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@rotated said in NZ Politics:
@dogmeat said in NZ Politics:
Four women - with that?
If two Chinese > two Indians, what is the going exchange rate for four women?
about $1,200 an hour
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@mokey said in NZ Politics:
@paekakboyz what's with the 'romance'?? You want to get beaten up?
Mills & Boon ya'll!
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@jegga well if Ross has 'tapes' stating what he alleges, he could well be on the political side of things....but you have to say, what he has divulged so far is weak and he is a bit of a knob stumping his 'reputation' on this.
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Hosking with some interesting comments on Bridges (let alone Ross)
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12144416
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@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
Saw a headline saying Paula Bennett has described the women coming forward to accuse Jami-Lee of sexual indiscretions as "brave victims".
Sorry what? Were they consenting or not? How the fuck are they victims if they consented? Jesus just being a woman now apparently makes you a victim, no matter what you chose to do.
Or is she implying they were sexually assaulted or raped?
Fuck she's an idiot.
Regardless of what you think of the two who had relationships with him, two of them purely had the misfortune of working with him.
Threats and harassment A National Party member who says she was on the receiving end of Ross’ abuse, says she was “completely floored” by his claim he had never harassed a woman. “I watched as Jami-Lee Ross looked reporters in the eye and told the nation that he, ‘to the best of his knowledge, had never harassed a woman’. “He was calm. He was collected. He was every bit the master of deception.” He went on to say that “he was raised by his grandmother to respect women”. “Well, during the past two years, I can assure the public that my dealings with Jami-Lee Ross have never left me more harassed and disrespected as a woman in my whole life.” The woman says she had been involved closely with Ross in political circles for a number of years and were at one time good friends. That changed when a “difference of opinion” led to the two not seeing eye-to-eye. When the woman made clear she “wouldn’t be blackmailed with his threats”, the harassment started. "He said he would go to war with me and my family and told me 'You are throwing away your career.' “It was relentless and ongoing. Verbal threats. Intimidation. Lies, rumours to discredit me both personally and professionally. Manipulation of other party members to publicly embarrass me, statements to both myself and my friends which implied physical threats to myself and my family.” The list went on. As a National Party member and supporter, she stayed quiet over the years out of respect for the party. "I did raise my concerns with members of the leadership team of National. At the time, those people did what they felt they could to address the situation by discussing Jami-Lee's behaviour with him. "Unfortunately Jami-Lee is a very manipulative individual and he had plenty of ways to continue to intimidate and undermine me without it being particularly obvious to the National Party leadership. I do consider myself to be a strong person, and so I chose to rise above his behaviour and do my best to move on from it. “But after watching his press conference and his deception to the nation, and his promise to continue to deceive the Botany community by fighting to continue to represent them in Parliament by standing in a by-election which he himself has caused, I can no longer stand aside and allow his behaviour to go unchecked. “I am a woman. And over the past two years I have been left to feel absolutely intimidated, threatened and abused by this man.” She says she finds it “absolutely appalling” that he is now claiming mental health. And to his claim he, himself, was appalled by his leaders’ apparent lack of empathy? “Well… in the words of Jami-Lee himself… ‘I’m calling BS on that’. “This man is a narcissist. He absolutely turns on people when he doesn’t get his own way. He is a master manipulator and a deceitful liar who has no problem looking somebody in the eye and outright lying. “This behaviour seems to come naturally to him. I have said it several times before – he does not deserve to be in Parliament. The Botany electorate deserves so much better.” A pattern of behaviour A woman who worked in close quarters with Ross says he “nearly destroyed” her. “Not only was he rude and arrogant, he falsely accused me of things I didn’t do. He really didn’t treat me fairly.” The woman had a history of many years in Parliament, and says she has never experienced anything like it “before or since”. Ross continually undermined her and her work. “He was setting me up and I knew I hadn’t done the things he said I had." The woman said Ross would retrieve things she had discarded out of the rubbish bin to confront her, and would give her the silent treatment for days for no reason. Asked why she felt she could speak out now, she told Newsroom: “I’ve got nothing to lose. “I lost my self-esteem … I lost everything.” “I could have easily had a personal grievance case but I chose not to expose myself and the National Party for whom I had great respect.” The stress and anxiety became so bad she had to seek medical help. “I didn’t even feel like I could enter the building afterwards … he destroyed me as a person. “It makes me shake, just thinking of him.``` https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2018/10/17/281200/jami-lee-ross-four-women-speak-out
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
sounds like a top bloke...might find himself single and needing to leave NZ to find a job somewhere else as a, whatever it is he is qualified to do...?
