an independence vote.
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90% vote in favour... that includes at least 700,000 confiscated ballots... and I suspect the goon show today indicates Catalans feel they did the right thing.
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Post-referendum protests.
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Independent journalist Tim Pool is on the ground over there and has been doing some good interviews capturing what is going on. He's about as close to unbiased as I've ever seen from a journalist having followed his reports from the various events in the US and around the world.
The reason I'm mentioning him is youtube have naturally cut off advertising from his videos meaning he's been making about $9.00 per video from Catalonia and you can imagine that's not exactly offsetting costs. As such I've recently started throwing a couple dollars a month his way via Patreon as I'm finding his insights 1000% more trustworthy than any major news network.
If the police violence we saw in the referendum is anything to go by, there is bound to be some big developments in the upcoming days. If you want to check him out or support his work his details are below.
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@salacious-crumb This is what happens when you give people an inch. The longing for identity once awoken with the promise of fulfilment becomes like water from Tao Te Ching - it will inexorably have its way.
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BARCELONA/MADRID, Oct 4 (Reuters) - Catalonia will move on Monday to declare independence from Spain after holding a banned referendum, pushing the European Union nation towards a rupture that threatens the foundations of its young democracy.
Catalan President Carles Puigdemont said he favoured mediation to find a way out of the crisis but that Spain's central government had rejected this. Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy's government responded by calling on Catalonia to "return to the path of law" first before any negotiations.
Surely Puigdemont has no mandate whatsoever to "declare independence"? Clearly he is pro-independence but most polling shows the populace split close to 50/50 with maybe a slight advantage to the remainer/respainers?
The "referendum" was a sham. Poorly handled by central government doesn't help.
FT (Financial Times) reporting some of the big banks are moving out of Catalonia already.
The second-largest bank based in Catalonia has decided to move its legal headquarters out of the region as Catalan separatists and the Spanish authorities hurtle towards a showdown on Monday over the region’s push for independence.
The decision on Thursday by Banco de Sabadell to move its headquarters to the eastern Spanish town of Alicante came at the same time that CaixaBank, the biggest bank in the region and the country’s third largest, also considered redomiciling outside Catalonia.
Seems like a hot mess.
Infidel is in Barcelona tonight and tomorrow, all very quiet from what I have seen.
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BARCELONA/MADRID, Oct 4 (Reuters) - Catalonia will move on Monday to declare independence from Spain after holding a banned referendum, pushing the European Union nation towards a rupture that threatens the foundations of its young democracy.
Catalan President Carles Puigdemont said he favoured mediation to find a way out of the crisis but that Spain's central government had rejected this. Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy's government responded by calling on Catalonia to "return to the path of law" first before any negotiations.
Surely Puigdemont has no mandate whatsoever to "declare independence"? Clearly he is pro-independence but most polling shows the populace split close to 50/50 with maybe a slight advantage to the remainer/respainers?
The "referendum" was a sham. Poorly handled by central government doesn't help.
FT (Financial Times) reporting some of the big banks are moving out of Catalonia already.
The second-largest bank based in Catalonia has decided to move its legal headquarters out of the region as Catalan separatists and the Spanish authorities hurtle towards a showdown on Monday over the region’s push for independence.
The decision on Thursday by Banco de Sabadell to move its headquarters to the eastern Spanish town of Alicante came at the same time that CaixaBank, the biggest bank in the region and the country’s third largest, also considered redomiciling outside Catalonia.
Seems like a hot mess.
Infidel is in Barcelona tonight and tomorrow, all very quiet from what I have seen.
Baron Silas Greenback wonders why Infidel referred to himself in the 3rd person.
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BARCELONA/MADRID, Oct 4 (Reuters) - Catalonia will move on Monday to declare independence from Spain after holding a banned referendum, pushing the European Union nation towards a rupture that threatens the foundations of its young democracy.
Catalan President Carles Puigdemont said he favoured mediation to find a way out of the crisis but that Spain's central government had rejected this. Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy's government responded by calling on Catalonia to "return to the path of law" first before any negotiations.
Surely Puigdemont has no mandate whatsoever to "declare independence"? Clearly he is pro-independence but most polling shows the populace split close to 50/50 with maybe a slight advantage to the remainer/respainers?
The "referendum" was a sham. Poorly handled by central government doesn't help.
FT (Financial Times) reporting some of the big banks are moving out of Catalonia already.
The second-largest bank based in Catalonia has decided to move its legal headquarters out of the region as Catalan separatists and the Spanish authorities hurtle towards a showdown on Monday over the region’s push for independence.
The decision on Thursday by Banco de Sabadell to move its headquarters to the eastern Spanish town of Alicante came at the same time that CaixaBank, the biggest bank in the region and the country’s third largest, also considered redomiciling outside Catalonia.
Seems like a hot mess.
Infidel is in Barcelona tonight and tomorrow, all very quiet from what I have seen.
Rancid Schnitzel agrees. No problem with self determination but there are laws and processes that have to be followed. You can't just ram through a vote like this. There are wide-ranging implications for all Spaniards, not just the Catalans. Could be wrong, but it seems to me that they're concerned that if they went through the proper process they wouldn't get a majority. That is understandable when looking at Scotland and Quebec, but still illegal.
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European countries with economy smaller than Catalonia
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So, on the same day Catalonia declares independence and the Spanish parliament approves direct rule over the province.
This is looking more and more dangerous.
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Barcelona city hall right now removing Spanish and EU flags. Shit is about to get really-real.