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@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@bones Let me put it back to you. Are you comfortable living in a society with children as young as 3 years old transitioning genders? I'm not a parent yet but this sort of thing terrifies me.
Nope not at all, but I didn't realise that's what we're talking about....I thought it was about what people in Britain might get addressed as in healthcare...perhaps I should have read the article.
It doesn't look like a big deal on the surface, but the idea behind using "they" is social constructionism applied to gender. I.E. they think the only reason there are personality differences between men and women is because we have socially constructed them. Which is why you see these people either making up their own genders or deciding they are no gender at all.
It's been proven to be straight up wrong, there's a wealth of scientific evidence pointing to the evolutionary and biological factors that influence personality and gender, which have been observed not only in humans but also other primates. So it's utterly bizarre that we are making all these changes to accommodate such an obviously defunct idea.
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@bones said in British Politics:
@rembrandt said in British Politics:
@bones Let me put it back to you. Are you comfortable living in a society with children as young as 3 years old transitioning genders? I'm not a parent yet but this sort of thing terrifies me.
Nope not at all, but I didn't realise that's what we're talking about....I thought it was about what people in Britain might get addressed as in healthcare...perhaps I should have read the article.
OK well it's associated. The concept being taught in academia as fact at the moment is that Gender is a social construct. This is demonstrably untrue and has extremely far reaching consequences. Currently there is a disproportionate amount of people in positions of power who are forcing this ideology on to the general public. This addressing people by 'they' is an extension of that and normalising that ideology. Children and vulnerable young adults are extremely susceptible to this influence and we are now entering an era where scientific articles demonstrating this danger are being censored, un-financed or removed due to activist pressure because it doesn't fit the false 'social construct' narrative.
The end result is people who should be in the first instance receiving psychological help for a condition are instead being pushed toward dangerous and irreversible treatments to put them into a community with a suicide rate higher than that of Jewish people in Nazi Germany. The fact is 80% of those who mis-identify with their gender pre-puberty re-identify by the time they finish puberty.
I accept that there are genuine transgender people but it is extremely rare and although I only have a sample of 1 as my transgender friends she feels the exactly the same as I do.
The other aspect too is this seems to be another step towards 'compelled speech' much like Canada's C-16 Bill which first bought Jordan Peterson into prominence.
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@bones said in British Politics:
@baron-silas-greenback well no that wouldn't offend me, but I don't see it that way. They're just not referring to me as anything. My thought would be...so what?
They are referring to you as a nothing? And that isnt offensive? wow
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@baron-silas-greenback not nothing, but if that's your take I can see how you'd be so easily offended. I can't see why it should bother me, but Rembrandt and NQ have done a fantastic job of explaining why it may effect them.
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Oh you didn't mean to hurt anyone with your sword, your suicide note and your Allahu Ackbar's! Well sounds legit, Not Guilty for you!
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No mention of Corbyn and the stupid woman "scandal"? The faux outrage was something for the ages. It's hilarious how self-proclaimed "strong women" are the first to clutch pearls and claim protection at even the slightest perceived insult. People who are strong, confident and independent usually don't give a shit what other people say about them. I suppose it is very amusing that Corbyn would have also gone the full retard if a Tory had said something similar.
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It is funny watching him squirm but he did nothing wrong, hell if he'd called her a fluffybunny I'd probably then at least have a modicum of respect for the commie piston wristed gibbon.
How on earth this is an issue is beyond me..surely there must be a couple of other issues more pressing right now..
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@rancid-schnitzel yeah what the fuck... How is the word "woman" the problem in that phrase? She's a fucken woman.
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@rembrandt said in British Politics:
It is funny watching him squirm but he did nothing wrong, hell if he'd called her a fluffybunny I'd probably then at least have a modicum of respect for the commie piston wristed gibbon.
How on earth this is an issue is beyond me..surely there must be a couple of other issues more pressing right now..
@Bones The thing is that despite being a socialist he is not really liked by MSM in the UK. For a start he's much too 1970's Sandanista socialism for their liking. Also he has shown little appetite for quelling anti-semitism in the Labour party and whilst that is obviously not such a heinous crime as being anti-Palestinian, it still offends the glitterati. So, any chance to stick the boot in will be taken.
I can't stand the man but agree he's done nothing wrong in this instance.
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@rancid-schnitzel said in British Politics:
No mention of Corbyn and the stupid woman "scandal"? The faux outrage was something for the ages. It's hilarious how self-proclaimed "strong women" are the first to clutch pearls and claim protection at even the slightest perceived insult. People who are strong, confident and independent usually don't give a shit what other people say about them. I suppose it is very amusing that Corbyn would have also gone the full retard if a Tory had said something similar.
