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@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD this is all pretty much bullshit Mick. Would it have been less careless touching the team ball in practice or putting a sweat-covered screen up for Mitchell to come off?
Yeah, he made light of the situation and it was ill-timed and potentially lead to someone getting the virus. But there were probably many other instances, where the virus could have spread, like the ones I just mentioned where Rudy would have just been doing his job.
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD Man you are tough of late! The guy acted like an ass. But it just indicates how the average guy in the USA probably viewed the virus a week ago. And it's not like he will be the only guy to contract it. Far from it and it may help educate their people as to how serious this situation is. Sports were going to shut down and it's not all thanks to one guy
"Man you are tough of late!" I'm confined to base, Canefan, recovering from something health-wise and I have time to read and comment for the moment. After a lifetime of action and leading and dedication to rugby, and junior cricket to a lesser extent, I have opinions which I am happy to express.
I missed the bit where someone attributed the shut down to this one fellow.
Just now the appalling stupidity of sports identities has attracted my attention, and the efforts of apologists to excuse them. Their clubs have numerous sessions teaching them to not be drongos but they are too dim to understand the moving pictures and short words used to get the message across.
I grew up with plenty of future stars in many sports (some of whom went on to grade for Canterbury) and met dozens of others - that's what you get when you've been around for a while. Thommo, Doug Walters, John Sattler, Peter Gallagher, Tom Veivers, Farr-Jones, Bugner, Tszyu, Topo - none of them behaved anything like it.
Each time Alan Border had a run of good scores, or local and good bloke Greg Matthews took wickets, our junior cricket registrations went through the roof. We were putting 120 or more young blokes on the field every rugby season and many of them went on to populate our Mighty Eastwood teams from Colts to First Grade for the next decade, all wanting to emulate (then shy) local Matt Burke.
They have a role to play in public life whether they like it or not, and despite the mugs believing they should not suffer such an expectation, and they ought to use it responsibly or get well out of sight.
In an outstanding interview in 2007 by Parkinson of recently retired Shane Warne¹ he left the best to last, and Warne responded with typical unadorned candor:
Warne: "... if you like me great, if you don't so be it. I am who I am."
Parkinson: "Role model?"
Warne: "Role model - I think I have been. There's a lot of kids who would like to be like me and hopefully a lot of them can not make the same mistakes that I have ... they can learn by me."
Shane Warne did not deny the influence his prominence brought. He readily accepted his behavior had an impact.
¹ I just watched his departure from the game at the SCG, reminding myself how this so cocky, flamboyant, fierce and able competitor left the arena with such understatement and humility. It was a special moment in Australian sport.
While I am on a roll - to illustrate just how readily and naturally Australians react to those people they admire:
We had a bad summer with widespread bush fires in Victoria. Television news showed the prime minister (that pasty looking Rudd sheila) arrive at a volunteer fire fighters camp in his limousine, alighting and walking towards them. They just stood silent and looked disinterested as he approached.
The same broadcast showed a similar visit elsewhere, in which Warnie jumped out from the front seat before his driver had come to a complete stop, strode forward with a grin, hand outstretched and "G'day fellas". He's a natural. These middle aged men moved as one, surrounding him with some applauding and others greeting him. It was all smiles, noise and mateship.
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@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
just now the appalling stupidity of sports identities has attracted my attention, and the efforts of apologists to excuse them. Their clubs have numerous sessions teaching them to not be drongos but they are too dim to understand the moving pictures and short words used to get the message across.
lol dim apologists. Righto.
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Err - no. Dim sports identities.
Last time I looked it said "clubs have numerous sessions teaching" "sports identities" who are "too dim to understand", not apologists.
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@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
Err - no. Dim sports identities.
Last time I looked it said "clubs have numerous sessions teaching" "sports identities" who are "too dim to understand", not apologists.
It's the millenials old boy
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@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD my apologies I misread.
I still think there was always going to be a transfer of the virus with Gobert regardless of his antics though. If he trained with the team then he was going to touch the ball, make body contact and breath heavily over someone in close proximity.
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@raznomore Gobert hadn't trained with the team at OKC but could have had the virus in the days before that. The comments from teammates about his cavalier attitude of deliberately touching their stuff in the locker room doesn't reflect favourably on him though.
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@raznomore said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@Mick-Gold-Coast-QLD my apologies I misread.
I still think there was always going to be a transfer of the virus with Gobert regardless of his antics though. If he trained with the team then he was going to touch the ball, make body contact and breath heavily over someone in close proximity.
Of course - I thought your point "careless touching the team ball in practice or putting a sweat-covered screen up" made sense when I first read it.
I do not understand why codes are to empty the stadiums of spectators while retaining the teams of blokes and sheilas to gallop about the joint tackling and jostling and falling all over each other. (From the AIDS "blood bin" onwards I could not reconcile why the administrators had players drink from individual squirt bottles and carefully pass them back to water boy Alfie, then recommence the game by packing a scrum down right over the spot where a dozen blokes just spat their water on the ground!)
Come to think of it even going back to playing days last century I never much liked players spitting on the ground continually and the thought of having to roll about in it during the next tackle or scrum. Some blokes were serial spitters.
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@Nepia said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan Damn NZ has just gone Fuck Off, without even the we're full.
I don't often agree with Cindy. But that is a strong decision, we have 6 cases and we aren't going to let the fox into the henhouse
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so will there be monitoring of people arriving, or just telling people to self-isolate and trusting they will?
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@taniwharugby said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
so will there be monitoring of people arriving, or just telling people to self-isolate and trusting they will?
That is a good question. If people can't even be trusted not to bring fruit into the country can we trust them on this? Better get more cots up at Whenuapai... didn't the government buy a hotel for this purpose?
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@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
That is a strong position
Does that mean the Bulls will be told not to travel? Do the Hurricanes forfeit that game?
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@antipodean said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
@canefan said in Coronavirus: should I be panicking yet?:
That is a strong position
Does that mean the Bulls will be told not to travel? Do the Hurricanes forfeit that game?
I expect that this will be the last round of super rugby for a while