March for Men Australia
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@kirwan said in March for Men Australia:
@rembrandt said in March for Men Australia:
Firstly I must say Australian mainstream media is an absolute cancer. I see these reporters at these events and they have zero interest in reporting what is going on, everything has to be some sort of narrative. I guess they just don't have souls, any journo's on here care to talk me through how they sleep at night?
Despite the misreporting however the event was a massive success.
We had in excess of 500 people attend with thankfully minimal representation of the ''alt-right' crowd,these groups were advised they would not be welcome..glad they didn't show because a skinny 5'8" bloke in a high vis like myself might have struggled to kick out 6'4" steroid abusers.
The ferals had their counter protest of maybe 100-150, bravely protesting against nazism, facism, the kkk, homophobia, rape, transphobia, mysogyny, immigration control, pollution..eating meat, drinking milk (excluding soy). Just kinda sad for them that we weren't actually rallying for any of those ideals.
Some protesters managed to sneak in and bravely pulled out a megaphone with a siren on it in order to drown out one of our speakers talking about her experience living in an domestic violence shelter with her 3 children. They were evicted with a bit of a scuffle.
There was also another siren in a chilly bin that went off, again bravely drowning out a young man speaking about his experience of being sexually abused and his multiple suicide attempts.
Any neutral walking past would have immediately seen who the good guys were and who the deranged lunatics were but thankfully aussie mainstream media can do the thinking for the folk at home by labelling it an 'Anti-feminist march' (SBS) or the MC as 'Extreme right campaigner' (Channel 9)
Anyway a bit of a rant but it was really successful, huge turnout had some amazing conversations with the public. So many don't know that 40 Australian men commit suicide every week and when I explained these stats to most folk they fully understood what we were about and couldn't believe the protesters. Had some chats with Mens rights campaigners nearly in tears finally seeing public support for something they have been fighting and being demonised for for nearly 20 years.
The best news however of the whole day was a call from 'Dads In Distress' the charity we were raising money for. They had been inundated with calls from men who had been watching the march live on youtube and for the first time felt some hope in their lives about the situations they were in. Many were suicidal and reaching out for the first time because of what we were doing.
Good on you mate, very impressive getting off your arse and doing something about these issues.
Hear hear!
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@rembrandt said in March for Men Australia:
Firstly I must say Australian mainstream media is an absolute cancer. I see these reporters at these events and they have zero interest in reporting what is going on, everything has to be some sort of narrative. I guess they just don't have souls, any journo's on here care to talk me through how they sleep at night?
Despite the misreporting however the event was a massive success.
We had in excess of 500 people attend with thankfully minimal representation of the ''alt-right' crowd,these groups were advised they would not be welcome..glad they didn't show because a skinny 5'8" bloke in a high vis like myself might have struggled to kick out 6'4" steroid abusers.
The ferals had their counter protest of maybe 100-150, bravely protesting against nazism, facism, the kkk, homophobia, rape, transphobia, mysogyny, immigration control, pollution..eating meat, drinking milk (excluding soy). Just kinda sad for them that we weren't actually rallying for any of those ideals.
Some protesters managed to sneak in and bravely pulled out a megaphone with a siren on it in order to drown out one of our speakers talking about her experience living in an domestic violence shelter with her 3 children. They were evicted with a bit of a scuffle.
There was also another siren in a chilly bin that went off, again bravely drowning out a young man speaking about his experience of being sexually abused and his multiple suicide attempts.
Any neutral walking past would have immediately seen who the good guys were and who the deranged lunatics were but thankfully aussie mainstream media can do the thinking for the folk at home by labelling it an 'Anti-feminist march' (SBS) or the MC as 'Extreme right campaigner' (Channel 9)
Anyway a bit of a rant but it was really successful, huge turnout had some amazing conversations with the public. So many don't know that 40 Australian men commit suicide every week and when I explained these stats to most folk they fully understood what we were about and couldn't believe the protesters. Had some chats with Mens rights campaigners nearly in tears finally seeing public support for something they have been fighting and being demonised for for nearly 20 years.
The best news however of the whole day was a call from 'Dads In Distress' the charity we were raising money for. They had been inundated with calls from men who had been watching the march live on youtube and for the first time felt some hope in their lives about the situations they were in. Many were suicidal and reaching out for the first time because of what we were doing.
Fantastic work mate! The way the media twist and distort this is absolutely shameful. How hard is it to just do a bit of research or actually talk to the people on the ground. BA has really opened up my eyes to this. So many men are hurting and don't feel they are being heard. Why does this immediately have to be made out to be an anti-woman or far right thing?
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Because the extreme left want paint men, especially white me, as the enemy and the reason for everything “bad”.
Just looking at those suicide stats, it makes me wonder how bad they are going to be in ten years when the lefts idealogy of today affects the next generation.
