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@canefan said in NZ Politics:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12126195
I hope Winston's spoiler tactics don't result in more votes from the centre-right. After all, it's his fault we're in this mess
This is a nice summary. Ardern is screwed
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
The comments are glorious, the press have finally started to turn on labour and even the usual barrage of labour fanboys in the comments section are getting dozens and dozens of downvotes and stuff is actually letting people point out how wrong the fanboys are.
Winston is playing this very well, Shane Jones is gaining more profile and I can see a scenario where Winstons hands the reins over to him . Jones has a track history of working with national so it could be goodbye to Ardern in two years.Peters is only a year older than Trump and no-one is expecting Trump not to run again. It will surprise the hell out of me if Winston is planning on handing any reins to anyone any time soon.
For all the succession plans he might want to build, NZ First is the Peters Party. I reckon the day he quits they'll shed a third of their supporters.
Jones seems like a rude, obnoxious fucker - not sure he's got the electoral appeal of Peters - who is himself a rude obnoxious fucker, but somehow he manages to sell it!
Peters is quite possibly doing a good job though - I haven't looked at the bills and things he's pulled the rug on, but they don't sound like things that are critical to the economy or governance of the country.
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@chris-b said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
The comments are glorious, the press have finally started to turn on labour and even the usual barrage of labour fanboys in the comments section are getting dozens and dozens of downvotes and stuff is actually letting people point out how wrong the fanboys are.
Winston is playing this very well, Shane Jones is gaining more profile and I can see a scenario where Winstons hands the reins over to him . Jones has a track history of working with national so it could be goodbye to Ardern in two years.Peters is only a year older than Trump and no-one is expecting Trump not to run again. It will surprise the hell out of me if Winston is planning on handing any reins to anyone any time soon.
For all the succession plans he might want to build, NZ First is the Peters Party. I reckon the day he quits they'll shed a third of their supporters.
Jones seems like a rude, obnoxious fucker - not sure he's got the electoral appeal of Peters - who is himself a rude obnoxious fucker, but somehow he manages to sell it!
Peters is quite possibly doing a good job though - I haven't looked at the bills and things he's pulled the rug on, but they don't sound like things that are critical to the economy or governance of the country.
If anything he’s mostly saved them from themselves by opposing dropping three strikes and upping the refugee quota. He still let them destroy and industry and fuck over a region to get the sex scandal off the front pages so there’s that.
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This is is excoriating and 100% true , it’ll be interesting to what if any response there is from the usual quarters . I’ve long wondered how labour can hold their collective noses and go into coalition with Winston given his appalling behaviour and comments in the past. The facts the Greens can do it with all their wokeness is inexplicable.
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
This is is excoriating and 100% true , it’ll be interesting to what if any response there is from the usual quarters . I’ve long wondered how labour can hold their collective noses and go into coalition with Winston given his appalling behaviour and comments in the past. The facts the Greens can do it with all their wokeness is inexplicable.
Goes to show, despite their self proclaimed principles, the Greens were gagging for some degree of power so much they were willing to swallow the biggest rat of them all to do it
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As usual it’s not the lie that really screws you over , it’s the cover up.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12127703
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@jegga that is shocking, really highlights the sorry state of Universities today. She absolutely must fall on her sword if they want to retain any semblance of integrity.
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@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
@jegga that is shocking, really highlights the sorry state of Universities today. She absolutely must fall on her sword if they want to retain any semblance of integrity.
Yeah, nah. I don’t think she has that much integrity. She’ll likely tough it out, backed by the useful idiots at the Standard etc who will say, in essence, that the end justifies the means because Brash is racist etc, nothing to see here, right wing hit job yada yada.
Isn’t it interesting that the Ferald has no problem recycling Farrar’s work but don’t miss an opportunity to label him a “right-wing blogger”. Hypocrites.
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@jc said in NZ Politics:
@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
@jegga that is shocking, really highlights the sorry state of Universities today. She absolutely must fall on her sword if they want to retain any semblance of integrity.
Yeah, nah. I don’t think she has that much integrity. She’ll likely tough it out, backed by the useful idiots at the Standard etc who will say, in essence, that the end justifies the means because Brash is racist etc, nothing to see here, right wing hit job yada yada.
