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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    Is it the end of the haka? New Zealand rugby debating future of their war dance after shock claims from ALL BLACKS

    Delme Parfitt  /  Aug 13, 2018  /  Rugby News

    Is it the end of the haka? New Zealand rugby debating future of their war dance after shock claims from ALL BLACKS | Wales Online

    Is it the end of the haka? New Zealand rugby debating future of their war dance after shock claims from ALL BLACKS | Wales Online

    For the first time those who have actually worn the silver fern are suggesting the haka is being over-used

    Article about the haka being overused.

    Hope nothing changes.

    Rugby's loss if it gets diluted.

    And to all those who think the Haka gives an unfair advantage, you weren't good enough.

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    @mikethesnow to be honest, thats a poorly researched article.

    NZ rugby fraternity has long been split over the overuse of the haka. This isn't new.

    The dumbest thing about hakas (lets not act like NZ are the only ones that do them) is that the IRB have offical protocol about what you can do when one is being done. That's the dumbest thing ever.

    EDIT - Same as Tim, I don't watch it anymore.

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  • TimT Away
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    I hardly ever watch the haka. Done to death.

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    The Chiefs didn't do "it".

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  • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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    Always watch the haka because after it’s completion it’s my cue to mute the TV.

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    It's never been the same since Ali Williams retired..

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    @crucial or Byron Kelleher

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    Bring back the old days when you had no fucken idea what they were doing

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    I like it...nothing better than a good stirring haka, but that is the issue, they aren't all done well and you wonder why in any of cases...heard someone on the radio menti9n the NZ handball team did one and was cringeworthy.

    I never did a drunk shirtless one when I was in the UK, despite the encouragement from my work colleagues.

    In a Northland wide under 13 rugby tournament in the school holidays, all the teams had one, most did them at some point.

    But the best one by far was when one of the teams did one after thier opening game for one of the boys in their team whose dad had died 3 days earlier (he played and had a blinder)...the emotion these boys did it with was something to behold, a number walked off after in tears themselves...I'm getting teary thinking about it as the boy and his brother it was done for are from my team and have coached them for 5 years.

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  • kiwiinmelbK Offline
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    Yeah I like it but get a bit sick of the amount of attention it receives when the football itself should be the talking point ,

    The age of click bait brings up all sorts of shit articles I guess

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    @taniwharugby yeah same here. I still really enjoy it. More so Kapo O Pango than Ka Mate but still like a Ka Mate.

    What I love about it now is that it is so intense

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  • MN5M Online
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    @kiwiinmelb said in Haka-Gate:

    Bring back the old days when you had no fucken idea what they were doing

    This one is outstanding. 15 guys somehow managing to do about 11 different Hakas.

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    It's like jazz or interpretive dance, with a haka

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    I still like it but I do think it has become over-choreographed and a "performance". Chief here is the long wind in before the actual haka commences.

    School hakas are the best.

    Most moving I've seen were at a funeral for a guy at work who topped himself and by a family seeing their son off overseas at Chch airport. Both were totally spontaneous consisted of only a few participants and could not be beat for raw emotion.

    I have performed two overseas - one at my wedding in UK which was a bit shambolic and a solo one at a conference in Bangkok which I really did throw myself into heart and soul and which got a standing ovation. Fuck my chest hurt the next way.

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    @dogmeat they were discussing it on RS the other night and they mentioned the Black Power did one for Muldoon at his funeral...which would seem odd for me?

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    @dogmeat said in Haka-Gate:

    I still like it but I do think it has become over-choreographed and a "performance". Chief here is the long wind in before the actual haka commences.

    School hakas are the best.

    Most moving I've seen were at a funeral for a guy at work who topped himself and by a family seeing their son off overseas at Chch airport. Both were totally spontaneous consisted of only a few participants and could not be beat for raw emotion.

    I have performed two overseas - one at my wedding in UK which was a bit shambolic and a solo one at a conference in Bangkok which I really did throw myself into heart and soul and which got a standing ovation. Fuck my chest hurt the next way.

    At least you didn't do a humiliator on British Morning Television like @WillieTheWaiter not too dissimilar to the video above.

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    @taniwharugby Muldoon and Black Power became quite chummy. He may have been many things but Piggy was no coward and enjoyed confrontation which the gang leaders seemed to respect. He also seemed to respect them as tough buggers which given how craven his cabinet was probably endeared them to him. He set up work programmes and accommodation to assist BP

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  • MN5M Online
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    @taniwharugby said in Haka-Gate:

    I like it...nothing better than a good stirring haka, but that is the issue, they aren't all done well and you wonder why in any of cases...heard someone on the radio menti9n the NZ handball team did one and was cringeworthy.

    I never did a drunk shirtless one when I was in the UK, despite the encouragement from my work colleagues.

    In a Northland wide under 13 rugby tournament in the school holidays, all the teams had one, most did them at some point.

    But the best one by far was when one of the teams did one after thier opening game for one of the boys in their team whose dad had died 3 days earlier (he played and had a blinder)...the emotion these boys did it with was something to behold, a number walked off after in tears themselves...I'm getting teary thinking about it as the boy and his brother it was done for are from my team and have coached them for 5 years.

    I did. Some hot chick said I had a big gut. This was at my absolute peak 'drink heaps, eat shit and do no exercise' period of my life and I was clocking in at about 110kg. It was great inspiration to take more care of myself on my return to NZ.

    I also had a horrific goatee.

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  • NepiaN Online
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    I missed the haka in 1994 after getting lost trying to find Eden Park - we lost to the 'try from the end of the earth' , then in 1999 at Twickenham v France I only made it in time to see the last part of the haka. I try really hard not to miss the haka now.

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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    over-produced, over choreographed, led by a fucking halfback. I said it during the French series, but i am proper over it. I also hate how we have two, and we wheel out one for "big" games (as decided by us).

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