NZ Judiciary
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Another example of the law being an ass
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@jegga said in NZ Judiciary:
Two rapes? No jail for you if you're good at sports
Stuff has in the mean time added this correction to the article:
* CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story incorrectly reported that the teenager had been spared jail after a court heard of his promising sport career. In fact, because the case was heard in the Youth Court a jail term was not a sentencing option available to the judge. We regret the error.
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@Stargazer said in NZ Judiciary:
@jegga said in NZ Judiciary:
Two rapes? No jail for you if you're good at sports
Stuff has in the mean time added this correction to the article:
* CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story incorrectly reported that the teenager had been spared jail after a court heard of his promising sport career. In fact, because the case was heard in the Youth Court a jail term was not a sentencing option available to the judge. We regret the error.
It also says the police tried to get the trial held in court so he would be available for a jail sentence. Our justice system appears to have very few fucks to give to victims of crime .
I swear this guy was already on his last chance -
@jegga said in NZ Judiciary:
@Stargazer said in NZ Judiciary:
@jegga said in NZ Judiciary:
Two rapes? No jail for you if you're good at sports
Stuff has in the mean time added this correction to the article:
* CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story incorrectly reported that the teenager had been spared jail after a court heard of his promising sport career. In fact, because the case was heard in the Youth Court a jail term was not a sentencing option available to the judge. We regret the error.
It also says the police tried to get the trial held in court so he would be available for a jail sentence. Our justice system appears to have very few fucks to give to victims of crime .
I swear this guy was already on his last chanceHe was only in the car because he was handing back his gang patch.... I'm more than a little sceptical of that claim.
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@Paekakboyz said in NZ Judiciary:
@jegga that is a massive F-up in reporting by Stuff. No real surprises though aye.
No surprises, the cops should have pushed harder to get him into court though, if he's raped two girls before he was 18 I'd put good money on him doing it again.
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Once again , zero fucks for the victim who lives next door to this kid.
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@jegga A complete little shit.
On a side note, I would be quite happy to never read/hear again about some fuckstick's promising/potential sports career impacted if they get a criminal conviction. Don't want a conviction? Don't commit crimes. It should be about impact on the victim.
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@Mokey said in NZ Judiciary:
@jegga A complete little shit.
On a side note, I would be quite happy to never read/hear again about some fuckstick's promising/potential sports career impacted if they get a criminal conviction. Don't want a conviction? Don't commit crimes. It should be about impact on the victim.
Agree , these are the attitudes wanting to reform our justice system at the moment though
This one in particular appalls me
And Alison Mau split $26000 with another speaker to mc the justice summit. She also hasn't said a thing about labour having an alleged rapist working for them despite hijacking #metoo in NZ and becoming the face of it.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12132960
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@jegga If National had a leader who wasn't a farking idiot, they could be making hay with this. 1.6m on a two day summit?
Also, Alison Mau is a giant hypocrite. You can't be all dum dee doo, nothing to see here, if the sexual assault stuff is within the party you support. You're against it, you're against it all.
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One of those classic "wellness" raw unpasteurised juice companies.... who didn't extend the wellness courtesy to their own staff...
A fruit juice company whose employee was killed after being dragged into machinery has been fined $367,500 and ordered to pay $141,000 to the employee's widower.
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@Tim that is grim. Real grim. I struggle with the use of home detention where it's a softer (but not easy) sentence condition. I am totally for rehabilitation but there are crimes that really challenge where the line is - or how punishment transitions to rehabilitation without undercutting the chance of genuine behaviour change.
Cause this guy is a fluffybunny. While I hope he can become a passable human being was being in prison while on remand enough stick?
Is home detention that much cheaper? Aside from the monitoring side of things surely it is. Also wonder if home detention will be seen as even softer, or possibly harder, now that people have experienced lockdown a few times.
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@Paekakboyz Yeah, I don't usually like posting that sort of thing, but that instance struck me as particularly cruel.
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@Tim and with our shit record of child abuse stuff like that is far too common
Also as the cycle continues we will continue to have people who get sentenced with consideration of their own troubled aka fucking horrid upbringings. Obviously far more context and nuance in the mix. But holy shit we need to figure out a way forward with all of this.
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@Paekakboyz i have read judges summaries citing it is tougher being a prisoner in your own home, am sure they must have data or research but you'd think it would be easier at home.
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@taniwharugby while where you are limited too obviously can vary us humans do react pretty strongly to be restricted in movement. A fair few do thrive in isolation but most of us would struggle with it after long enough.