Isn’t it interesting that the Ferald has no problem recycling Farrar’s work but don’t miss an opportunity to label him a “right-wing blogger”. Hypocrites.
You’d think what passes for our national paper would have submitted the oias themselves. Then again you’d think they’d look into the huge conflicts in Golly Gs backstory too.
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Winston has allowed labour a win to give them some good press . This doesn’t look at all contrived.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12127935
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I'm currently reading Douglas Murray's 'Strange Death of Europe' it does not pair well with this announcement:
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/107203279/refugee-quota-lifting-to-1500-by-2020
Thankfully its a pain in the ass getting here so we have few illegals and hopefully there are processes in place to ensure we get actual refugees.
Highly recommend the book by the way..just don't expect good nights sleeping while reading it.
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It's still a small number overall, but I'm not comfortable with increasing refugee quotas given what is happening in Europe. Won't really affect me though - it's the poor in NZ that get fucked over by this type of thing.
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@no-quarter luckily we have plenty of homes for everyone!
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@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
It's still a small number overall, but I'm not comfortable with increasing refugee quotas given what is happening in Europe. Won't really affect me though - it's the poor in NZ that get fucked over by this type of thing.
Oher than giving Rabbit teeth a halo she can parade around with, exactly how is this a cost that benefits NZ in any way shape or form? NZ has absolutely no obligation to take this number. If Japan won't, why should NZ?
I would also add that family reunification etc will increase that number considerably. It will be much more in a decade.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in NZ Politics:
I would also add that family reunification etc will increase that number considerably. It will be much more in a decade.
The current family reunification annual limit is 300: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/about-visa/refugee-family-support-resident-visa
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@donsteppa said in NZ Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in NZ Politics:
I would also add that family reunification etc will increase that number considerably. It will be much more in a decade.
The current family reunification annual limit is 300: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/about-visa/refugee-family-support-resident-visa
That's a good policy. Is there any way of bypassing it? I would be very surprised if an accepted refugee who had a wife and children was barred from bringing them into the country. I'd also be surprised if that figure isn't increased following the latest policy.
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https://www.immigration.govt.nz/documents/statistics/statistics-refugee-quota-arrivals for recent source countries to NZ (current financial year and the last eleven years) . Not sure what UNHCR may be up to in Venezuela, will be interesting to see if they end up on the list given recent developments there...
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This is such a colossal load of bullshit. To date I am still yet to see any study that definitely proves that women get paid less than men for the same work. All we have it total earning's over a lifetime, without taking into account so many variables that the data is completely meaningless.
These quotes are absurd:
Sage said the legislation would provide a simple and accessible way for workers to make claims within the country's existing bargaining framework. "Discrimination has led to lower pay for many female-dominated industries, despite having similar working conditions and skill requirements to comparable male-dominated occupations. "We must continue to close the gender pay gap and this bill is one piece of the puzzle to achieve that," she said. The Government has defined "pay equity" as requiring women and men receive the same pay for doing jobs that are different "but of equal value"
"equal value"?! WTF does that even mean? How can you possibly enforce that?
And do they seriously expect us to believe that many female dominated industries are lower paid just because of discrimination?
Thankfully the comments section is full of people calling this out for what it is - Marxist bullshit.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/107196234/pay-equity-bill-unveiled-by-government
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@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
This is such a colossal load of bullshit. To date I am still yet to see any study that definitely proves that women get paid less than men for the same work. All we have it total earning's over a lifetime, without taking into account so many variables that the data is completely meaningless.
These quotes are absurd:
Sage said the legislation would provide a simple and accessible way for workers to make claims within the country's existing bargaining framework. "Discrimination has led to lower pay for many female-dominated industries, despite having similar working conditions and skill requirements to comparable male-dominated occupations. "We must continue to close the gender pay gap and this bill is one piece of the puzzle to achieve that," she said. The Government has defined "pay equity" as requiring women and men receive the same pay for doing jobs that are different "but of equal value"
"equal value"?! WTF does that even mean? How can you possibly enforce that?
And do they seriously expect us to believe that many female dominated industries are lower paid just because of discrimination?
Thankfully the comments section is full of people calling this out for what it is - Marxist bullshit.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/107196234/pay-equity-bill-unveiled-by-government
That "equal value" argument is hilarious. Having realised that their underlying argument is total bullshit they then have to move the goalposts.
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