Coronavirus - Overall
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I'd love to see infection case figures based on winter countries vs hotter countries. There have been cases in Singapore and the surroundings but are they directly associated with travellers from China or spontaneous cases? Meanwhile in NZ cabinet will apparently review travel restrictions....
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
I'd love to see infection case figures based on winter countries vs hotter countries. There have been cases in Singapore and the surroundings but are they directly associated with travellers from China or spontaneous cases? Meanwhile in NZ cabinet will apparently review travel restrictions....
I guess that should be answered in the next few weeks. Indonesia apparently don't have any cases which some are saying is suspect, hopefully it just doesn't like warmer climates..
Swine Flu jumped over to warmer countries, I remember folk at work being signed off with it in the UK but I don't remember any of the border closures or mass quarantining we are seeing here, not sure what that says really. Tough striking the balance between public safety, avoiding panic and not impacting the economy. Some governments can be better trusted than others.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
I'd love to see infection case figures based on winter countries vs hotter countries. There have been cases in Singapore and the surroundings but are they directly associated with travellers from China or spontaneous cases? Meanwhile in NZ cabinet will apparently review travel restrictions....
Countries in summer - I think sunlight kills it quickly, and in summer people are outside more. Will be interesting; ther's a lot of noise about something that doesn't seem that different to flu in mortality rates.
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
I'd love to see infection case figures based on winter countries vs hotter countries. There have been cases in Singapore and the surroundings but are they directly associated with travellers from China or spontaneous cases? Meanwhile in NZ cabinet will apparently review travel restrictions....
Countries in summer - I think sunlight kills it quickly, and in summer people are outside more. Will be interesting; ther's a lot of noise about something that doesn't seem that different to flu in mortality rates.
Feels like media traffic has eased of late. Hopefully a good sign
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
I'd love to see infection case figures based on winter countries vs hotter countries. There have been cases in Singapore and the surroundings but are they directly associated with travellers from China or spontaneous cases? Meanwhile in NZ cabinet will apparently review travel restrictions....
Countries in summer - I think sunlight kills it quickly, and in summer people are outside more. Will be interesting; ther's a lot of noise about something that doesn't seem that different to flu in mortality rates.
The hysteria is more contagious.
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
I'd love to see infection case figures based on winter countries vs hotter countries. There have been cases in Singapore and the surroundings but are they directly associated with travellers from China or spontaneous cases? Meanwhile in NZ cabinet will apparently review travel restrictions....
Countries in summer - I think sunlight kills it quickly, and in summer people are outside more. Will be interesting; ther's a lot of noise about something that doesn't seem that different to flu in mortality rates.
The hysteria is more contagious.
Main stream media is a willing vector
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
I'd love to see infection case figures based on winter countries vs hotter countries. There have been cases in Singapore and the surroundings but are they directly associated with travellers from China or spontaneous cases? Meanwhile in NZ cabinet will apparently review travel restrictions....
Countries in summer - I think sunlight kills it quickly, and in summer people are outside more. Will be interesting; ther's a lot of noise about something that doesn't seem that different to flu in mortality rates.
I think the bigger issue isn't so much mortality rates but rather how many cases are requiring of specialist hospital treatment, 1 in 5 seems to be an early indicator of this which would put a big strain on medical facilities.. but that might be missing folk who get extremely mild symptoms and not be tested. Infectiousness also seems to be higher than the flu and there seems to be evidence of a very long incubation period.
Thing is unlike the flu this is very new and there are way too many unknowns and dodgy data to confidently predict which way it will go. Government responses seems pretty unprecedented..but maybe that's just learning from previous pandemics.
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You guys are taking this virus way too lightly. I can tell this, because as of yesterday, the Indonesian Gov has massively stepped up their screening processes.
Last night we flew back into Bali, and in addition to the normal arrival card, there was a new form that we had to complete. It was bright yellow, which everyone knows is the colour of very bad diseases. We also needed to do 1 each, whereas the arrival cards are 1 per family. And in addition to simply repeating 8 of the same questions from the arrival card, it had an extra question at the bottom - a very tricky "How are you feeling today" with 2 check-box options, one for "Sickly", the other for "Healthy".
If you checked "Healthy" correctly, then you got to exchange your bright yellow form for a new yellow form of a slightly less-bright shade. Luckily my family all got the bonus question correct and were allowed to proceed into the wild.
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Had a yarn with a work colleague who has a Chinese wife and is a frequent visitor..he's very pro CCP so its fair to say we have the odd 'disagreement' over lunch from time to time. From the info he has he reckons China has a handle on things even though their methods might seem a bit harsh. Apparently in some areas you now need a permit to go outside and he also talked about the 'welding people into their homes for their own good' which sounded crazy but sure enough there has been reporting of it.
Interestingly outside of work he runs some accommodation with his wife and he's gone and cancelled all booking with Chinese names. Now that to me is actual racism..but from someone who loves China so its all very confusing.
Cases now reported in Iraq, Oman, Kuwait, Afghanistan and Bahrain but on the plus side Singapore's recovery rate is continuing to surpass its infection rate, no doubt due to a functioning government but hopefully something to do with the heat too.
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It does seem to be getting far more serious, with implications for global markets, the Olympics, and other global events.
The spread within Europe will be interesting to watch. If it hits Paris then the spread will become almost impossible to contain, I'd have thought.
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@nzzp said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Or "medicine" might have worked too.
Ah! Essential oils!
Seeing as how I have lived to a reasonably ripe age without using these things, I'd say they're not really that essential. Optional Oils perhaps.
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@Catogrande said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@nzzp said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Snowy said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Or "medicine" might have worked too.
Ah! Essential oils!
Seeing as how I have lived to a reasonably ripe age without using these things, I'd say they're not really that essential. Optional Oils perhaps.
HATE SPEECH
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From local government:
With the concerted effort of Suzhou people, prevention and control of COVID-19 has produced positive results over the recent month. By February 24, 2020, there has been no new confirmed or suspected case in Suzhou for 7 consecutive days. Jiangsu Province lowered COVID-19 emergency response level from first level to second. However, we must be aware of the severity and complexity of COVID-19 outbreak at the global scale. With confirmed cases surged in some countries, the spread of the disease is yet to be contained effectively. A few countries declared raising the COVID-19 alert level to the highest.
Hopefully the economy will start cranking up soon!
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@Tim said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
From local government:
With the concerted effort of Suzhou people, prevention and control of COVID-19 has produced positive results over the recent month. By February 24, 2020, there has been no new confirmed or suspected case in Suzhou for 7 consecutive days. Jiangsu Province lowered COVID-19 emergency response level from first level to second. However, we must be aware of the severity and complexity of COVID-19 outbreak at the global scale. With confirmed cases surged in some countries, the spread of the disease is yet to be contained effectively. A few countries declared raising the COVID-19 alert level to the highest.
Hopefully the economy will start cranking up soon!
I had a bunch of items unsent from China that all got shipped out today, so this is not idle talk