GOT - there will be spoilers
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@Daffy-Jaffy that is so fucking good.
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@TeWaio said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Great episode, but the over-darkness thing really annoyed me. Sure, I can watch it at night / turn TV brightness right up, but why should I have to do this? If you're going to wank on about the time / cost / numbers involved in the #mostepictvbattleever then why make it so hard to see? Blah blah "atmosphere"? Dickheads.
The Arya/library scene was corny, they've just sacked a near-impregnable castle, the zombies are going to be busy charging around murdering people, not shuffling quietly in an otherwise empty part. Hound-spiration was great as was the pep talk with the Red babe. Taking down the Night King was awesome, I like that it wasn't 100% the prophecy. For those wondering how she snuck up on the NK, she's a faceless assassin who can do magic, and she grew up in Winterfell, of course she could. Cool that the dagger went full circle from being used in Bran's assassination attempt to killing Littlefinger and now this.
Glad that the White Walker thing is over, zombie/death/climate change stuff is not as interesting as the human politics and seeing who wins the throne.
Jon Snow is an idiot when it comes to military strategy, charging straight at the Night King. Almost as bad as his non-use of the giant Wun Wun in the Battle of the Bastards. Glad to see zombie Wun Wun come back and wreck some people, before annoying little Mormont girl eye-stabbed him. Dany is useless with her dragons, less flying around aimlessly / more burning ground troops please.
I could barely see most of the dragon aerial battle due to the aforementioned darkness, but did Rhaegal (Jon's dragon) survive? I assumed both that one and the ice-dragon Viserion were hurt, hence they both lost their riders, and the ice dragon couldn't fly thereafter but still did some damage with blue flames on the ground. If Dany is the only one left with a functioning dragon, then that's important looking fwd to who wins the throne, if Jon and her ever had to square off for it.
Why couldn't the Night King be killed by direct dragon flame if other wights / White Walkers could? But he still died immediately when pricked in the midriff by a Valyrian steel dagger? Isn't Valyrian steel forged in dragonfire / derived from dragon magic? Seems illogical.
Did all the Dothraki come over to Westeros with Dany (and then die)? Or did she leave some in Essos, like the women and children? It would be sad if that entire race/culture was expended as cannon fodder.
Edit: apparently Rhaegal appears in Episode 4 trailer so he's all good.
Completely forgot how Ramsey killed him when he was normal and why he had one eye. Makes sense now though.
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Apparently the night king died so essily because of where he was stabbed as well as what he was stabbed with. Apparently the jewel used to turn him.was shattered in his chest
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback can you tell me where'd that come from? Was it in the episode review bit they do?
But all the others got down with a single hit, so no reason he wouldn't either, I guess.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback can you tell me where'd that come from? Was it in the episode review bit they do?
But all the others got down with a single hit, so no reason he wouldn't either, I guess.
Some review thing. Dont know if true, but makes a type of sense.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback Just looked at it, they're wrong, the blade goes in left of his left nipple - with one arm raised holding her his segmented armour opens a gap through to the under layer of armour. 8k years and hasn't sorted that!
Ugh click on the image to open in a new tab, then it's visible!
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Had to chuckle at Rian Johnson's tweet..
"Goddammit I had this whole amazing night king theory"
As for the too dark thing, I totally get what they were doing and I'm sure it worked well on their test screens. To now try and blame the viewers for 'not knowing how to adjust their TVs properly' or 'watching it on a portable device' is pissing a few folk off. Also the viewer has no control over how much their provider compresses the broadcast.
How about a warning in advance if you want to move away from lowest common denominator broadcasting?
It is all like the visual equivalent to mumble dramas where the dialogue is lost to those not using well tuned soundbars or home theatre systems.
I believe some clever folk have uploaded brightened pieces of the battle to youtube that show just how rich and incredible it could have looked without the 'mood' aspect. Haven't watched them yet.
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@Machpants yeah, the lighting was great on my OLED. The biggest problem I had was blotchy compression artefacts in all the swirly mist and firelight. But that’s an issue with compression for transmission not the source material. Another area where Sky has some work to do.
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@Machpants I have a flat in the UK where I have the same TV I’ve got here in NZ but connected to a Sky UK “Sky Q” box, which is 4K UHD. I got to watch the first of this series of GoT there a couple of weeks ago and the difference between there and back here in NZ is depressing. It’s a real pain that The Apple store in NZ doesn’t do TV shows either. They have same day release of GoT downloads in 4K in other parts of the world but not here.
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Yes, it seems I shot myself in the foot in first watch. I use Now TV to get episodes and I downloaded a copy on iPad before going to work. Apparently Now uses adaptive streaming so would have adjusted quality based on my WiFi rate.
I have since watched on our fairly average TV and it has come out fine, likely due to being connected via 100 Mbps cable so has come through at a high bit rate -
About three articles I've read now mention theories that the night king isn't really dead?? Is this in relation to Bran possibly being the NK? Also the NK targaryn theories... Not sure about that one though. Im quite happy with him being gone and maybe just having a bit more back story on his motives but that would be a rubbish twist and surely there's not enough room for that in this series anyway.
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@RLx31 Yeah I'm sort of in the same place. Surely that story is not finished, there must be something else, but... do we have enough time to provide anything meaningful. I'm hoping for a short but major plot twist that provides some closure here.
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@RLx31 said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
About three articles I've read now mention theories that the night king isn't really dead?? Is this in relation to Bran possibly being the NK? Also the NK targaryn theories... Not sure about that one though. Im quite happy with him being gone and maybe just having a bit more back story on his motives but that would be a rubbish twist and surely there's not enough room for that in this series anyway.
Doubt the NK is Targaryen, he was created thousands of years ago. The Targs only invades Westeros 300 years ago. (Fucking nerd!)
Having re watched the final scene with Arya several times it was a fucken epic moment imho.
If you go back at past Arya moments throughout GOT it makes a lot of sense. Her early training with Syrio (he had her sneaking around the dungeons of kings landing trying to catch cats)
We know she’s handy in the dark (Gendry really knows) and the use of that dagger is a complete 360 given it was used to kill Bran back in season 1.
And was given to Arya by Bran in that exact same spot were the NK was taken down.Also did anyone spot bran briefly looking down at the NK as he stared him down? Like he knew where the fatal stabbing was going to happen
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Yeah NK is gone, there'll be so much more in the books if they are ever done. GRR has said that Arya has a very important part to play, but I think the books will diverge a lot, I dunno if she'll do the deed in the boks.
It is a nice circle of the dagger, Arya has had decent arc, so yeah. Just bummed that the NK was nothing but a BBEG.
The writers, I think, have said the last 3 Eps are almost standalone in that Ep 4 Beginning, Ep 5 Middle, Ep 6 End.