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@Rembrandt said in British Politics:
I didn't realise but results from today's election aren't released until Sunday. Pretty big delay, there is certainly a level of paranoia in the UKIP/Robinson camps advising everyone to bring their own pens for fear of someone disappearing some votes with an eraser (surely if someone was going to go to those lengths they'd just spoil ballets done in pen).
Anyway milkshake related voter intimidation is underway and is being promoted by the group 'Stand up to racism' of which Shadow Home Secretary Dianne Abbot is president - don't worry it's not really intimidation only nazi's need to be concerned
Damn veteran nazis!! You bought it on yourselves for your nazi brexit stance!
God bless those virtuous remainers, if they weren't there to assault women and the elderly the far right really could gain a foothold in Britain.
I saw this shared on social media, and the slew of comments below it were people saying they needed to see his verified military record, as they suspected he was an actor hired by Farage to stage the milkshaking. Depressing.
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I hate all this milkshake shit. Bit of a skid mark on the supposed political freedoms which this country offers.
I'm almost glad this war vet got hit. Because it might make the % that believes this sort of stuff is appropriate think again. Throwing a milkshake on an old man because he holds different political views to you is an astonishingly shit thing to do.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
This. Just this.
We can all rant on about the decline of the UK, the march of the Alt-Right, the poison that is Antifa, the shit media, the political arrogance and corruption and all the while the creeping cancer that is craft beer creeps under the radar.That is 24 carat comedy gold.
Had a shit day and your post cheered me up. Almost as much as watching Matt Dawson getting dumped on
his arse by Jerry CollinsFIFY.
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@Stockcar86 said in British Politics:
Expert analysis in this thread - I'm not a big believer of false flag theories, but...
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@MiketheSnow It would be better if the guy had released the CCTV footage.
Damn that came out as frottage at first.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
Back to Politics ... she's gone.
Resigned effective 7th June
In some way it was a shame it wasn't just the few days earlier and the headline could have read "The end of May before the end of May".
Who is going to pick up the ball and run with it now though? A Brexiteer PM would seem to be the more likely but will he/she be able to sway the Commons to accept their option? Will it be any other option than "No deal"?
I think we're just that little bit further up shit creek sans paddle.
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@Catogrande Dunno mate, some leadership that moves forwards will be a welcome thing.
I hope like hell it's not Johnson, but it's a possibility.
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Can only be hopeless for so long, she was well overdue to fall on her sword or be rolled, but neither side had a spine until now. Cromwell comes to mind:
You have sat too long for any good you have been doing lately... Depart, I say; and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
@Catogrande said in British Politics:
This. Just this.
We can all rant on about the decline of the UK, the march of the Alt-Right, the poison that is Antifa, the shit media, the political arrogance and corruption and all the while the creeping cancer that is craft beer creeps under the radar.That is 24 carat comedy gold.
Had a shit day and your post cheered me up. Almost as much as watching Matt Dawson getting dumped on
his arse by Jerry CollinsFIFY.
My favourite Dawson memory to cheer me up is when the shouty twat was making the Uk papers rwc teams after 2003 and his club shifted him to centre to make way for a kiwi who couldn’t even get a super 12 contract .
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Catogrande Dunno mate, some leadership that moves forwards will be a welcome thing.
I hope like hell it's not Johnson, but it's a possibility.
I think either that Nebbish Hammond or an out and out Brexiteer. Either way they will have to deal with the EU that don't want us to go and the Commons that don't want us to go.
Continuing shit storm for the time being I feel.
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@MajorRage said in British Politics:
Back to Politics ... she's gone.
Resigned effective 7th June
Or will she?
If her Brexit timeframe is any marker. She's got previous.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Catogrande Dunno mate, some leadership that moves forwards will be a welcome thing.
I hope like hell it's not Johnson, but it's a possibility.
I think either that Nebbish Hammond or an out and out Brexiteer. Either way they will have to deal with the EU that don't want us to go and the Commons that don't want us to go.
Continuing shit storm for the time being I feel.
It's about time that Bo Jo stopped shit stirring and grasped the nettle.
He wanted out. So take us fucking out you spineless twat.
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
@MajorRage said in British Politics:
@Catogrande Dunno mate, some leadership that moves forwards will be a welcome thing.
I hope like hell it's not Johnson, but it's a possibility.
I think either that Nebbish Hammond or an out and out Brexiteer. Either way they will have to deal with the EU that don't want us to go and the Commons that don't want us to go.
Continuing shit storm for the time being I feel.
Gove?
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@Catogrande said in British Politics:
I think either that Nebbish Hammond
Do you mean Philip Hammond? Deeply unpopular within the Tory party.
I doubt if he'll even stand
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Pretty much has to be a Brexiteer IMHO. A leader who can produce a settlement on Brexit which parliament can back and which respects the 2016 result as much as possible.
He/She will have more chance of getting the hard Brexit brigade to compromise and, if Farage does as well as expected, bring Labour MPs in Leave areas on board
Can't see anyone who wants to effectively ignore and rerun the 2016 Referendum result being able to do that which effectively.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in British Politics:
Pretty much has to be a Brexiteer IMHO. A leader who can produce a settlement on Brexit which parliament can back and which respects the 2016 result as much as possible.
He/She will have more chance of getting the hard Brexit brigade to compromise and, if Farage does as well as expected, bring Labour MPs in Leave areas on board
Can't see anyone who wants to effectively ignore and rerun the 2016 Referendum result being able to do that which effectively.
As much as May has been ineffective I doubt very much that she has not been trying hard to engineer an exit. The concept that it will all fall into place because the main negotiator supports the outcome only goes so far.
I can't believe that the hard brexiteer element of the party is still convincing people that they can do a better job without coming up with any alternative themselves.
To anyone that says 'no deal' I say 'Northern Ireland'
Rees-Mogg was interviewed the other night and specifically asked why he thinks Boris would do a better job. His answer was 'because he has charisma' and 'because he supports the outcome'. Not an inkling of actual solutions.Part of this clusterfuck as all along been the power games (from all parties). I can almost guarantee that Boris will take power then turn around and say 'the solution is complicated'
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@Crucial said in British Politics:
As much as May has been ineffective I doubt very much that she has not been trying hard to engineer an exit
May's problem is she progressively alienated the people she needed to get on board and produce a settlement they could own. It was always her way or else
I can't believe that the hard brexiteer element of the party is still convincing people that they can do a better job without coming up with any alternative themselves.
Agreed. I just think a Brexiteer will have more chance of getting people to accept a deal as they will see it as a "real Brexit" and won't be able to use May as an excuse. Ironically, it's probably going to be close to May's deal
To anyone that says 'no deal' I say 'Northern Ireland'
"No deal" is perfectly OK with the DUP as they're treated the same as the UK. It's the supposed economic impacts of a No Deal which means it won't pass the HoC.
I can almost guarantee that Boris will take power then turn around and say 'the solution is complicated'
Probably easier for Brexit-supporting MP's to accept that from Brexiteer Boris rather than May.
Part of this clusterfuck as all along been the power games (from all parties).
The main issue is MP's have been openly trying to ignore/overturn the referendum result. Regardless of what happens next on Brexit, there's a big sea-change a-coming
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