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You guys don't understand... the media is not biased.
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The hit pieces keep coming...
Here is the Guardian
They have no qualms about completely fabricating things.
Even just the blurb under the picture:
The more than 100 protesters at the March for Men march in Melbourne were all but overwhelmed by counterprotesters and police presence. Photograph: Avi Yemini
To start there were at least 500. The 150 max counterprotesters did everything they could but did no overwhelm us and the photograph is of my mate Andrew..not Avi.
The article does not improve from there.
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@rembrandt That's a bit of a hatchet job, although it's the Guardian, so not unexpected. At least they got a guy to do it, so they're not unaware of irony.
That said, this bit does highlight the difficulty in getting sufficient numbers to congregate and give voice to specific matters of concern:
Yet, despite that shared hostility to feminism, it’s hard to see the conflicting sentiments expressed at the rally cohering into any kind of stability.
The Proud Boys – with their “The West is Best” banners and fight club enthusiasm for violence – possess little in common with, say, musician Jarryd Chircop, who shakily told the crowd about his experience of abuse.
The March for Men showed that some men, at least, have got considerable amounts of amorphous anger – but whether that’s a foundation from which a new right might emerge remains to be seen.
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@antipodean I've been looking into this 'journalist' he's a known Socialist and supporter of Antifa. He also looks like he was dropped on his head as a baby so that might excuse the inability to count.
So basically completely reflective of the staff and readers of The Guardian.
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@rembrandt said in March for Men Australia:
So basically completely reflective of the staff and readers of The Guardian.
Write for your audience.
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@rembrandt said in March for Men Australia:
The hit pieces keep coming...
Here is the Guardian
They have no qualms about completely fabricating things.
Even just the blurb under the picture:
The more than 100 protesters at the March for Men march in Melbourne were all but overwhelmed by counterprotesters and police presence. Photograph: Avi Yemini
the photograph is of my mate Andrew..not Avi.
Very minor thing, but "Photograph: Avi Yemini" is a photo credit, outlining who the photo belongs to ie. who took it.
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@gt12 said in March for Men Australia:
Silly. I doubt that the Victoria police want the organizers to do their own security; may end up with gangs or ALT right groups moving in to such services. Just make a few arrests of the silly protestors, you stupid muppets.
Interesting rabbit hole you have opened there.
So if they organise their own group of thugs to be security, and the security threaten to beat the shit out of protesters... do the protesters get sent the bill for being protected from security? -
@gt12 said in March for Men Australia:
Silly. I doubt that the Victoria police want the organizers to do their own security; may end up with gangs or ALT right groups moving in to such services. Just make a few arrests of the silly protestors, you stupid muppets.
Sadly Axiomatic did employ an alt-right group to do some of the security in Melbourne... They can't really claim ignorance either, I have it on good authority that someone with clout informed the head but they chose either to disbelieve the warning or went ahead knowinngly anyway. Not a great look from a 'christian' organisation.
The Vic police thing is so dumb. Lefties are organising an Anti Donald Trump Protest next month, basically this means that all the alt-right have to do is get a large violent group together and attack the lefties in order to get the lefties charged for having a demonstration. What a precedent to set...
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@Rembrandt Awesome! Well done mate.
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So found out all the details regarding this lady friend and her moving with her daughter. I'm a bit torn to be honest.
So the story is that they lived in Brisbane together for a number of years, but he wanted to move back to his home town in northern NSW (about 4 hours from Brisbane). She moved with him and they had a daughter. They broke up when daughter was 3. She toughed it out for 2 years but was miserable in this small town. She was also the primary caregiver and had the child most of the time. She wanted to move. He didn't and threatened to take it to the courts. She offerred him large amount of money for him to visit regularly and to avoid courts. He refused.
Now the problem I have is that this was apparently pretty much a slam dunk case. As mother and primary caregiver, courts will pretty much always take their side. The lawyer for the ex obviously convinced him otherwise (obviously he'd have to motivation for doing so) and it went on for close to two years.
I can sympathise with both sides here. Very difficult situation.
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@rancid-schnitzel That's fucked. Shit situation for everyone alright. That's the kind of thing that will break a man, the cost of 2 years in court only to lose because he has been supporting his family and in society's eyes has the 'wrong' genitalia to be a parent. Of course a reverse result wouldn't be any better either. I wonder if because the daughter wasn't yet school age might have removed any potential weighting for not disrupting their lives.
Just watched this brief Ted Talk by Cassie Jaye on her look into the Mens Rights Movement.
She describes well the difference between hearing people speak and listening to them. I go on about journalists being some of the worst sort of people on the planet but this describes them well, just so blinded by bias they lose a sense of logic and appear to be totally unaware of it.8