He’s fucked . Google never forgets .
I expect him to end up like Brent Garner in a few years -
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
He’s fucked . Google never forgets .
I expect him to end up like Brent Garner in a few yearsgiven I dont know who Brent Garner is, I think thats good!
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@taniwharugby It really doesn't reflect well if the party leadership were aware of at least some of these things and did nothing. Leak stuff aside, he sounds like a complete fuckwit, and from Twitter etc, it appears his behaviour was one of those open secret type things. As others have said, he's seriously making himself unemployable. He'd have to be seriously loved in Botany to win a by-election. Be interesting to know his numbers from the last election.
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@mokey said in NZ Politics:
@taniwharugby It really doesn't reflect well if the party leadership were aware of at least some of these things and did nothing. Leak stuff aside, he sounds like a complete fuckwit, and from Twitter etc, it appears his behaviour was one of those open secret type things. As others have said, he's seriously making himself unemployable. He'd have to be seriously loved in Botany to win a by-election. Be interesting to know his numbers from the last election.
Majority of over 13,000 from what I’ve read this week.
Normally these years in between elections are so boring and uneventful..
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@taniwharugby said in NZ Politics:
@jegga said in NZ Politics:
He’s fucked . Google never forgets .
I expect him to end up like Brent Garner in a few yearsgiven I dont know who Brent Garner is, I think thats good!
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=3529312
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@virgil Hmmm. That is a huge majority. But then next question is, is Botany a seat where Cookie Monster could get elected because blue? Or is it Ross himself?
edit: just checked. Botany is a new seat, only been around since 2008. Pansy Wong held it for National, then resigned. Ross won 2011 by-election and has held since then.
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@Smudge none of that appears to state he targeted those women based on their gender, and certainly don't appear to have anything to do with sexual harassment. Just that he had a falling out with them and then tried to ruin them - much like he is now doing with Bridges. He just sounds like a complete asshole.
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@mokey said in NZ Politics:
@virgil Hmmm. That is a huge majority. But then next question is, is Botany a seat where Cookie Monster could get elected because blue? Or is it Ross himself?
edit: just checked. Botany is a new seat, only been around since 2008. Pansy Wong held it for National, then resigned. Ross won 2011 by-election and has held since then.
You going for it? Pretty sure you can count on at least 50 votes from the fern..
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@virgil said in NZ Politics:
@mokey said in NZ Politics:
@virgil Hmmm. That is a huge majority. But then next question is, is Botany a seat where Cookie Monster could get elected because blue? Or is it Ross himself?
edit: just checked. Botany is a new seat, only been around since 2008. Pansy Wong held it for National, then resigned. Ross won 2011 by-election and has held since then.
You going for it? Pretty sure you can count on at least 50 votes from the fern..
They will vote whoever the party wants them to put in I reckon. Even this guy
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@virgil Hahaha. I've had more than enough years in government, thanks. Besides. My current job allows me to watch porn, wander about in pjs or trackies, no commute, and I don't have to talk to anyone if i don't want to. Can't really top that.
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@no-quarter said in NZ Politics:
He just sounds like a complete asshole.
Yeah - and I doubt that "fact" will be lost on the people of Botany.
I'd be pretty amazed if he could win the by election as an independent, but even if he does, he'd likely get swept out at the next election. You've got to have cult status like Winston or Anderton to hold seats as an independent.
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@mokey said in NZ Politics:
@virgil Hahaha. I've had more than enough years in government, thanks. Besides. My current job allows me to watch porn, wander about in pjs or trackies, no commute, and I don't have to talk to anyone if i don't want to. Can't really top that.
If you’re ever in need of an assistant I doubt it would take you long to fill the position...
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