Look, the guy is a complete knobend, let’s get that out of the way first, and I’m inclined to disagree with anything he says on principle. But it’s hard to see how this is an issue.
He thinks May is stupid, well it may be unparliamentary language but he’s entitled to his opinion.
And she is a woman (or at least she hasn’t objected to anybody assuming her gender). But is seems like if you put those two words together it becomes a sexist insult rather than just a description made up of an adjective and a noun, neither of which, from his perspective, are wrong.
In a couple of months in which May has borne the brunt of some pretty forthright and damning criticism it’s amazing that this is the “insult” that people are taking offence at.
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@jc said in British Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in British Politics:
No mention of Corbyn and the stupid woman "scandal"? The faux outrage was something for the ages. It's hilarious how self-proclaimed "strong women" are the first to clutch pearls and claim protection at even the slightest perceived insult. People who are strong, confident and independent usually don't give a shit what other people say about them. I suppose it is very amusing that Corbyn would have also gone the full retard if a Tory had said something similar.
Look, the guy is a complete knobend, let’s get that out of the way first, and I’m inclined to disagree with anything he says on principle. But it’s hard to see how this is an issue.
He thinks May is stupid, well it may be unparliamentary language but he’s entitled to his opinion.
And she is a woman (or at least she hasn’t objected to anybody assuming her gender). But is seems like if you put those two words together it becomes a sexist insult rather than just a description made up of an adjective and a noun, neither of which, from his perspective, are wrong.
In a couple of months in which May has borne the brunt of some pretty forthright and damning criticism it’s amazing that this is the “insult” that people are taking offence at.
I did a search for Corby stupid woman and got a ridiculous number of hits from mainstream media sites. Including this doozy of a headline from the Torygraph:
"Corbyn's denial over his 'stupid woman' jibe is a denial of just how big Labour's women problem is"
Ffs. I agree that Labour have a big woman problem and her name is Dianne Abbott.
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@JC said in British Politics:
@rancid-schnitzel said in British Politics:
No mention of Corbyn and the stupid woman "scandal"? The faux outrage was something for the ages. It's hilarious how self-proclaimed "strong women" are the first to clutch pearls and claim protection at even the slightest perceived insult. People who are strong, confident and independent usually don't give a shit what other people say about them. I suppose it is very amusing that Corbyn would have also gone the full retard if a Tory had said something similar.
Look, the guy is a complete knobend, let’s get that out of the way first, and I’m inclined to disagree with anything he says on principle. But it’s hard to see how this is an issue.
He thinks May is stupid, well it may be unparliamentary language but he’s entitled to his opinion.
And she is a woman (or at least she hasn’t objected to anybody assuming her gender). But is seems like if you put those two words together it becomes a sexist insult rather than just a description made up of an adjective and a noun, neither of which, from his perspective, are wrong.
In a couple of months in which May has borne the brunt of some pretty forthright and damning criticism it’s amazing that this is the “insult” that people are taking offence at.
Pretty sure that's exactly what I just said verbatim.
But nah, summed up perfectly. The denial was bloody stupid though. It's like a line out of Austin Powers, who says stupid person?
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@Rembrandt I expect we will be enlightened to be told that none of the fall out was Chavez fault and that it is all a conspiracy by corporate USA and Europe to de-stabilise a socialist utopia.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
@Rembrandt I expect we will be enlightened to be told that none of the fall out was Chavez fault and that it is all a conspiracy by corporate USA and Europe to de-stabilise a socialist utopia.
Of course it was America. You sheeple need to wake up. The USA will never be fixed until the constitution is changed so that only Womxn of Color are allowed to be President and everybody is trans.
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@JC said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
@Rembrandt I expect we will be enlightened to be told that none of the fall out was Chavez fault and that it is all a conspiracy by corporate USA and Europe to de-stabilise a socialist utopia.
Of course it was America. You sheeple need to wake up. The USA will never be fixed until the constitution is changed so that only Womxn of Color are allowed to be President and everybody is trans.
Sounds like utopia. Wait. No. What? Oh I’m sure I’ll be told soon.
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@Rembrandt which crime is not like the others in their top 5 collection?:
MOPAC’s figures showed startling rises in several crime types over 2017, which saw 80 people stabbed to death amid concerns about acid attacks and violent robberies in the capital.
Homicide increased by a third to 137 murders, all knife crimes were up more than a quarter to more than 14,500 incidents that saw 2,000 victims under the age of 25 injured.
Personal robbery increased by 40 per cent, theft from the person a third and Islamophobic hate crime by 39 per cent to 1,678 recorded incidents.
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