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@baron-silas-greenback said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
And it’s goodbye to Jami Lee Ross and the beginning of the end of Bridges .
Do it now please.
Bridges shouldnt go over this, bit I dont like him.. so i hope he does.
He looks weak .
Well weaker than usual . Times up
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our politicians are retards...National have had a great opportunity over the past 6 months to really drill the Labour coalition who have stumbled through thier own crisis and other issues, yet National are somehow gonna come out looking like the bigger bunch of dickheads!
Nice one Stu!
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@taniwharugby Yep - Labour have lurched from one disaster to another, and Bridges has been trotting from photo op to photo op and waving his kids at the camera. I mean the dude has a record low preferred PM rating, not sure why National are persisting with him when it is obvious he doesn't connect with people anywhere the way Jacinda does. He's a fucking idiot to try and play the cutesie happy clappy role. Meanwhile, Winny is sitting back and helping himself to everything, and he couldn't even win his own seat.
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@mokey said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby Yep - Labour have lurched from one disaster to another, and Bridges has been trotting from photo op to photo op and waving his kids at the camera. I mean the dude has a record low preferred PM rating, not sure why National are persisting with him when it is obvious he doesn't connect with people anywhere the way Jacinda does. He's a fucking idiot to try and play the cutesie happy clappy role. Meanwhile, Winny is sitting back and helping himself to everything, and he couldn't even win his own seat.
Apart from the fact that they are all out of coalition partners, National have a big problem now. Who do they have that can mount a credible challenge to Starbrite? All of the old guard are too tarnished, I like Crusher but she doesn't have the appeal. I don't know if they have anyone ready to go. I was all for an Adams Kaye ticket to pit Jacinda with double the women, including the one who beat her twice in general elections
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@canefan Is the TAB giving odds for next PM? A sneaky few bucks on Crusher might be a decent punt you know. I get that she’s about as likeable as your school dental nurse, but she makes the rest of the current crop of pols look like boys among men. Maybe she’s tarnished but I never could muster a care about the Oravida thing and there may be a good few like me who prefer a competent bastard to the incompetent saint we’ve got now.
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@jc said in NZ Politics:
@canefan Is the TAB giving odds for next PM? A sneaky few bucks on Crusher might be a decent punt you know. I get that she’s about as likeable as your school dental nurse, but she makes the rest of the current crop of pols look like boys among men. Maybe she’s tarnished but I never could muster a care about the Oravida thing and there may be a good few like me who prefer a competent bastard to the incompetent saint we’ve got now.
She is by far the most capable person they have. It's just a question as to whether she can win over the public or not
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@canefan Yep. It is a problem, and trying to fight Starbrite fire with fire is never going to gain them anything. They are fools to try. Bridges doesn't have any of Jacinda's natural warmth and connection with people (which is the only thing she has quite frankly) and it is very disappointing that the National party have rolled over and played kitten when Labour have given them so much fodder to be an attack tiger with. Jacinda doesn't deserve a pass for anything job-wise, and as long as they keep the fight above the belt so to speak and focus on politics/policy, they could have made hay with all the fuck ups. But no, they decided to try and out-cute her with Woman's Day cover shoots and baby pics. Epic fail.
The old guard will all be seen as out of touch now. And I think it is Crusher's personality rather than her past that will exclude her - against Jacinda she will be seen as too abrasive and unlikable, however competent. If National had wanted to actually fight fire with fire, they would have gone with Adams, or started grooming Kaye for a more senior position. They won't win with Bridges, who is doing a pretty piss-poor job overall, and this leaks saga is only making everyone look bad.
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With National it’s likely down to either Crusher or the tummy staple queen
Maybe there’s enough out there now who are over the star brite shit, baby photo ops and just want someone who actually appears competent. A little corrupt but if there’s less baby shit/partner doing fishing shows and more work then they may garner more support
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If anyone thinks Kaye and Adams are the answer.. I would love to know what question they are asking....
What exactly are they good at? How do they in any way stand for right of centre views?
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The nutter has gone and decided to make himself unemployable on his way out
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12143114
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Well, if someone hangs you out to dry, they shouldn't have any dirt on them that you have in your hands. That's dumb.
I won't say it's good, but if someone took away my career via a (bad) political choice (that investigation wasn't needed), I'd destory them if I could.
And, since it's Bridges, I don't care:)
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@baron-silas-greenback said in NZ Politics:
If anyone thinks Kaye and Adams are the answer.. I would love to know what question they are asking....
What exactly are they good at? How do they in any way stand for right of centre views?
In a shallow pool, I guess picking one of them negates the only strength Jacinda has. Picking the one that beat her twice is also a narrative you can lean on in the media.
I would then have Crusher as deputy so she can be the attack dog (which they tried to get Paula to do, but sh'e not good at it).
None of them are great, and does anybody in National stand for right of centre?
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@kirwan said in NZ Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback said in NZ Politics:
If anyone thinks Kaye and Adams are the answer.. I would love to know what question they are asking....
What exactly are they good at? How do they in any way stand for right of centre views?
In a shallow pool, I guess picking one of them negates the only strength Jacinda has. Picking the one that beat her twice is also a narrative you can lean on in the media.
I would then have Crusher as deputy so she can be the attack dog (which they tried to get Paula to do, but sh'e not good at it).
None of them are great, and does anybody in National stand for right of centre?
John Key was a centrist (at least that's where he pitched the tent). The main body of the NZ electorate are pretty centrist. Act are a bit further right and they are left right out if not for the Nats throwing the bone that is Epsom. The Nats need to work out what resonates best with the voting public closer to time. Out Jacinda Jacinda or another approach. The push back move is the Trumpian one but I'm not sure it will fly here
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@virgil said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
If what Ross says is true then the soy boy is toast. At least it’s two years out from the election.
You know that the ferald will be all over this so if there’s any hint of truth he will be fucked.
Good. I don’t want a corrupt pm
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@jegga said in NZ Politics:
@virgil said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
If what Ross says is true then the soy boy is toast. At least it’s two years out from the election.
You know that the ferald will be all over this so if there’s any hint of truth he will be fucked.
Good. I don’t want a corrupt pm
Meanwhile in the National Party offices right at this moment...
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